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POST RV THOUGHT

My observation of most of the people participating in the dinar blessing is that they are very conservative and God fearing.
Therefore most of us agree that our Country is in dire straits.
Admittedly, the same God that established this great country is the only power that can restore it to His design. We are not without responsibility to keep "The Republic" that we are given.
Those people who are endeavoring to destroy this Republic are well organized and funded.
My thought: I hope that somehow we who are so financially blessed can somehow organize at State levels to form PACS to support the campaign of those that have the right desire to serve us and keep this Constitutional Republic. They would be free of the entanglement with lobbyists, party elites, and any organization whose intent is to serve very selfish reasons.
These several state PACS would work together but never become a single national PAC.
LETS BRAINSTORM.

texson wrote:
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POST RV THOUGHT

My observation of most of the people participating in the dinar blessing is that they are very conservative and God fearing.
Therefore most of us agree that our Country is in dire straits.
Admittedly, the same God that established this great country is the only power that can restore it to His design. We are not without responsibility to keep "The Republic" that we are given.
Those people who are endeavoring to destroy this Republic are well organized and funded.
My thought: I hope that somehow we who are so financially blessed can somehow organize at State levels to form PACS to support the campaign of those that have the right desire to serve us and keep this Constitutional Republic. They would be free of the entanglement with lobbyists, party elites, and any organization whose intent is to serve very selfish reasons.
These several state PACS would work together but never become a single national PAC.
LETS BRAINSTORM.

LOve the idea. How do you start a PAC?

texson wrote:
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POST RV THOUGHT

My observation of most of the people participating in the dinar blessing is that they are very conservative and God fearing.
Therefore most of us agree that our Country is in dire straits.
Admittedly, the same God that established this great country is the only power that can restore it to His design. We are not without responsibility to keep "The Republic" that we are given.
Those people who are endeavoring to destroy this Republic are well organized and funded.
My thought: I hope that somehow we who are so financially blessed can somehow organize at State levels to form PACS to support the campaign of those that have the right desire to serve us and keep this Constitutional Republic. They would be free of the entanglement with lobbyists, party elites, and any organization whose intent is to serve very selfish reasons.
These several state PACS would work together but never become a single national PAC.
LETS BRAINSTORM.

LOve the idea. How do you start a PAC?

I really don't know how to start a PAC, but it can't be difficult.
Just need a few people to get it started with some funding and those
people need to be on the same page as far as "what kind of candidate
do we want to support".
Obviously, I am in Texas so I would be interested in meeting with fellow Texans.

Tampadinar~I disagree. MANY on these chats have very selfLESS plans for their money. There are a few threads that have gone around where people list the top 5 or 10 things they will do with the $$$ and "living high on the hog" is not there...in fact what small fun things they wanted/needed were at the very bottom of the list. Look up this one I started (there are more than just mine out there)-not sure where I posted it! It is called "What are your top 3-5 things you will do with the $ post RV???" Here is just one of the replies from Aug. 2nd (I think!) : Buy or build a transitional living facility called "Through Our Children's Lives" in O.P. Kansas that has the ability to house at least 12 women and their children for up to one year while they become stable, after having been abused....Church....pay off children's homes...set up educational funds for grandchildren....and if any left...go to get a MASSAGE, relax and Not think, live, breathe dinar......

texson wrote:
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POST RV THOUGHT

My observation of most of the people participating in the dinar blessing is that they are very conservative and God fearing.
Therefore most of us agree that our Country is in dire straits.
Admittedly, the same God that established this great country is the only power that can restore it to His design. We are not without responsibility to keep "The Republic" that we are given.
Those people who are endeavoring to destroy this Republic are well organized and funded.
My thought: I hope that somehow we who are so financially blessed can somehow organize at State levels to form PACS to support the campaign of those that have the right desire to serve us and keep this Constitutional Republic. They would be free of the entanglement with lobbyists, party elites, and any organization whose intent is to serve very selfish reasons.
These several state PACS would work together but never become a single national PAC.
LETS BRAINSTORM.

I DO AGREE,VERY WELL SAID. THANK YOU TEXSON! {ANGUSTURA

thanks AUGUSTURA,
I also live in Central Texas.
This site forum will be a good place to link up with
everyone who shares this conviction and interest
after RV.
I could name several good conservative candidates in various
states that could have used some financial help during the last
election. They did not meet the criteria of the RNC elite, so they
did not get any or very much campaign help.
David Simpson, during the last Texas Session, courageously stood
before the Texas House and clearly indicted the manipulation of House
Speaker, Lt. Governor, and Governor to avoid bills that Texas really needed
to pass.
I promise you that he will be a target during the next election.
He will need to know that the people of Texas will support his campaign before he will even consider running again.

Texson:
You know how to start a PAC, you just did. Now, you need to get people in all 50 states to join in the IDEA and form the cooperative thinking "network." In order to oust a President you need electoral votes - not popular votes. If you get the popular votes for the other candidates (in the right precincts) the Presidential trophy will follow.
I am in Alaska (don't laugh because we only have 1 electoral vote) and there are many like thinking people who would contribute both money and time if there was evidence of a "national movement." You don't have to be a millionaire to belong - sometimes time and resource are worth more than cash. What you DO NEED is viable candidates that not only talk the talk, but WALK THE TALK.
Another thing, Rome wasn't built in a day - neither is a well though out, intense, high spirited PAC. Patience eventually wins out. We dinarians qualify for that part, for sure. I'll help, but you need at least 3 good solid participants in each populated area to get this started.
God bless America and Keep Her Safe, Sovereign and Secure.

Catherine, I am in agreement with you. Thinking of the 10% to give to Charities. I sponsored a child for a long long time even when I was financially bankrupt and in tremendous stress and crisis when my marriage ended. I want to go to meet my child, help their village, go to Costa Rica where there are girls that end up on the street after they reach a certain age...the elderly, animalls...there is sooo much crying out there. I do not want mansions or expensive cars..a Kia will do me just fine..in fact..to me it is better than a Ferrari or a Bentley.

