TNT TONY says can't tell us why it didn't happen like he said it would
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TNT TONY says can't tell us why it didn't happen like he said it would
5-29-2014 Intel Guru TNT Tony
Its a great day in Dinarland. I can't tell you why it did not happen but everything good right now. The DFI has been released and if that has been released then you should know what's really going on without going into any depth with it...it's a great reason for us to be excited.
There was a little bit of turmoil yesterday, one hell of a roller coaster ride in the last 24 hours but right now we are smooth sailing. Their goal was to try to get to the 1st of June. We were hoping they didn't and we don't know if they are going to or not. We are just biding out time.
[Is the contract rate still a possibility?] Absolutely!
[Will there still be a walk in street rate, international rate, low and high contract rate?] That's what I heard. We are waiting for more good news...waiting for a shorter window. Let's see what happens. It's not the 1st yet. We don't expect to see the 1st.
Its a great day in Dinarland. I can't tell you why it did not happen but everything good right now. The DFI has been released and if that has been released then you should know what's really going on without going into any depth with it...it's a great reason for us to be excited.
There was a little bit of turmoil yesterday, one hell of a roller coaster ride in the last 24 hours but right now we are smooth sailing. Their goal was to try to get to the 1st of June. We were hoping they didn't and we don't know if they are going to or not. We are just biding out time.
[Is the contract rate still a possibility?] Absolutely!
[Will there still be a walk in street rate, international rate, low and high contract rate?] That's what I heard. We are waiting for more good news...waiting for a shorter window. Let's see what happens. It's not the 1st yet. We don't expect to see the 1st.
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Re: TNT TONY says can't tell us why it didn't happen like he said it would
Tony's followers are the most dumb and gullible people on the planet. These are the people that make obviously ridiculous scams like the Nigerian 419 scams possible. They will likely keep getting scammed all their lives.
Believe it or not, there's a reason scammers do this. They make their pitches so outlandish that ONLY the most gullible people respond. This saves them time from having to weed through people that aren't quite gullible enough to fall for their nonsense, and allows them to focus all their energy on extracting money from the people most likely to fall for the scam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/419_scams
"According to Cormac Herley, a researcher for Microsoft, "By sending an email that repels all but the most gullible, the scammer gets the most promising marks to self-select."
Believe it or not, there's a reason scammers do this. They make their pitches so outlandish that ONLY the most gullible people respond. This saves them time from having to weed through people that aren't quite gullible enough to fall for their nonsense, and allows them to focus all their energy on extracting money from the people most likely to fall for the scam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/419_scams
"According to Cormac Herley, a researcher for Microsoft, "By sending an email that repels all but the most gullible, the scammer gets the most promising marks to self-select."
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Re: TNT TONY says can't tell us why it didn't happen like he said it would
Agreed. To think that these lame statements make sense to ANYONE is beyond comprehension.
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Re: TNT TONY says can't tell us why it didn't happen like he said it would
It will be a great day in Dinarland when Tony goes to the slammer.
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Re: TNT TONY says can't tell us why it didn't happen like he said it would
Can anyone who follows Tony, that is reading this, please explain to me where there rings one word of truth to Tony's comments in this post?
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Re: TNT TONY says can't tell us why it didn't happen like he said it would
Check out their twitter feed #wearethepeople if you want to be simultaneously horrified and amused and depressed. People give him donations, pray for him, thank him constantly for all his hard work, etc. It's truly disgusting.
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Re: TNT TONY says can't tell us why it didn't happen like he said it would
With all the talk of Paymasters and avoiding SHORT TERM CAPITAL GAINS FOR LONG TERM I thought this might interest you.
There are RED FKLAGs to watch out for, and the most important to consider is CONTRUCTIVE RECEIPT,
For federal income tax purposes, the doctrine of constructive receipt is used to determine when a cash-basis taxpayer has received gross income.[1] A taxpayer is subject to tax in the current year if he or she has unfettered control in determining when items of income will or should be paid.[2] Unlike actual receipt, constructive receipt does not require physical possession of the item of income in question.
