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Asprin is really a miracle drug
Asprin just keeps getting better and better. IMO asprin is one of the miracle drugs of many lifetimes, and has more than likely saved countless lives to boot.
------------------------------------------------------------ Mayo Clinic on Aspirin: Dr. Virend Somers, is a Cardiologist from the Mayo Clinic, who is lead author of the report in the July 29, 2008 issue of the Journal of the American College of Cardiology. Most heart attacks occur in the day, generally between 6 A.M. and noon. Having one during the night, when the heart should be most at rest, means that something unusual happened. Somers and his colleagues have been working for a decade to show that sleep apnea is to blame. 1. If you take an aspirin or a baby aspirin once a day, take it at night. The reason: Aspirin has a 24-hour "half-life"; therefore, if most heart attacks happen in the wee hours of the morning, the Aspirin would be strongest in your system. 2. FYI, Aspirin lasts a really long time in your medicine chest for years, (when it gets old, it smells like vinegar). Please read on. Something that we can do to help ourselves - nice to know. Bayer is making crystal aspirin to dissolve instantly on the tongue. They work much faster than the tablets. Why keep Aspirin by your bedside? It's about Heart Attacks - There are other symptoms of a heart attack, besides the pain on the left arm. One must also be aware of an intense pain on the chin, as well as nausea and lots of sweating; however, these symptoms may also occur less frequently. Note: There may be NO pain in the chest during a heart attack. The majority of people (about 60%) who had a heart attack during their sleep did not wake up. However, if it occurs, the chest pain may wake you up from your deep sleep. If that happens, immediately dissolve two aspirins in your mouth and swallow them with a bit of water. Afterwards: - Call 911. - Phone a neighbor or a family member who lives very close by. - Say "heart attack!" - Say that you have taken 2 Aspirins. - Take a seat on a chair or sofa near the front door, and wait for their arrival and ...DO NOT LIE DOWN! |
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I had a friend not to long ago that was having a heart attach. His wife was driving him to the hospital. The whole time she kept hitting him in his chest telling him to wake up and that he wasn't going to die on her. It worked! He made it, and the doctors told her that is what kept him alive. He had a major heart attack! He was in the hospital a couple of weeks, and had heart surgery for all the blockages.
Thank the Lord he made it and is doing great now.

Thank the Lord he made it and is doing great now.

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That is a awesome story Horizon. Thanks
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thanks you guys, very helpful!!!
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Keep in mind that heart attacks, especially in women can often have atypical symptoms. If in doubt, get it checked out. Another classic and deadly sign is denial. I can't tell you how often I transported people who insisted they were not having a MI while exhibiting all or most of the classical signs. If the spouse had not called EMS, they would have likely been dead. Listen to what your body is saying.
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I got an email a while back saying something about, if you feel like you are having a heart attach to start coughing hard....I will have to look for the email....I may still have it.
One of you may know what I am talking about...
One of you may know what I am talking about...
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I found it....yeah...I save stuff....
What are you to do if you have a heart attack
While you are alone.
If you've already received this,
It means people care about you.
While you are alone.
If you've already received this,
It means people care about you.
The Johnson City Medical Center staff actually
Discovered this and did an in-depth study
On it in our ICU.
The two individuals that discovered this then did
An article on it, had it published and have had it incorporated into ACLS and CPR classes.It is very true and has and does work.It is called cough CPR.
A cardiologist says it's the truth
If everyone who gets this sends it to 10 people,
You can bet that we'll save at least one life.
It could save your life!
Let's say it's 6:15 p.m.
And you're driving home
(alone of course), after an usually hard day on the job.
You're really tired, upset and frustrated.
Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain
In your chest that starts to radiate out
Into your arm and up into your jaw.
You are only about five miles from the hospital
Nearest your home.
Unfortunately you don't know if you'll be
Able to make it that far.
What can you do?
You've been trained in CPR
But the guy that taught the course didn't tell
You what to do if it happened to yourself.
]Since many people are alone when they suffer a heart attack, this article seemed to be in order.
