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Post by rick152 Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:21 pm

Are we to believe those who have been lieing to us for far too many years, or not? What do you think?





Glenn Beck conspiracy theory: A Saudi national
was involved in the Boston Marathon attack, Glenn Beck alleges. US
officials reject the notion and dismiss the 'evidence' as so much
bureaucratic paperwork.


By Peter Grier | Christian Science Monitor – Thu, Apr 25, 2013

Glenn Beck has spent lots of time in recent days alleging that the Boston Marathon bombing was carried out by a conspiracy that revolved around a shadowy Saudi national questioned by police in a Boston hospital in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy.

OK, is he just winging it here, or does the ex-Fox, now-independent
radio and Internet video host have any real evidence for this charge?

He says he does, unsurprisingly. On his show Wednesday morning Mr. Beck produced a document that he claimed is an official US
“event report” showing that the Saudi in question is a bad, bad man who
was on a no-fly list and already subject to visa revocation.
RECOMMENDED: Quiz: How much do you know about terrorism?
What he didn’t mention is that Fox News reporter Bret Baier
has already looked into this whole alleged Saudi conspiracy, including
the document Beck deemed so revealing, and concluded that there was no
there there, to paraphrase writer Gertrude Stein’s jibe about Oakland.

It’s “false and misleading” to use the internal document on the
Saudi’s immigration status as evidence of the man’s involvement in the
bombings, according to US officials quoted by Mr. Baier in a Fox video blog on April 23.

“The FBI says the Saudi [in question] was just a victim of the terrorist attack,” said Baier.
OK, let’s rewind a bit to clarify this, shall we?

In the immediate aftermath of the Boston tragedy, many media outlets
reported that law enforcement officials were interrogating an injured
Saudi man who had been seen running from the site of the bombs.
Authorities that evening searched his residence in suburban Revere.

Officials later reported that this Saudi was a student and an innocent spectator who had been injured by the blasts and was trying to escape along with many other people on the Marathon route.

Although the man’s name has been reported by some media outlets,
Decoder won’t be using it, so as to not further publicize the identity
of someone police say did nothing wrong.

Since then Glenn Beck has continued to link the Saudi to the bombing
and to terrorism in general. He has charged that the man was in the US
on a student visa that had expired and that he will be deported by US
immigration for security reasons. He has gone so far as to speculate
that a Saudi national may have been an Al Qaeda control agent who recruited the Tsarnaev brothers to carry out the Boston attacks.

Then on Wednesday Beck dropped his other shoe, revealing what he said was important new evidence in the case.

Beck said he had received a document he called a 212 3(B) report, named after its reference in the Patriot Act.
The document said that a Saudi national with the same name as the
person questioned in the hours after the bombing is an “exact match” to
someone on a no-fly list and that derogatory information on him is
“sufficient to request visa revocation.”

A copy of the alleged document posted online by Beck’s web site The
Blaze also noted that the person in question “has One (1) prior event,”
though there was no indication what, or how serious, that event was.

Wow, I mean, this does not look good, does it? Twitter
has exploded with comments about how important this is, and how it
presages the exposure of the conspiracy, which probably involves
everyone up to the level of the Oval Office, and perhaps beyond.

But Bret Baier had this piece of paper already. On Tuesday, he talked with US officials about it, and got a different story.

First off, Baier said the wording of the paper was indeed somewhat dire.

“Anyone looking at this would say this is a bad guy, this means they had a lot of stuff on this guy,” he said.

But officials told him it was simply an automatic piece of customs
paperwork triggered when police went to question the Saudi in the hours
after the bombing.

To make sure he did not somehow get on an airplane before they could
talk to him, they put him on a no-fly list. That automatically meant he
was subject to visa revocation. The other language, including the
reference to an “event,” followed from that.

“Also keep in mind, it’s just … a customs and border control
document…. It’s not indicative of any investigative information,” said
Baier.

After the FBI determined the man had no connection to the Boston
crime, it took several days for the bureaucracy to scrub him out of its
system. That is why the document existed for a short period of time, and
why it shows evidence of officials trying to change it. But anyone
searching the system for his name on the Sunday prior to the bombing
would have found nothing, reported Baier, because no US government
agency was looking for him.

Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano referred to all this obliquely in a Senate hearing on Tuesday.

Sen. Charles Grassley (R) of Iowa asked her, “With regard to the Saudi student, was he on a watch list?”

The Homeland Security Secretary replied that the Saudi in question
had not been on a watch list prior to the bombings and was never really a
person of interest in the case.

“Because he was being interviewed, he was at that point put on a
watch list,” Napolitano added. “And then when it was quickly determined
he had nothing to do with the bombing, the watch listing status was
removed.”