CASE STUDY
The United States Tax Court more concisely articulated the doctrine of constructive receipt in Davis v. Commissioner.[4] The court stated that for income to be constructively received, the funds must be made available to the taxpayer without substantial limitations.[5] At issue was whether or not a taxpayer faced such substantial limitations when a check was available to her at the post office on the last day of the tax year after the mail carrier attempted to deliver the certified letter containing it to her home earlier the same day. The taxpayer was not at home when the first delivery attempt was made and the carrier left a note that the letter would be at the post office for her. The taxpayer retrieved the check from the post office several days later, just after the new tax year began. Courts had previously held that when a taxpayer makes a decision to be unavailable to take delivery of a check, then he will not satisfy the substantial limitations requirement and he will be deemed to have had constructive receipt at the time of attempted delivery. However in this case, the court noted that the check sender specifically informed the taxpayer on a prior occasion that the check would be arriving approximately two months later than it actually did. The taxpayer had no notice to expect that the check would be delivered; therefore she could not have made a decision to be unavailable to take receipt.[6] The court held that this lack of notice, under the circumstances, meant that she faced substantial limitations on the availability of the funds and that they were not constructively received during the first tax year.[7]
CONCLUTION
If you have control over your money, and you can be paid your money upon your request, it qualifies as CONSTRUCTIVE RECEIPT. Be very careful of who and how a PAYMASTER arrangement is set up. You might get the big surprise that you did not escape SHORT TERM CAPITAL GAINS RATES. Remember you requested and agreed to this arrangement, and unless you have ZERO control over your money you will not succeed in your plan. Just an FYI
There are RED FKLAGs to watch out for, and the most important to consider is CONTRUCTIVE RECEIPT,
For federal income tax purposes, the doctrine of constructive receipt is used to determine when a cash-basis taxpayer has received gross income.[1] A taxpayer is subject to tax in the current year if he or she has unfettered control in determining when items of income will or should be paid.[2] Unlike actual receipt, constructive receipt does not require physical possession of the item of income in question.
CASE STUDY
The United States Tax Court more concisely articulated the doctrine of constructive receipt in Davis v. Commissioner.[4] The court stated that for income to be constructively received, the funds must be made available to the taxpayer without substantial limitations.[5] At issue was whether or not a taxpayer faced such substantial limitations when a check was available to her at the post office on the last day of the tax year after the mail carrier attempted to deliver the certified letter containing it to her home earlier the same day. The taxpayer was not at home when the first delivery attempt was made and the carrier left a note that the letter would be at the post office for her. The taxpayer retrieved the check from the post office several days later, just after the new tax year began. Courts had previously held that when a taxpayer makes a decision to be unavailable to take delivery of a check, then he will not satisfy the substantial limitations requirement and he will be deemed to have had constructive receipt at the time of attempted delivery. However in this case, the court noted that the check sender specifically informed the taxpayer on a prior occasion that the check would be arriving approximately two months later than it actually did. The taxpayer had no notice to expect that the check would be delivered; therefore she could not have made a decision to be unavailable to take receipt.[6] The court held that this lack of notice, under the circumstances, meant that she faced substantial limitations on the availability of the funds and that they were not constructively received during the first tax year.[7]
CONCLUTION
If you have control over your money, and you can be paid your money upon your request, it qualifies as CONSTRUCTIVE RECEIPT. Be very careful of who and how a PAYMASTER arrangement is set up. You might get the big surprise that you did not escape SHORT TERM CAPITAL GAINS RATES. Remember you requested and agreed to this arrangement, and unless you have ZERO control over your money you will not succeed in your plan. Just an FYI
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FS4ENTHUSIAST wrote:Check out their twitter feed #wearethepeople if you want to be simultaneously horrified and amused and depressed. People give him donations, pray for him, thank him constantly for all his hard work, etc. It's truly disgusting.
Actually, every time I post one of his posts, I get sick to my stomach. I don't think I could handle a whole twitter feed of adoring fans. I do NOT get it. I can only liken it to the cult mentality.
People who are so desperate to belong to something and all the "feel good" blather makes them feel cozy and protected. The promises of better times getting them through each day.
For many, it is easier to live in a state of delusional happiness instead of facing reality and making their own way.
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Re: TNT TONY says can't tell us why it didn't happen like he said it would
Well, my post was not in regard to any specific Guru or group. However, I keep hearing about the Long Term and Short Term Capital Gains issue or avoidence of the same.