Without help, the person whose heart is beating improperly and who begins to feel faint,
Has only about 10 seconds left before losing consciousness,
However, these victims can help themselves by coughing repeatedly and very vigorously,
A deep breath should be taken before each
Cough, and the cough must be deep
And prolonged, as when producing sputum
From deep inside the chest.
A breath and a cough must be repeatedAbout every two seconds without let up
Until help arrives, or until the heart is felt to be beating normally again.Deep breaths get oxygen into the lungs and coughing movements squeeze the heart and
Keep the blood circulating.
The squeezing pressure on the heart also helps it regain normal rhythm. In this way, heart attack victims can get to a hospital.
Tell as many other people as possible about this, it could save their lives!
From Health Cares, Rochester General Hospital via Chapter 240s newsletter 'AND THE BEAT GOES ON '
(reprint from The Mended Hearts, Inc. Publication, Heart Response)
If you've already received this,
It means people care about you.
While you are alone.
If you've already received this,
It means people care about you.
The Johnson City Medical Center staff actually
Discovered this and did an in-depth study
On it in our ICU.
The two individuals that discovered this then did
An article on it, had it published and have had it incorporated into ACLS and CPR classes.It is very true and has and does work.It is called cough CPR.
A cardiologist says it's the truth
If everyone who gets this sends it to 10 people,
You can bet that we'll save at least one life.
It could save your life!
Let's say it's 6:15 p.m.
And you're driving home
(alone of course), after an usually hard day on the job.
You're really tired, upset and frustrated.
Suddenly you start experiencing severe pain
In your chest that starts to radiate out
Into your arm and up into your jaw.
You are only about five miles from the hospital
Nearest your home.
Unfortunately you don't know if you'll be
Able to make it that far.
What can you do?
You've been trained in CPR
But the guy that taught the course didn't tell
You what to do if it happened to yourself.
]Since many people are alone when they suffer a heart attack, this article seemed to be in order.
Without help, the person whose heart is beating improperly and who begins to feel faint,
Has only about 10 seconds left before losing consciousness,
However, these victims can help themselves by coughing repeatedly and very vigorously,
A deep breath should be taken before each
Cough, and the cough must be deep
And prolonged, as when producing sputum
From deep inside the chest.
A breath and a cough must be repeatedAbout every two seconds without let up
Until help arrives, or until the heart is felt to be beating normally again.Deep breaths get oxygen into the lungs and coughing movements squeeze the heart and
Keep the blood circulating.
The squeezing pressure on the heart also helps it regain normal rhythm. In this way, heart attack victims can get to a hospital.
Tell as many other people as possible about this, it could save their lives!
From Health Cares, Rochester General Hospital via Chapter 240s newsletter 'AND THE BEAT GOES ON '
(reprint from The Mended Hearts, Inc. Publication, Heart Response)
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Last December my husband gave me 2 aspirin's to chew while he was talking to the 911 operator. Did the job!! Had a heart cath, stent placed & doing real good now. For sure Aspirin is a life saver.

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I am a survivor of 3 heart attacks, or in medical terms, myocardial infarctions. I have three stents in my heart. I have had a six-artery bypass when I was 36 years old. Due to a little known disease called Sudden Cardiac Death Syndrome, I am currently on my second Defibrillator/pacemaker. I have already worn one out, the batteries went dead.
The information that is put up here about aspirin is VERY good to know. Whether it is prescribed, suggested, or even mentioned by your doctor, it is a good idea to be on an aspirin regimen. One aspirin a day will help prevent heart disease, heart attacks, and it keeps your blood thinned to prevent blockages. If you suspect that you are having a heart attack, immediately take an aspirin, or better yet, chew up a baby aspirin. CALL 911 IMMEDIATELY, IF NOT SOONER. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE IN THIS SITUATION!!
The information that is put up here about aspirin is VERY good to know. Whether it is prescribed, suggested, or even mentioned by your doctor, it is a good idea to be on an aspirin regimen. One aspirin a day will help prevent heart disease, heart attacks, and it keeps your blood thinned to prevent blockages. If you suspect that you are having a heart attack, immediately take an aspirin, or better yet, chew up a baby aspirin. CALL 911 IMMEDIATELY, IF NOT SOONER. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE IN THIS SITUATION!!