As if all this weren’t complicated enough, a number of news outlets
have reported that there is a second Saudi man in Boston, unrelated to
the student, who was taken into custody when he showed up at a port to
retrieve a package, and a routine check showed he had overstayed his
visa.

That’s the Saudi who is subject to deportation. The student who was caught in the bomb blast is not.

Of course, it’s easy to point out that all this is based on the word
of US officials, and that they’re eager to cover up the conspiracy,
since it makes them look bad, or they are part of it, or something like
that.

But that’s why conspiracy theories persist: it’s easy to dream them up, and hard to disprove them, especially to believers.


http://news.yahoo.com/glenn-beck-conspiracy-theory-whats-evidence-202312996.html

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Post by SEBtopdog Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:50 pm

Parts of this story about the young Saudi national have been put forth by other commentators. I'm not ready to swallow a full-blown conspiracy theory hook, line and sinker. However, Janet Napolitano (Big Sis) has been caught in so many lies testifying in front of Congress, I don't know why she hasn't been moved into Martha Stewart's old digs in the Federal pen. She is not credible.

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Post by SEBtopdog Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:46 am

Just for the sake of "Fair and Balanced", here's Beck's response:


In the wake of the Boston Marathon bombing the media flushed its credibility
down the toilet when it valued breaking information first over reporting the
facts. Remember CNN’s John King proclaiming a ‘dark skinned’ man had been
arrested? Or the misinformation about the number of people killed and
injured?

The federal government, meanwhile, took political correctness to a whole new
level – initially refraining from calling the attack ‘terrorism’ and refusing to
acknowledge the Tsarnaev brothers’ Muslim ties.

The incompetence has spilled over into week two of the investigation. Since
TheBlaze broke the story of the Saudi national, Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi, who
was initially considered a ‘person of interest’ in the Marathon bombing
investigation before later being downgraded to merely a ‘witness,’ the media has
been silent, while the government has been in denial.

As
TheBlaze reported, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet
Napolitano finally admitted (kind of) the Saudi was in fact placed on a watch
list, but her statement was inconsistent at best:

NAPOLITANO: He was not on a watch list. What
happened is — this student was, really when you back it out, he was in the wrong
place at the wrong time. He was never a subject. He was never even really a
person of interest. Because he was being interviewed, he was at that point put
on a watch list, and then when it was quickly determined he had nothing to do
with the bombing, the watch listing status was removed.

“We have like 10 sources on this,” Glenn said on radio this morning of
TheBlaze’s investigation.

“It is amazing,” Pat added. “All of the media sources who just blindly
believe what Janet Napolitano has said, when what Janet Napolitano has said has
changed almost every day.”

“Journalists, you shouldn’t trust the Bush Administration, and you shouldn’t
trust this guy’s administration. You shouldn’t trust them,” Glenn said. “That
doesn’t mean you don’t go after them all the time. It means that you approach
everything with a healthy does of skepticism.”

The art of investigative reporting has clearly been lost, if mainstream news
outlets are now willing to take the government at its word on cases as sensitive
as this.

“They just keep saying, ‘Well, I called the government and they said they
just totally screwed up and put a random Saudi on the watch list. Oops,’” Stu
joked.

And if the government really is just putting random Saudi Arabians on terror
watch lists because they are Saudi Arabian and, therefore, a threat, the
government is admitting racism!

“We’re supposed to be like, ‘Oh, they’re just racist. Put all the Saudis on
the watch list. It’s all right. There’s nothing there. They just put random
Saudis on the terror list whenever they interview them,’” Stu said.

“We pointed that out before. Nobody on the right is even taking this
approach. Humiliate them for their racism. They don’t want to be called racist,
so go for it,” Glenn explained. “If that’s their answer, if you believe what
they are saying, then that’s racist.”

Glenn went on to explain that he knows many respected journalists at the
major networks who put together reports on this story, only to be told that
their stories would not be published or brought to air.

“What kills me is that they are now trying to make this into a conspiracy
theory,” Glenn said. “People are like, ‘He has no facts.’ No, I have the
documentation. I have the sources. We have as much as Woodward and Bernstein
had. We have the sources.”

“Its pretty amazing how much they’ll dismiss,” Pat responded.

“In the end you’ll destroy yourselves. I just hope you don’t destroy our
country at the same time,” Glenn said of the media. “We are in it for America.
Now is there a single person out there that is also in it for America? ‘Well, we
called the DHS already. The Department of Homeland Security said there is
nothing to worry about.’ Oh, okay, whoo. You guys should get a nap in. That
sounds like a tough day of investigative reporting.”

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