:cheers:

TEXSON AND ANGUSTURA, HOW DO WE MAKE CONTACT?? I AM IN OKLA, AND I WANT TO BAND TOGETHER WITH PEOPLE OF LIKE CONCERNS.. IF WE GIVE TO THE TEA PARTIES IN THE STATES WHERE THE SENATORS ARE UP FOR ELECTION, IT WOULD HAVE A GREAT IMPACT.. IF WE GIVE DINARS, WE NEED TO KNOW IF GIVING TO A 501 C4 NON-PROFIT WOULD BE TAX FREE TO THEM.. IF AN ATTORNEY KNOWS THIS, PLEASE POST..
THANKS,
BURNS

Hi there I agree to start a PAC I'm in Washington and have been trying to get rid of the Governor that had to have 3 counts for the votes (everytime her numbers became higher) and the Senator who helped write Obamacare, let me know how to get in touch, thank you

Catherine wrote:Tampadinar~I disagree. MANY on these chats have very selfLESS plans for their money. There are a few threads that have gone around where people list the top 5 or 10 things they will do with the $$$ and "living high on the hog" is not there...in fact what small fun things they wanted/needed were at the very bottom of the list. Look up this one I started (there are more than just mine out there)-not sure where I posted it! It is called "What are your top 3-5 things you will do with the $ post RV???" Here is just one of the replies from Aug. 2nd (I think!) : Buy or build a transitional living facility called "Through Our Children's Lives" in O.P. Kansas that has the ability to house at least 12 women and their children for up to one year while they become stable, after having been abused....Church....pay off children's homes...set up educational funds for grandchildren....and if any left...go to get a MASSAGE, relax and Not think, live, breathe dinar......

AGREED!

I too am interested.

Angustura wrote:

texson wrote:
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POST RV THOUGHT

My observation of most of the people participating in the dinar blessing is that they are very conservative and God fearing.
Therefore most of us agree that our Country is in dire straits.
Admittedly, the same God that established this great country is the only power that can restore it to His design. We are not without responsibility to keep "The Republic" that we are given.
Those people who are endeavoring to destroy this Republic are well organized and funded.
My thought: I hope that somehow we who are so financially blessed can somehow organize at State levels to form PACS to support the campaign of those that have the right desire to serve us and keep this Constitutional Republic. They would be free of the entanglement with lobbyists, party elites, and any organization whose intent is to serve very selfish reasons.
These several state PACS would work together but never become a single national PAC.
LETS BRAINSTORM.

I DO AGREE,VERY WELL SAID. THANK YOU TEXSON! {ANGUSTURA

I would like to participate.

TEXSON AND ANGUSTURA AND OTHER INTERESTED DINARIANS:
THE DEMOCRATS HAVE 25 SEATS THAT UP FOR RE-ELECTION AND 2 INDEPENDENTS THAT CAUCAS WITH THEM. THOSE 25 SENATE SEATS WOULD RENDER THE DEMOCRATS HELPLESS.. THE TEA PARTY HAS A 501 C4 NOT FOR PROFIT VEHICLE, THAT SHOULD MAKE DINAR CONTRIBUTIONS TAX FREE FOR THEM, AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY THE TAX TO CASH IT FOR THEM.. A SERIOUS CONTRIBUTION TO EACH STATE TEA PARTY SHOULD HELP DETERMINE AND SUPPORT THE STRONGEST CHALLANGER FOR THE RACES..
WE DON'T HAVE TO WIN ALL 25 SEATS, A SUPER MAJORITY WILL DO FINE,,

BURNS

BURNS wrote:TEXSON AND ANGUSTURA AND OTHER INTERESTED DINARIANS:
THE DEMOCRATS HAVE 25 SEATS THAT UP FOR RE-ELECTION AND 2 INDEPENDENTS THAT CAUCAS WITH THEM. THOSE 25 SENATE SEATS WOULD RENDER THE DEMOCRATS HELPLESS.. THE TEA PARTY HAS A 501 C4 NOT FOR PROFIT VEHICLE, THAT SHOULD MAKE DINAR CONTRIBUTIONS TAX FREE FOR THEM, AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY THE TAX TO CASH IT FOR THEM.. A SERIOUS CONTRIBUTION TO EACH STATE TEA PARTY SHOULD HELP DETERMINE AND SUPPORT THE STRONGEST CHALLANGER FOR THE RACES..
WE DON'T HAVE TO WIN ALL 25 SEATS, A SUPER MAJORITY WILL DO FINE,,

BURNS

awesome

TEXSON, ET. All

A few more thoughts on your insightful post (please see comments in parenthesis):
My observation of most of the people participating in this possible financial blessing is that they are very conservative and God fearing. (Unfortunately, we still have to reckon with the American voters who thrive best in the socialist political environment that is getting above us. And even most of those who fancy themselves conservative are more socialist than they realize. I find that most so-called conservatives that I encounter, including devout Christians, still espouse certain socialist programs, and hopefully in ignorance, support candidates for elected offices who have strong socialist leanings. Do any of the candidates for US President support such things as open borders , and other unconstitutional legislation and programs].

Therefore most of us agree that our Country is in dire straits. [I call it an "awful situation". A certain element of the American population was warned about this eventuality if they did not awake to it and become familiar with the US Constitution and uphold and abide by it. Even most of those so informed ignored those warnings].

Admittedly, the same God that established this great country is the only power that can restore it to His design. We are not without responsibility to keep "The Republic" that we are given. [That same God that established this once great country by the hands of wise men whom He raised up unto that very purpose also provided, thru many of those wise men, a blueprint of the government He intended Americans to be governed by. Among the warnings that "certain element of the American population" was given was some pretty clear instructions about studying, defending, upholding and abiding by the U.S. Constitution, sometimes including some pretty dire threats if they did not do so].

