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Tony obviously cannot keep track of which lies he's told
This is from the transcript of today's call. I pulled out the relevant stuff for myself and you
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DC: Many exchanges are occurring in accordance with the directive to crank it up last week, and that is being supported by all the banks and institutions.
Tony: We know the payouts have been from 50 cents to over $20, high 20s, and people are getting paid out at those rates with access to their funds. That’s the good thing, that we are getting all this information. WE know what is really happening in different banks. We got a call from one member on TNT; a relative of his picked up his dong day before yesterday (for $300) and was immediately offered an exchange -- $379K for his five million dong.
That's a pretty big spread. I guess what you are saying is that the contract rate is north of $20.
And that's BIG news about the Dong. It's being exchanged too! (should be a great day for you Dong holders too)
Tony: There is a plan in motion (in Iraq) for the next couple of days, and there is also a plan to complete the “internet group” by Thanksgiving.
You really expect me to believe that the nation of Iraq gives a whatever about our American Day of Thanksgiving? Or is this another 'slick' ploy to buy yourself some more time?
DC: Tony started this up because he felt people were being taken advantage of and being given bad intel. I listened and wanted to help out.
DC goes off the reservation and goes BACK to volunteering to join the call. The last we heard was that a government agency sent DC to watch Tony and make sure he didn't say anything that the government didn't want said.
Make up your mind or lie and stick with it!
DC: As of October 31, it did revalue, it just hasn’t been revealed to the public yet.
I keep talking about it. The RV happened. DC says so! And people are exchanging. Just not you.
Tony: They will exchange you at a certain rate, let’s say it’s $3.58. However, your wealth manager might say, “If you leave 20% in the bank for a year, I’ll give you $3.78, or $4.08.”
Oooookaaaay. Now we get down to the contract rate. You are contracting with the bank to put a certain amount of money in their institution for a certain amount of time and they are giving you a benefit for you committing to the transaction. Makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that Tony said that people were getting contract rates of high $20s. And here he is showing a measly .20 or .50 bump for committing.
How do you get the high contract rates Tony? From what you said in this same call, people are getting a $25 per dinar bump instead of .10 cents for contracting to keep money at that bank. Mind telling me what I need to do to get this?
(In my world, the best you could hope for would be them waiving the exchange fee. That makes sense)
Tony: They have already issued the lower denominations and the fils, and the people know it.
Oh my! This is troubling. There is new currency out on the streets that supercedes the currency I have in my safe? Won't there come a time when I have to change my money to the current dinars or risk losing all I have invested? How come the Dinar dealers haven't gotten the new denominations or announced that they will exchange the bills I have for the new bills? When is the deadline to get my money changed?
It’s on the television, radio and the mosques, and it’s getting old. The Iraqi people are frustrated and ready to go on the streets.
If the new denominations are on TV then point me to a channel that's running that news. The two live news channels from Iraq that I monitor haven't had any pictures of new denominations or exchanging of old dinar for new or even showing merchants marking things to conform to the dinar minus three 0s.
Tony: Thousands of people exchanged yesterday, at different rates, and that means they are getting closer to DinarLand and then the public release. They brought in exchange people, bankers and security, scheduling them for later this week and this weekend, so we’ll see what happens.
Hey. If they are exchanging, why haven't I? They have exchanged over 20% of the dinar holders according to your figures. Why haven't they got to me yet?
It is NOT going to be a superfantastic day today – that much everyone has told us – but that doesn’t mean tomorrow won’t be. It might be a super-fantastic weekend, though.
Okay. We agree that there won't be an RV today. That's progress. But you seem to say that it might be in the next 4 days. I assume that you would be surprised if we have another call on Friday. (You usually are surprised that we have another call. Every time you have a call. What are you, a goldfish?)
Iraqi television is running the same things in term of ‘reform is occurring’, the finance ministers are on, CBI is waiting for the timing to be right… the same things they have been running for the last week. The frustration is there in Iraq On television they are announcing all the relevant meetings today with public acknowledgments – they wanted to do something today in public.
No. Iraqi TV news is not running anything even close to resembling anything you just said that I can see or discern.
And for the closing whopper!
Tony: Yes, we are the people. The only people I really care about are those who are listening to this call, who have tracked this for four years, who are paying attention. The other 4.5 million who are not paying attention, I don’t’ care if they get the international rate.
Ok. So you say that 5 million people have dinar. Then you go on to say that only 500,000 people pay any attention to the boards and such. And from your tone, you seem to expect the 4.5 million to be stuck with the sucker rate.
Now with all these exchanges that have been going on, there have been over 700,000 people cashed out and that number climbs each day. Does that mean only the people who don't pay attention are getting paid?
I am confused by your numbers.
(and hey. I managed to differentiate my commentary from the stuff I posted from another place without using all Caps. That means I wasn't yelling or exaggerating the importance of what I was saying. I was actually polite and effective without being rude. Go figure)
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DC: Many exchanges are occurring in accordance with the directive to crank it up last week, and that is being supported by all the banks and institutions.