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Such great advice contained in this thread. Aspirin is the least expensive weapon we should all have in our arsenal at all times. And to those of you who have been helped or saved by using aspirin, I'm so glad you or your loved one had the presence of mind to administer the aspirin just when you needed it most. 

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Asprin isnt all that great taken over long periods of time. It has the possibility of causing mini brain bleeds. I use to take it but have switched to ginko. Ive found it to be more effective and has saved me form many possible heart attacks. It acts as a natural blood thiner, without the asprin side effects. Take an asprin havent taken one in years, I'll put ginko up against it any day.Also I take magnesium twice daily it helps relax my viens,good for restless leg syndrom also. If you want more stints keep doing what they tell you is good for you. I take L ARGINE that seems to clean out my viens when I start feeling slugish. Pectin comes from apples and also seems to aid me to that end. A good juicer, or buy it cloudy to get all the benifits of apple juicie. I was getting kidney stones once a year like clock work. Once I started taking magnesium,gone. I told my brother In law about what I found to be true,he listened to the doctors. And soon will be waiting for a new heart replacement .He's a lot younger then me very sad he wouldnt try these simple remedies. Most couldnt hurt you anyway. As far as ginko goes I wouldnt take it if I was on blood thiners specially rat poisn - cumadin. Last but not least I take lecithin. It comes from soy beans and seems to aid me in also keeping my viens clean of placque sludge.It also helps keep my mind up to par it seems. Always consult with your doctor to be sure these natural remedies won't hurt.To your Health"
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kingosawbe wrote:Asprin isnt all that great taken over long periods of time. It has the possibility of causing mini brain bleeds. I use to take it but have switched to ginko. Ive found it to be more effective and has saved me form many possible heart attacks. It acts as a natural blood thiner, without the asprin side effects. Take an asprin havent taken one in years, I'll put ginko up against it any day.Also I take magnesium twice daily it helps relax my viens,good for restless leg syndrom also. If you want more stints keep doing what they tell you is good for you. I take L ARGINE that seems to clean out my viens when I start feeling slugish. Pectin comes from apples and also seems to aid me to that end. A good juicer, or buy it cloudy to get all the benifits of apple juicie. I was getting kidney stones once a year like clock work. Once I started taking magnesium,gone. I told my brother In law about what I found to be true,he listened to the doctors. And soon will be waiting for a new heart replacement .He's a lot younger then me very sad he wouldnt try these simple remedies. Most couldnt hurt you anyway. As far as ginko goes I wouldnt take it if I was on blood thiners specially rat poisn - cumadin. Last but not least I take lecithin. It comes from soy beans and seems to aid me in also keeping my viens clean of placque sludge.It also helps keep my mind up to par it seems. Always consult with your doctor to be sure these natural remedies won't hurt.To your Health"
You have obviously done a lot of studying about natural remedies, kingosawbe. I have been taking "rat poison" (warfarin) for 6 years. I have been battling my doctor constantly about it. I developed a blood clot in my upper arm 6 years ago with absolutely none of the usual risk factors -- no smoking, no drinking, vegan, moderate exercise, thin build. But 5 of my siblings and both parents had blood clots at one time or another. I seem to react to vitamin K. Go figure. I've since been diagnosed with a type of muscular dystrophy, so there is danger of a brain bleed if I fall and hit my head. Anyway, my doc and I have been discussing the alternatives if I go off the warfarin. She recommends aspirin therapy, but I'm liking the idea of natural therapies. I can see I have much more research to do, but thank you for pointing me in a direction.

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Cardiac99 wrote:I am a survivor of 3 heart attacks, or in medical terms, myocardial infarctions. I have three stents in my heart. I have had a six-artery bypass when I was 36 years old. Due to a little known disease called Sudden Cardiac Death Syndrome, I am currently on my second Defibrillator/pacemaker. I have already worn one out, the batteries went dead.