Those people who are endeavoring to destroy this Republic are well organized and funded. [Yes, that above mentioned "certain element of the American population" was well advised that certain other elements in our country and elsewhere would in our days be anxiously engaged in overthrowing not only our freedoms, but those of other nations as well. But instead of awakening to our "awful situation" and doing all possible to oppose it, they ignored it and even ridiculed many of those who tried to warn about its conspirators seeking power, gain and glory at the expense of the liberty and wealth of the rest of us. Even today, to try to discuss our "awful situation" and its causes is to invite derision].

My thought: I hope that somehow we who are so financially blessed can somehow organize at State levels to form PACS to support the campaign of those that have the right desire to serve us and keep this Constitutional Republic. Like patriots of the past who pledged their honor, fortunes, and lives to saving the Republic.

They would be free of the entanglement with lobbyists, party elites, and any organization whose intent is to serve very selfish reasons. [I believe that before anyone tries to get involved in saving our constitutional republic, they need to learn in detail the kind of government God intended us to have. Another individual much better versed on this topic than I, suggested the following steps: (1.) be righteous ourselves; (2.) "learn the principles of the Constitution in the tradition of the Founding Fathers...", teach these principles to others, and learn to recognize when a law or program is constitutionally unsound; (3.) "become involved in civic affairs to see that we are properly represented"; and (4.) become accurately informed and make our influence felt by our letters, advice, teaching, and votes. Until then, as one of our Arizona State Senators recently said, “our actions and votes might well just make things worse”].

These several state PACS would work together but never become a single national PAC.
LETS BRAINSTORM. [Let the discussions continue in an attitude of humility and prayer!]. :cheers:

Looks like we have AK, AZ, OK, TX, WA, so far. 45 more states to go! We need to spread the word. [almost typed 47, thinking 52 states! "did I do that?"]. :cheers:

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR THOUGHTS.. THEY ARE RIGHT ON AND SHOULD BE FINE FOR EVERYONE..
I DON'T WANT ANY SPECIAL FAVORS FROM MY GOVERNMENT.. JUST START BY PROTECTING OUR COUNTRY AND SUPPORT OUR MILITARY.. CLOSE AND PROTECT OUR BORDERS, THIS IS A MINIMUM OBLIGATION ACCORDING TO OUR CONSTITUTION.. WITH A MAJORITY IN THE SENATE, THEY CAN PROCEDE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, AND START BY REDUCING THE BASELINE BUDGET GROWTH TO ZERO OR 1% PER YEAR (FROM 7% NOW).. THE CUT, CAP AND BALANCE BILL HAS ALREADY PASSED THE HOUSE, SO WE JUST NEED TO BRING IT TO A VOTE IN THE SENATE.. THE LIBERALS WILL SCREAM AND THE PRESS WILL SCREAM, BUT WE HAVE NEVER HAD A VOICE READY AND WILLING LIKE THE TEA PARTIES.. AS NEAR AS I CAN TELL, THEY ONLY WANT LESS GOVERNMENT, REPONSIBLE GOVT, AND SUPPORT FOR FREE ENTERPRIZE AND CAPITALISM, SO OUR COUNTRY CAN REGAIN OUR MOMENTUM. THE UNIONS WILL BE OUR ENEMIES, ALSO, SO THERE ARE SOME GOOD PEOPLE THAT WILL HAVE TO LOOK DEEP AT THEIR CHARACTER TO SEE IF THEIR COUNTRY AND CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDEN ARE MORE VALUABLE THAN THE UNION STRANGLE HOLD ON THEIR JOBS.. THE DEMOCRATS PUSH THRU THE SWEET DEALS FOR THE UNIONS, AND THE UNIONS BOSSES RETURN THE FUNDS FROM DUES BACK TO DEMOCRAT DONATIONS.. FAIR TAX WOULD HELP BREAK UP THE CHOKING INCOME TAX, THAT THEY USE TO FUND THEIR REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH PROGRAMS AROUND THE WORLD.. I WILL TRY TO DETERMINE WHICH ARE THE 25 STATES THAT HAVE SENATE SEATS UP FOR ELECTION..

BURNS

YES, LET THE DISCUSSIONS CONTINUE IN AN ATTITUDE OF HUMILITY AND PRAYER!!!

BURNS

PERRIN, TEXSON, ANGUSTURA, AZHOMBRE AND OTHER DINARIANS,,

HERE ARE THE DEMOCRATS UP FOR RE-ELECTION:::
DAVID AKAKA--HAWAII
JEFF BINGAMAN--NEW MEXICO
SHERROD BROWN--OHIO
JOE MANCHIN-- WEST VIRGINIA
MARIA CANTWELL--WASHINGTON
BENJIMIN CARDIN--MARYLAND
THOMAS CARPER--DELAWARE
ROBERT CASEY--PENN
KENT CONRAD--NO DAKOTA
DIANNE FEINSTIEN--CALIF
KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND--NEW YORK
AMY KLOLINCHIN--MINN
HERB KOHL--WISC
CLAIRE MCCASKILL--MISSOURI
ROBERT MENENDEZ--NEW JERSEY
BEN NELSON--NEBRASKA
DEBBIE STABENOW--MICHIGAN
JON TESTER--MONTANA
BILL NELSON--FLORDIA
JIM WEBB--VIRGINIA
SHELDON WHITE--RHODE ISLAND

INDEPENDENTS:
JOE LIEBERMAN--CONN
BERNARD SANDERS--SOCIALIST ??

THERE ARE 10 REPUBLICANS UP FOR RE-ELECTION;

THE RINO REPUBLICANS SHOULD BE EXAMINED!!

THANKS,
BURNS

Michael Edward here.

I have recently been banned from The Chat Room for my mentioning the following.

Firstly, I do not apologize for my unflinching love of America and 'Providence' who brought her into being.

I do, however, apologize to those who have singled me out for posting what others post in similar material.