Tony: We know the payouts have been from 50 cents to over $20, high 20s, and people are getting paid out at those rates with access to their funds. That’s the good thing, that we are getting all this information. WE know what is really happening in different banks. We got a call from one member on TNT; a relative of his picked up his dong day before yesterday (for $300) and was immediately offered an exchange -- $379K for his five million dong.
That's a pretty big spread. I guess what you are saying is that the contract rate is north of $20.
And that's BIG news about the Dong. It's being exchanged too! (should be a great day for you Dong holders too)
Tony: There is a plan in motion (in Iraq) for the next couple of days, and there is also a plan to complete the “internet group” by Thanksgiving.
You really expect me to believe that the nation of Iraq gives a whatever about our American Day of Thanksgiving? Or is this another 'slick' ploy to buy yourself some more time?
DC: Tony started this up because he felt people were being taken advantage of and being given bad intel. I listened and wanted to help out.
DC goes off the reservation and goes BACK to volunteering to join the call. The last we heard was that a government agency sent DC to watch Tony and make sure he didn't say anything that the government didn't want said.
Make up your mind or lie and stick with it!
DC: As of October 31, it did revalue, it just hasn’t been revealed to the public yet.
I keep talking about it. The RV happened. DC says so! And people are exchanging. Just not you.
Tony: They will exchange you at a certain rate, let’s say it’s $3.58. However, your wealth manager might say, “If you leave 20% in the bank for a year, I’ll give you $3.78, or $4.08.”
Oooookaaaay. Now we get down to the contract rate. You are contracting with the bank to put a certain amount of money in their institution for a certain amount of time and they are giving you a benefit for you committing to the transaction. Makes sense. What doesn't make sense is that Tony said that people were getting contract rates of high $20s. And here he is showing a measly .20 or .50 bump for committing.
How do you get the high contract rates Tony? From what you said in this same call, people are getting a $25 per dinar bump instead of .10 cents for contracting to keep money at that bank. Mind telling me what I need to do to get this?
(In my world, the best you could hope for would be them waiving the exchange fee. That makes sense)
Tony: They have already issued the lower denominations and the fils, and the people know it.
Oh my! This is troubling. There is new currency out on the streets that supercedes the currency I have in my safe? Won't there come a time when I have to change my money to the current dinars or risk losing all I have invested? How come the Dinar dealers haven't gotten the new denominations or announced that they will exchange the bills I have for the new bills? When is the deadline to get my money changed?
It’s on the television, radio and the mosques, and it’s getting old. The Iraqi people are frustrated and ready to go on the streets.
If the new denominations are on TV then point me to a channel that's running that news. The two live news channels from Iraq that I monitor haven't had any pictures of new denominations or exchanging of old dinar for new or even showing merchants marking things to conform to the dinar minus three 0s.
Tony: Thousands of people exchanged yesterday, at different rates, and that means they are getting closer to DinarLand and then the public release. They brought in exchange people, bankers and security, scheduling them for later this week and this weekend, so we’ll see what happens.
Hey. If they are exchanging, why haven't I? They have exchanged over 20% of the dinar holders according to your figures. Why haven't they got to me yet?
It is NOT going to be a superfantastic day today – that much everyone has told us – but that doesn’t mean tomorrow won’t be. It might be a super-fantastic weekend, though.
Okay. We agree that there won't be an RV today. That's progress. But you seem to say that it might be in the next 4 days. I assume that you would be surprised if we have another call on Friday. (You usually are surprised that we have another call. Every time you have a call. What are you, a goldfish?)
Iraqi television is running the same things in term of ‘reform is occurring’, the finance ministers are on, CBI is waiting for the timing to be right… the same things they have been running for the last week. The frustration is there in Iraq On television they are announcing all the relevant meetings today with public acknowledgments – they wanted to do something today in public.
No. Iraqi TV news is not running anything even close to resembling anything you just said that I can see or discern.
And for the closing whopper!
Tony: Yes, we are the people. The only people I really care about are those who are listening to this call, who have tracked this for four years, who are paying attention. The other 4.5 million who are not paying attention, I don’t’ care if they get the international rate.
Ok. So you say that 5 million people have dinar. Then you go on to say that only 500,000 people pay any attention to the boards and such. And from your tone, you seem to expect the 4.5 million to be stuck with the sucker rate.
Now with all these exchanges that have been going on, there have been over 700,000 people cashed out and that number climbs each day. Does that mean only the people who don't pay attention are getting paid?
I am confused by your numbers.
(and hey. I managed to differentiate my commentary from the stuff I posted from another place without using all Caps. That means I wasn't yelling or exaggerating the importance of what I was saying. I was actually polite and effective without being rude. Go figure)
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5 million dinar "investors". Even if they only have an average of 2 million dinar apiece, that's 10 trillion dinar.
At even a ten cent rate that's a trillion dollars. Where's the trillion dollars come from?
At 1 to 1 it's 10 trillion dollars. Where's it come from?
At 3.50 it's 35 trillion dollars. Where's it come from?
At even a ten cent rate that's a trillion dollars. Where's the trillion dollars come from?
At 1 to 1 it's 10 trillion dollars. Where's it come from?
At 3.50 it's 35 trillion dollars. Where's it come from?
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