The information that is put up here about aspirin is VERY good to know. Whether it is prescribed, suggested, or even mentioned by your doctor, it is a good idea to be on an aspirin regimen. One aspirin a day will help prevent heart disease, heart attacks, and it keeps your blood thinned to prevent blockages. If you suspect that you are having a heart attack, immediately take an aspirin, or better yet, chew up a baby aspirin. CALL 911 IMMEDIATELY, IF NOT SOONER. TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE IN THIS SITUATION!!
So now we know where you got your name!!! Glad you are here to give the advise!
Something else I use Asprin for is My dog that is 15 yrs old. She is a Golden Retriever and as most know their joints get bad with age and this helps her. The reason for giving her Asprin was because she has heart worms, and can't be treated because of her age, the doctor said give her an asprin a day, and she is doing good. She has been on them for 2 yrs now.

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Yes, Horizon, that is where the screen name comes from. When I was recovering from my bypass surgery in 1999, a friend of mine started calling me "Cardiac" and I just added the "99" because that was when it all started and most screen names require a number.
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Asprin is good in a quick pinch,but it won't help you in case of a stroke. Again its my personal opinion that ginko has that ability not only to stop. But also to prevent a stroke from happening. After my heart attack and stint, I was still getting angina.Asprin wasn't stopping these occasions from happening. So thay said it was possible I could have a stroke.Strange don't you think because I have natural thin blood. Well I didnt want to have to use the nitro pills so I tried using ginko instead. They would quickly make any case of angina few and far between.If one ginko doesn't do it two do. If I ever take a litte to much ginko it shows up in my eyes. I just back off a pill seems to fix that. And I always carry magnesium with me it seems to help relieve stress to my heart. I found out that magnesium is low in people who have heart attacks. So its a no brainer.Its hard to over dose on magnesium.C Q10 seems to help with my problems too. My heart doctor told me to use folic acid,glad I did .It seems to aid me in preventing blood clotts. To Your Health"
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Aspirin is strictly an anticoagulant and so would have no effect on angina. However, it is that anticoagulant effect that can be a life saver in the case of a heart attack. Ginko on the other hand, also has some vascular effects and thus might help with angina. Ginko can effect the efficacy of many drugs, including anticoagulants, hypertensives, imunosuppressants, diabetics, and psychoactive drugs so consult a physician before taking.
Magnesium aids in smooth muscle function and so may help in cardiovascular issues. It may also help with type two diabetes, but more study is needed. Deficiencies are not common but do occur in older folks and in people taking diuretics.
As always, consult a health care practitioner.
BTW, acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) metabolizes into Salicylic acid found in willow (Salix) bark and other plants. It was first synthesized in the late 1800's making it one of the oldest and at 40,000 tons a year on of the most common drugs.
Magnesium aids in smooth muscle function and so may help in cardiovascular issues. It may also help with type two diabetes, but more study is needed. Deficiencies are not common but do occur in older folks and in people taking diuretics.
As always, consult a health care practitioner.
BTW, acetylsalicylic acid (aspirin) metabolizes into Salicylic acid found in willow (Salix) bark and other plants. It was first synthesized in the late 1800's making it one of the oldest and at 40,000 tons a year on of the most common drugs.
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Yes asprin is strictly for blood thining I had to find this out myself. No thanks to the doctors and there nitro. Still have the bottle long expired. Salicylic acid is also found in many analgesics.Read the label before you rub it on, you could be giving your self an over dose of salicylic acid. If your taking asprin therapy as always consult your doctor.Another reason I am not to fond of asprin, it can also lead to internal bleeding. As with all man made products theres possible side effects. Now when I found out that gingko had been used in europe for many many years. I thought to try it. And was plesantly surprised. Not saying throw your asprins away. Just talking about other things that have helped me stay away form the emergency room. I ve seen others go into the hospital to have multiple stints. Following the doctors orders the best they could. Never getting the results they hoped for. Staying away from carbs specially in sodas even diet sodas. Where as stevia and agave have no effect on the pancreas. Diet sodas have not helped my son, who has diabetes They seem to effect his pancreas just as if they were sugar drinks. And I have worned him about it. To your health Trust but verify -R- Reagan
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No drug, herbal or otherwise, is completely safe. They ALL have risks, you have to evaluate the risks and benefits with your physician. Currently a daily aspirin regimen is not recommended for people who have not had a heart attack, bypass, stent, have diabetes or are otherwise at high risk for a heart attack. It MAY help in a stroke, the problem is that while a MI is always ischemic in nature, a stroke can be ischemic or hemorrhagic, only a CT scan can differentiate which. Aspirin or any other anticoagulant could worsen a hemorrhagic stroke. It could help in a ischemic stroke, but at that point the hospital has other options that are faster and more effective. So if you even suspect a stroke, don't screw around, call EMS.