I received two 'hate' PM's for what I do, both calling me a PAYtriot for Profit. However, when asked if they had First Hand Knowledge for this accusation, they were mute.

I do operate a 'for profit' web site where we sell the Products and Services of about 30 Information Providers.

We net a 100% success rate on Credit Card Law Suits; an 85% national average win rate on all non-property damage traffic tickets; we've kept over 500 people in their homes against home foreclosure and have great success in mitigating the amounts of fines and penalties by the IRS. And for this we charge fees.

The profits have always gone to offset the expense of AmericansRestoringAmerica .com .

So, here is my possible final post. If you are with me in this idea that we can take back the reins of self-government, then here is the vehicle I believe will do the job without the employment of the 2nd Amendment.


To you who have purchased the Dinar I want to share with you my opinion that we have but a small window of time remaining in which we, as Americans, can restore the Rule of Law over the Rule of Men.

You KNOW the power of numbers…..

Statewide Communications, found under AmericansWithPitchforks .com and redirected to AmericansRestoringAmerica .com, utilizes and organizes and concentrates those numbers at the grassroots level – the county – that enables and empowers the American People. WE are the Master of our creation; our government.

OUR government is OUR servant. Never forget that!

It will require your STRONG financial backing to make this happen.

It is going to take hundreds of millions of dollars to do the needed marketing to have EVERY AMERICAN aware of this most powerful tool for their use; television, radio, newspapers and most importantly the big screen – movies at your local theater.

And one more thing…….. IF we are not successful….. There will be no America for you and your legacy to enjoy this new found wealth. It will all be sucked up in that One World Order Vacuum that is roaring.
Please Forward Far and Wide

Help me Help others……

Yah Bless America – Yah SAVE America
2nd Chronicles: 7:14


Lastly, and I've posted this as a suggestion in the Chat Room, if OKIE would stand as the fiduciary in this effort, OKIE holding and accounting for the money you put into this - so there is no appearance of or ability for this to become "Michael Edward's Get Rich Quick Scheme" as my detractors will undoubted accuse, that should make all involved with this effort to feel completely comfortable KNOWING that your money is going only for its intended use.

Yours in Freedom,
Michael Edward
a.k.a. TheeScotsman

I should have expounded more on our responsibility to keep the Republic that we were given. Others have said it much more eloquently, and with more authority. Some among those who warned us of the danger of the overthrow of our freedoms by elements among us seeking power, gain, and glory also reminded us that "The Constitution was established through the inspiration of God to preserve the liberty of the people and to maintain His promise." Listen to this warning: "Unless we......do all we can to preserve the freedoms we have, within the bounds of the laws of God, we will be held accountable." I think it is safe to assume that accountablty will be to Him who gave us those freedoms to begin with. It is part of our civic duty to be moral in our conduct toward all people. There is no place in responsible citizenship for dishonesty or deceit or for willful law breaking of any kind. We believe with the author of Proverbs that “righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.” James Madison (Father of the Constitution) stated his assumption that there had to be “sufficient virtue among men for self-government.” It's obvious our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. No wonder it's been trampled on!

We have been advised to "learn the principles of the Constitution in the traditon of the Founding Fathers...", teach these princples to others, and learn to recognize when a law or program is constitutionally unsound. Among those others to whom we need to teach the principles of the Constitution in the tradition of the Founding Fathers are our children and grandchildren. I believe it will be more apt to fall on them to restore the freedoms than on us who lost them.

Several times I have apologized to my grown children and my college students I've taught over the past 22 years, saying "I'm sorry we Baby Boomers have ruined this country for you". That always leads to an interesting discussion.

With the great news of a pending IQD RV and its financial blessing, like patriots of old, who pledged their honor, fortunes, and lives to saving the Republic, we must do the same. We must unite with like minded people and support those who will "serve us and keep this Constitutional Republic". We should be familiar with our Constitution's great fundamentals: (1) the separation of powers, (2) the individual guarantees in the Bill of Rights, (3) the structure of federalism, (4) the sovereignty of the people, and (5) the principles of the rule of the law. We must support candidates who oppose any infringement of these inspired fundamentals. We must take numerous voluntary actions to preserve the principle of limited government through citizen self-reliance. I have jury duty in a couple of weeks. If I favor morality, I cannot leave the enforcement of moral laws to jurors who oppose them!

I close with a poetic prayer:
Our fathers' God, to thee, author of liberty, To thee we sing; Long may our land be bright With freedom's holy light. Protect us by they might, Great God, our King!

Your brother in the cause of freedom
AZhombre

PS, great info Burns. Wow, I finally met THEEscotsman, friend of Okie in the forums? So does that give us two more states represented so far?

....bastion to the bass capitol of the world! - and a Southron-Covenanteer to the bone. Yah Bless America! Yah SAVE America!

There's a lady I've known forever.
She's very sick. On top of that, she's being abused by those she has given everything to. Lies about her abound, and seem to come from all sides. Just breaks my heart. Seems there's nothing I can do alone. But maybe, if we join in we can lift her up. She's well over 200 years old, but way too young to die.

Her name is America... and I love her.

www.AmericansRestoringAmerica.com

Mr Edwards - TheeScotsman,

With all due respect and not to put you down whatsoever or bash your desire to help America. You are not thinking big enough and you do not understand the force to be reckoned with that the whole world is up against and you do not understand the incompetence of the American people in order to do anything about what you so desire in order to overcome it.

While the illuminati have control over the world, they are not going to give up their reign of control over our lives no matter how much money Dinarians have in their hands, they won't let loose of it for your good cause..
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Mankind has been subjected to such an extent that he cannot and will not overcome the tyranny on his own. He is not going to give up his sedated comfortable artificial life in materialism and greed living in the illusion to do it..