It is a BEWARE post for any or all to read and check out for themselves. I use one of the largest CPA firms in the country. Full knowing the IRS statutes and having a Red Flag go up right away, I posed the question to them. Gladly they pointed me to the information and wanted to spare me the pain and agony of a fight or litigation brought on by the Internal Revenue Service, and the costs associated with it.
In sharing the information, each person must follow the advice of their own CPA, Tax Attorney, or Financial Advisor. Just be certain you get an "Opinion Letter" from them to protect yourself. I personally am not picking either method to follow, but will follow the advise and opinion of the people who represent me in my business and personal affairs.
It is a BEWARE post for any or all to read and check out for themselves. I use one of the largest CPA firms in the country. Full knowing the IRS statutes and having a Red Flag go up right away, I posed the question to them. Gladly they pointed me to the information and wanted to spare me the pain and agony of a fight or litigation brought on by the Internal Revenue Service, and the costs associated with it.
In sharing the information, each person must follow the advice of their own CPA, Tax Attorney, or Financial Advisor. Just be certain you get an "Opinion Letter" from them to protect yourself. I personally am not picking either method to follow, but will follow the advise and opinion of the people who represent me in my business and personal affairs.
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Re: TNT TONY says can't tell us why it didn't happen like he said it would
Sorry, Yachtsman, my post was in regards to FS4's comment about the Twitter account for tony and wearethepeople. I should have quoted him so people would know what I was directing my comment to.
Are you sure you meant to comment on this Tony post? Are you looking for one of the TAX POSTS? If so, I can move the info over for you. Or, maybe we can make a seperate post for your informative info that you have shared.
Are you sure you meant to comment on this Tony post? Are you looking for one of the TAX POSTS? If so, I can move the info over for you. Or, maybe we can make a seperate post for your informative info that you have shared.
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Ponee, whichever you like. I just happen to put it here in hopes the most people would see it and understand it is not quite as easy as they are led to believe. Actually, I will leave this up to you. Maybe a seperate post, if you would like to move it there !
Thank you for your help. I tried last night to add to and change a post I had done. You know the long one, and when I did the ctl c thing to copy it and replace it something went wrong. Oh well, it was a long rant anyway !
Thank you for your help. I tried last night to add to and change a post I had done. You know the long one, and when I did the ctl c thing to copy it and replace it something went wrong. Oh well, it was a long rant anyway !
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Re: TNT TONY says can't tell us why it didn't happen like he said it would
OH NO!! Do you mean you LOST it all???
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Yes I did. I had more to add and blew it. So, Now I will re write it with the changes. If I can only get back to the frame of mind of when I was writing then I will do it tonight. 

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There is a thread over at TNT thanking Tony & the mods for all they do. Here are a few of the comments by the faithful (cult members). CAUTION: Read at your own risk. Could cause upset stomach, loss of appetite. nausea and general amazement at how gullible people can be.Ponee wrote:FS4ENTHUSIAST wrote:Check out their twitter feed #wearethepeople if you want to be simultaneously horrified and amused and depressed. People give him donations, pray for him, thank him constantly for all his hard work, etc. It's truly disgusting.
Actually, every time I post one of his posts, I get sick to my stomach. I don't think I could handle a whole twitter feed of adoring fans. I do NOT get it. I can only liken it to the cult mentality.
People who are so desperate to belong to something and all the "feel good" blather makes them feel cozy and protected. The promises of better times getting them through each day.
For many, it is easier to live in a state of delusional happiness instead of facing reality and making their own way.
***Tony, mods and all . .U R the best. I do not listen to any of the other "intel" folks. Never have . .U have my ears, all of my heart and loyalty. PLEASE let us know when our monopoly money will turn from rags to riches.
***Well said! My gratitude is immense- to all those that give of their time, expertise and energy to this project!!! You are all highly responsible for making the world a better place- now and forever more. The potential of change that will take place on this earth, because you have given so selflessly- is immeasurable! THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU- FOR ALL THAT YOU ALL DO!! I LOOK FORWARD TO PAYING IT FORWARD!

***It's always good to hear Tony's voice. I find it soothing and he makes sense with what he says. I feel like he keeps me on track and I can be more patient after knowing what is going on. Knowing that it takes a team to keep all the wheels spinning, I say a big "Thank You" again to Tony and the entire TNT team. God Bless you all.
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