What you and your friends fail to understand due to that fact, is that the only way we can come out of what we are in, is by receiving outside help for benevolent intervention to get out of what we are in. That does not mean you should stop trying certainly, though once again, you do not comprehend what you are up against. It is a very grave circumstance and you are missing many critical components in your effort to do so.

There is another agenda entirely taking place that your friends are apparently unaware of. It's all good of course It's just not the restore america plan that you feel is the thing to save America to be the worlds only hope. A much larger plan is taking place in the background of your seemingly real but ordinary life in the matrxi of illusion.

Just watch, wait, listen and learn, because the world is about to transform for the better right before your sleepy eyes, without any revolutions or disasters that have been pumped into everyone's mind with the fear pornography on the mindsucker TV..

NESARA is the Divinely-inspired plan of Creation to aid in the evolvement of humanity It is simply a means for a transition, a temporary structure to help bring mankind forward, instead of backwards and it was brought about by wealthy visionaries a long time ago to help the world out of the ditch of death, disease and destruction. Any other pursuits of plans or ill-begotten ideas which are not in your best interests are indeed a waste of valuable time, of which there is none left.

If you are continuing to be obstinate and still trying to bring into manifestation an ill-devised program, which is only a facsimile of the true NESARA, then in the end you will be hugely disappointed.

The NESARA goals shall be realized over an extended period of time. Much re-aligning of governments on ALL levels in all countries must take place. Although it will take third world countries a little longer to regroup and become accustomed to a balanced society, that too shall occur. The world is about to get better and not the other way around in spite of what you think you might know.

New generations in those poverty-stricken cultures shall begin life with great promise. People will actually strive to learn more about their counterparts in their own country as well as in others. Without the innate understanding brought into a conscious understanding, all would be lost.

People of all races must lay down their old hatreds and misunderstandings of one another. Those who do not, shall not remain here long. Justice must be for all, or it will be for none. Ancient secrets of the progenitors of religions will come to light. People will learn that religion was but a poisoned placebo.

ALL governments will become compliant or will be changed. The universal 'Law of the One' is not political or religious, but it recognizes that all life comes from the Source of All That IS, and has an equal or equivalent divine plan. We all are equal parts of that plan. No country and no being will be forgotten or shorted in all the coming moments that are now upon our doorstep.

The legal means to take us through this was set in place in 1999 by the ICJ at which time St Germain and the King of Swords, head of the worldwide militia of 4,000,000 men + 40,000 Galactic-humans, were given the power to prosecute and take such actions as are required to remove the corrupt ones and to insure that the whole planet is prepared in time for upshift into the 5th Dimension, in the short time left in this cycle.

Money is not used as a means of exchange in the 5th dimension because there is none, it is simply your appreciation that is used for energy exchange. Right now not many have it to give and that is what is about to be taught so you can learn it. Otherwise, you don't get the eticket to ride the ascension train to 5d when the superwave arrives, it's just that simple.

AZHOMBRE, TEXSON, AUGUSTURA, PERRIN, AND OTHER INTERESTED DINARIANS,
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THOSE TIMELY AND APPROPRIATE WORDS ABOUT OUR CONSTITUTION.. I HOPE WE AGREE TO TARGET THE DEMOCRATS FIRST AND RINO REPUBLICANS 2ND.. THERE IS NOT TIME FOR THE GOOD CONSERVATIVE DEMOCRATS TO BE CODDLED NOR PACIFIED.. IF THEY SUPPORTED OBAMA OR DO SUPPORT THE PROGRESSIVE CAUSE NOW---THEY MUST BE HELD RESPONSIBLE.. RECENTLY, POPPY HAD SOME GREAT THOUGHTS ABOUT INCUMBENTS--IF WE VOTED FOR INCUMBENTS, HE WOULD WHIP US UNTIL WE BLED..THAT IS VERY SERIOUS, BUT VERY APPROPRIATE.. I HOPE AND PRAY FOR HIS QUICK RECOVERY.. I WILL LIST THE 10 REPUBLICAN SENATORS THAT ARE RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION IN 2012, SHORTLY.. WE MUST EXAMINE THE RINO REPUBS IN THE GROUP.. NO MORE TIME FOR CAREER POLITICANS.. THEY CAUSED THIS OUTRAGE, OR ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN ON THEIR WATCH..

BURNS

keep us posted VERY interested in this...Go RV!

Then I would suggest all of us DO something about it-Don't just sit back and take it- We have to get off our butts and get rid of the pimple that's infecting the people and the scum that curtails anyone oranything that has dragged this country to it's knees.

COUNT IN OHIO....ME....BUT MOVING TO TEXAS AFTER THE RV....I HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION IN CHAT AND THE RESPONSE IS AMAZING....IF NOT US - WHO....AND IF NOT NOW....WHEN? WE HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBIITY AND MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN....IT WILL NOT CHANGE WITH JUST TALK - BUT WE HAVE A GREAT BASE HERE TO WORK WITH AND PEOPLE WHO WILL CONTRIBUTE AFTER THE RV. THE PACS YOU SPEAK OF WOULD WORK WONDERS......KEEP ME IN THE LOOP......AND LOOK OUT TEXAS - HERE I COME!!!!! :queen:

PATROITIC DINARIANS,

THESE ARE THE 10 REPUBLICANS THAT ARE UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN THE SENATE FOR 2012..
SCOTT BROWN--MASS HE REPLACED EDWARD KENNEDY
JOHN BARRASSO--WYOMING
BOB CORKER-- TENN
JOHN ENSIGN-- NEVADA
ORIN HATCH-- UTAH
KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON-- TEX
JOHN KYL-- ARIZ
RICHARD LUGAR--INDIANA
OLYMPIA SNOWE-- MAINE
ROGER WICKER--MISSISSIPPI

WE SHOULD CAREFULLY EXAMINE THESE INCUMBENTS, AND TRY TO FIND SOME REASON TO GIVE THEM ANY SUPPORT!! BUT, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE MAJORITY.. PLEASE REMEMBER, THE DEMOCRATS STOLE OUR MONEY FROM SOCIAL SECURITY AND USED IT IN THE GREAT SOCIETY TO BUY VOTES.. THEY THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE THEIR WINNING ACE IN THE HOLE FOREVER.. THE REBULICANS PROTESTED WEAKLY AND LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.. SO THEY ARE BOTH RESPONSIBLE!!

BURNS

THANKS PENNOCH,

PLEASE REMEMBER THE TEA PARTIES HAVE A 501 C4, NOT FOR PROFIT VEHICLE IN PLACE.. IF WE GIVE THEM DINARS, IT SHOULD BE TAX FREE, AND WE WON'T HAVE TO CASH THEM IN AND PAY TAX ON THEM.. IF AN ATTORNEY WOULD REINFORCE THIS MANUVER, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.. OUR CONTACT SHOULD BE WITH THE INDIVIDUAL TEA PARTIES IN EACH STATE. THEY ARE IN PLACE AND SEEM TO HAVE NO AGENDA, EXCEPT TO RESTORE OUR CONSTITUTAL FORM OF GOVERNMENT, SUPPORT BUSINESS AND CAPITALISM, AND REDUCE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.. OUR NEXT ROUND SHOULD BE TO SUPPORT THE STATE TO REGAIN THEIR RIGHTFUL PLACE OF POWER OVER THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT.. THE 17TH AMENDMENT TOOK THE SENATORS AWAY FROM BEING APPOINTED BY THE STATE TO REPRESENT THE STATES..L
MAYBE AZHOMBRE AND TEXSON COULD COMMENT ON THIS..

BURNS

I'm very interested in this, and I have a handful of dinarians up here in SD. I know of at least 3...that's all you need per state right?

That is right, Burns. We lost our states rights somewhere along the line and it IS HIGH TIME WE GOT THEM BACK. Right too on the Social Security "looting." WE NEED TO CHAMPION THE PROSECUTION OF THOSE THAT TOOK THE MONEY. They are no different than a corporate officer(s) that did the same to the company employees retirement fund.
Also, if what I read is right about the payment back to the retirement fund being due before Labor Day Charges NEED TO BE FILED on this very soon. That would include the President and ALL members of BOTH houses. JMHO
Working on PAC to further our cause.

L4T: 3 is the starter number for each populated area. That would be like each town, city, precinct, etc. 3 because 1 person needs to have a sounding board and 3 because that allows for ideas to feed of other ideas. Besides, when you have 3 it soon becomes many as there is a diverse background pool and as the saying goes: "word of mouth spreads the truth faster and further" than any other form of communication. Now days the internet helps a bunch - but I guess that may be like word of mouth.

Also need to get the youth involved - they can put fliers under windshield wipers, staple/tape posters to areas where they gain permission to place them (kids can get permission easier than adults, sometimes).

I am very interested in this.

Looking at all of the covered demographics, we could use someone in the Northeast. And I fall in that category.

I am in New Jersey.

What is the first step?

pennoch2000 wrote:COUNT IN OHIO....ME....BUT MOVING TO TEXAS AFTER THE RV....I HAVE ASKED THIS QUESTION IN CHAT AND THE RESPONSE IS AMAZING....IF NOT US - WHO....AND IF NOT NOW....WHEN? WE HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBIITY AND MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN....IT WILL NOT CHANGE WITH JUST TALK - BUT WE HAVE A GREAT BASE HERE TO WORK WITH AND PEOPLE WHO WILL CONTRIBUTE AFTER THE RV. THE PACS YOU SPEAK OF WOULD WORK WONDERS......KEEP ME IN THE LOOP......AND LOOK OUT TEXAS - HERE I COME!!!!! :queen:

We texans will love to have YA'LL!! You will love it here!!!! We live in the Texas Panhandle. Bring somme rain when you come, ok. Lol :flower:

TOMMY SAID:
Mr Edwards - TheeScotsman,

With all due respect and not to put you down whatsoever or bash your desire to help America. You are not thinking big enough and you do not understand the force to be reckoned with that the whole world is up against and you do not understand the incompetence of the American people in order to do anything about what you so desire in order to overcome it.

MICHAEL EDWARD SAID:
Thank you for your kindness and consideration for my feelings. I'd rather you not and simply be direct when addressing me. I don't have the tenderness you show in my speech as you do and find being politically correct a distraction. Nonetheless, what I say is never a personal attack or ad hominem. It's simply me, in my opinion, 'telling it like it is'. Furthering, rarely do I every actually have my own opinion, but rely upon the wisdom of others or Wisdom herself to speak through me prepared to quote source, chapter and verse when necessary.
Let me be very clear.... I fully understand 'the force to be reckoned with that the whole world is up against'. I've read about this force as a child when I first picked up The Scriptures and actually began to read and re-read them for myself. Further, I recognize the fact that very few Americans are up to speed as to what is really at stake and how this Planned Destruction of America was ever put in place to begin with. What I do know is the wisdom of our Founders. It was The Founders who put their hopes in the future in the American People. It was Dr. Franklin who answered the woman outside of Constitution Hall to the question of what kind of government do we have that he replied "A republic.... [and then the most telling part] ....IF YOU can keep it! I trust in The Founders viewpoint. I understand from our American History that ONLY 3% of the American People were for the separation from England to begin with and that after the war there still were only 15% of the American People that gave a care as to its outcome! Which, in part, is why I believe Statewide Communications is the tool given to us that will have the response we all so desparately seek.

TOMMY SAID:
While the illuminati have control over the world, they are not going to give up their reign of control over our lives no matter how much money Dinarians have in their hands, they won't let loose of it for your good cause..

MICHAEL EDWARD SAID:
I know. "Except Those Days Be Shortened.....". It is not a matter as to what the outcome will be. It is a matter of what our conduct will be as we approach that day of reckoning. Some would say - typically a male; "in the event of rape, lay down and enjoy it." I say, however, "In the event of rape, fight with every ounce of your being and as though even unto death". I am a student of Playground Rules 101 and they only way I know and understand is 'resist with all your might'. It is also what The Scriptures instruct us to do.

TOMMY SAID:
Mankind has been subjected to such an extent that he cannot and will not overcome the tyranny on his own. He is not going to give up his sedated comfortable artificial life in materialism and greed living in the illusion to do it..

MICHAEL EDWARD SAID:
I concur initially as it relates to the 85% plus of the Americana. However, as it relates to the remainder of The People, I vigorously disagree. And, were any part of the 85% to decide to 'wake up', I believe they would engage. If you study About Us at AmericansRestoringAmerica.com you will see how a very few Americans, focused, will bring about great change. If you study Please Click Here you will learn how the remaining 50% of Americana will be drawn into the activity without even being made aware that is where they are being directed. This argument allows for basically a third of our nation absolutely refusing to do nothing either because they benefit from the present paradigm or they just don't care.

TOMMY SAID:
What you and your friends fail to understand due to that fact, is that the only way we can come out of what we are in, is by receiving outside help for benevolent intervention to get out of what we are in. That does not mean you should stop trying certainly, though once again, you do not comprehend what you are up against. It is a very grave circumstance and you are missing many critical components in your effort to do so.

MICHAEL SAID:
I disagree.

TOMMY SAID:
There is another agenda entirely taking place that your friends are apparently unaware of. It's all good of course It's just not the restore america plan that you feel is the thing to save America to be the worlds only hope. A much larger plan is taking place in the background of your seemingly real but ordinary life in the matrxi of illusion.

MICHAEL EDWARD SAID:
Again, this is not Tim Turner's Restore America Plan a.k.a RAP. Truth be told, this is not Michael Edward's effort, either. This is the fruition of a Vision I had some 15 years ago wherein I received my marching orders to do this certain thing. I chose to be obedient. Not being facetious, I don't believe YOU understand who is the Author and Finisher of this Work.

TOMMY SAID:
Just watch, wait, listen and learn, because the world is about to transform for the better right before your sleepy eyes, without any revolutions or disasters that have been pumped into everyone's mind with the fear pornography on the mindsucker TV..

MICHAEL EDWARD SAID:
We are commanded to 'subdue and take dominion of this earth. The Hebrew word for 'subdue' is to physically take against as against an enemy. This means to me it is not a spectator sport.

TOMMY SAID:
NESARA is the Divinely-inspired plan of Creation to aid in the evolvement of humanity It is simply a means for a transition, a temporary structure to help bring mankind forward, instead of backwards and it was brought about by wealthy visionaries a long time ago to help the world out of the ditch of death, disease and destruction. Any other pursuits of plans or ill-begotten ideas which are not in your best interests are indeed a waste of valuable time, of which there is none left.

MICHAEL EDWARD SAID:
I searched The Scriptures in my memory bank and for the life of me I don't remember reading the name: NESARA or even a passing reference to the work of this group. If you are in reference to the works of a St. Germaine I'm not really able to extend my faith that thin. Now, mind you, I'm not saying what you are holding out for won't happen or isn't there. I'm just saying I am relying upon my own Intel that the American People are up to the job to tend to the task of vigorously participating in this animated contest for freedom.

TOMMY SAID:
If you are continuing to be obstinate and still trying to bring into manifestation an ill-devised program, which is only a facsimile of the true NESARA, then in the end you will be hugely disappointed.

MICHAEL EDWARD SAID:
I've been disappointed before.

TOMMY SAID:
The NESARA goals shall be realized over an extended period of time. Much re-aligning of governments on ALL levels in all countries must take place. Although it will take third world countries a little longer to regroup and become accustomed to a balanced society, that too shall occur. The world is about to get better and not the other way around in spite of what you think you might know.

New generations in those poverty-stricken cultures shall begin life with great promise. People will actually strive to learn more about their counterparts in their own country as well as in others. Without the innate understanding brought into a conscious understanding, all would be lost.

People of all races must lay down their old hatreds and misunderstandings of one another. Those who do not, shall not remain here long. Justice must be for all, or it will be for none. Ancient secrets of the progenitors of religions will come to light. People will learn that religion was but a poisoned placebo.

ALL governments will become compliant or will be changed. The universal 'Law of the One' is not political or religious, but it recognizes that all life comes from the Source of All That IS, and has an equal or equivalent divine plan. We all are equal parts of that plan. No country and no being will be forgotten or shorted in all the coming moments that are now upon our doorstep.

The legal means to take us through this was set in place in 1999 by the ICJ at which time St Germain and the King of Swords, head of the worldwide militia of 4,000,000 men + 40,000 Galactic-humans, were given the power to prosecute and take such actions as are required to remove the corrupt ones and to insure that the whole planet is prepared in time for upshift into the 5th Dimension, in the short time left in this cycle.

Money is not used as a means of exchange in the 5th dimension because there is none, it is simply your appreciation that is used for energy exchange. Right now not many have it to give and that is what is about to be taught so you can learn it. Otherwise, you don't get the eticket to ride the ascension train to 5d when the superwave arrives, it's just that simple.

MICHAEL EDWARD SAID:
As I said earlier..... I disagree with the above restatement of your faith. My faith rests upon The One Who Was, Who Is, and Who Is To Come. It is He, YHWH, Whose plan you mock, and not mine. I am simply being obedient to His prompting. Shema Yisrael!

BURNS wrote:TEXSON AND ANGUSTURA AND OTHER INTERESTED DINARIANS:
THE DEMOCRATS HAVE 25 SEATS THAT UP FOR RE-ELECTION AND 2 INDEPENDENTS THAT CAUCAS WITH THEM. THOSE 25 SENATE SEATS WOULD RENDER THE DEMOCRATS HELPLESS.. THE TEA PARTY HAS A 501 C4 NOT FOR PROFIT VEHICLE, THAT SHOULD MAKE DINAR CONTRIBUTIONS TAX FREE FOR THEM, AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY THE TAX TO CASH IT FOR THEM.. A SERIOUS CONTRIBUTION TO EACH STATE TEA PARTY SHOULD HELP DETERMINE AND SUPPORT THE STRONGEST CHALLANGER FOR THE RACES..
WE DON'T HAVE TO WIN ALL 25 SEATS, A SUPER MAJORITY WILL DO FINE,,

BURNS

Brilliant!! Count me in!

Count me in too, MICHAEL EDWARD.

I am encouraged by the number of people who are like minded in the need for grassroot activism and diligence to accomplish what must be accomplished.
I agree with many of you concerning the Tea Party coalitions. The great thing about the Tea Party is that; it is not a chartered and centrally directed Party.
It is the joining together of millions of like minded citizens of the several States in a united purpose to turn the "progressive" tide and begin the movement of our States and Federal government back toward the tenets of the founding fathers as prescribed in the Constitution and Declaration of Independence.
The Tea Party concept is the embodiment of what the Republic should be.
Individuals sovereign in their person but united as the majority in the election process which is the only form of democracy in our Republic. Acknowledging each individual's Rights as enumerated in the Bill of Rights protected by the Rule of Law as determined by the governed and their Constitution.
We are not a political party but rather; a people who desire freedom and liberty for all people and the directors of our government who are put in place to uphold and serve those same desires under the restraints of our Constitutions, State and Federal.
Supporting those candidates that are approved by Tea Party groups is absolutely a necessary action. The endorsement of Tea Party groups gives credible insight about a candidate that would be difficult for many citizens to access at a local level. This is likeminded people working together.
In the last election, I was able to financially support campaigns in other states because Tea Party people in those states had vetted the candidate and offered me enough confidence to support that candidate.
That is the basis of my thought about PAC'S.
Before I go into some information about a PAC, let me express my belief concerning the Tea Party and these great responses that have come up on this forum.
I expressed my encouragement from reading your responses and the desire you have for our country. I have waited for 5 decades to see the sleeping giant wake up. The giant was out there, but we were limited in our communication abilities thus; our ability to come together. Several things changed that.
The internet was and is very effective. The blatant escalation of evil and evil men boldly acting in their contempt of freedom, liberty, Christian faith, and our Republic as well as their intent to enslave our children. This evil intent has been at work and escalating for approx. 150 years. It gained much momentum during the 1900's and is now in rapid growth.
While many of us, who are older, have seen this escalation and direction in past years; it seemed impossible to arrest it.
We called upon the only power that could help us stop it. His name is God.
In our faith in His Son and the leading of His Holy Spirit, God has inclined His ear and is extending HIs Grace and Mercy toward His people just as He did in 1776 and many times since. On Aug. sixth, a national call to repentence, prayer, and fasting was manifested by God. Many people had already heard that call and had previously responded individually. Many more responded to the national call. No single man or group of men made that call. God made the call and men, women, and children responded and God is pleased.
God has preserved a remnant of true believers and Constutional patriots for this time and He is raising them up to defeat the evil that has infiltrated our governments; local, state, and national.
I talk to many other Tea Party people and now I witness those of you on this forum who are quickened and enabled to engage the challenge.
I thank God for His people that have responded to Him and look to Him for the victories.
I have begun to research setting up a PAC. There is still a lot to learn.
Thus far, this is what I have discovered: a PAC has to be registered at state and/or national level, State level is the least complicated and least expensive,
there are laws and compliances to meet state and/or federal election laws and statutes, there are stringent requirements for records keeping, contributions documentations, etc. However, with registration and paperwork in compliance,
there is a lot of liberty and lattitude in the pusuit of the PAC.
In my thinking; the only advantage of a PAC is: the clout of large funding abilities toward attracting desireable candidates or helping finace a declared candidate that meets the criterial of the PAC beliefs. A PAC along with some assistance from likeminded PAC's could contribute enough campaign finance to eliminate the need for a candidate to consider contributions from those that would require him to support their evil agenda.
Working and financing candidates supported by Tea Party groups is just as viable.
Let's keep this converstion going and considering a lot of great ideas and inspiring direction that you are presenting.

Pennoch,
We get a lot of immigrants in Texas, many are illegal and some are interstate liberal immigrants.
YOU are the kind of immigrant we are looking for!
COM'ON DOWN ! !
Go ahead and start praying for rain here so it will be greener and the fishing holes will be better again.

PATROITIC DINARIANS,

TEXSON, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE GREAT POST!! I AM GATHERING INFO ON THE 23 DEMOCRAT SENATORS THAT ARE UP FOR ELECTION AND THE 10 REPUBLICANS, ALSO.. PLEASE REMEMBER POPPY'S STATEMENT ABOUT INCUMBENTS.. HE WILL WHIP US UNTIL WE BLEED, IF WE VOTE FOR INCUMBENTS...
THANKS AGAIN,

BURNS

THANKS FOR YOUR THOUGHTS MR. SCOTSMAN,
I HOPE TO REFER EVERYONE TO THEIR OWN STATE ORGANIZATION SOON.. I AM IN CONTACT WITH RON DOVE THE OPERATIONS MGR IN WASHINGTON DC.. ARE YOU AN ATTORNEY?? I CANNOT GET AN INDICATION IF WE GAVE DINARS DIRECTLY TO THE STATE TEA PARTIES... WOULD THE FUNDS BE TAX FREE TO THE TEA PARTY?? THEIR VEHICLE IS A 501 C4 NOT FOR PROFIT CORP. NOT A PAC.. PLEASE HELP WITH THIS QUESTION.. THIS WAY WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY TAX ON THE CONVERSION/CASH IN...

BURNS

If you haven't heard this yet, I encourage you to listen. AMAZING and TIMELY song! <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkM-gDcmJeM