As far as Ginko, from the University of Maryland Medical Center Complimentary Medicine Department:
Possible Interactions:
Ginkgo may interact with some prescription and non-prescription medications. If you are taking any of the following medications, you should not use ginkgo without first talking to your health care provider:
Medications metabolized by the liver -- Ginkgo can interact with some medications that are processed through the liver. If you take any prescription medications, ask your doctor before taking ginkgo.
Seizure medications (anticonvulsants) -- High doses of ginkgo could make drugs to control seizures, such as carbamazepine (Tegretol) or valproic acid (Depakote), less effective.
Antidepressants -- Taking ginkgo along with a kind of antidepressant called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) may increase the risk of serotonin syndrome, a potentially fatal condition. Ginkgo may strengthen both the good and bad effects of antidepressant medications known as MAOIs, such as phenelzine (Nardil). SSRIs include:
Citalopram (Celexa)
Escitalopram (Lexapro)
Fluoxetine (Prozac)
Fluvoxamine (Luvox)
Paroxetine (Paxil)
Sertraline (Zoloft)
Medications for high blood pressure -- Ginkgo may lower blood pressure, so taking it with blood pressure medications may cause blood pressure to drop too low. There has been a report of an interaction between ginkgo and nifedipine (Procardia), a calcium channel blocker used for blood pressure and arrhythmias.
Blood-thinning medications -- Ginkgo may raise the risk of bleeding, especially if you take blood-thinners such as warfarin (Coumadin), clopidogrel (Plavix), and aspirin.
Ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin) -- Like ginkgo, the nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) ibuprofen also raises the risk of bleeding. There has been bleeding in the brain reported when using a ginkgo product and ibuprofen.
Medications to lower blood sugar -- Ginkgo may raise or lower insulin levels and blood sugar levels. If you have diabetes, you should not use ginkgo without first talking to your doctor.
Cylosporine -- Ginkgo biloba may help protect the cells of the body during treatment with the drug cyclosporine, which suppresses the immune system.
Thiazide diuretics (water pills) -- There is one report of a person who took a thiazide diuretic and ginkgo developing high blood pressure. If you take thiazide diuretics, ask your doctor before taking ginkgo.
Trazodone -- There is one report of an elderly Alzheimer's patient going into a coma after taking ginkgo and trazodone (Desyrel), an antidepressant medication.
Read more: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/ginkgo-biloba-000247.htm#ixzz1wD5wnugO
As far as Ginko, from the University of Maryland Medical Center Complimentary Medicine Department:
Possible Interactions:
Ginkgo may interact with some prescription and non-prescription medications. If you are taking any of the following medications, you should not use ginkgo without first talking to your health care provider:
Medications metabolized by the liver -- Ginkgo can interact with some medications that are processed through the liver. If you take any prescription medications, ask your doctor before taking ginkgo.
Seizure medications (anticonvulsants) -- High doses of ginkgo could make drugs to control seizures, such as carbamazepine (Tegretol) or valproic acid (Depakote), less effective.
Antidepressants -- Taking ginkgo along with a kind of antidepressant called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) may increase the risk of serotonin syndrome, a potentially fatal condition. Ginkgo may strengthen both the good and bad effects of antidepressant medications known as MAOIs, such as phenelzine (Nardil). SSRIs include:
Citalopram (Celexa)
Escitalopram (Lexapro)
Fluoxetine (Prozac)
Fluvoxamine (Luvox)
Paroxetine (Paxil)
Sertraline (Zoloft)
Medications for high blood pressure -- Ginkgo may lower blood pressure, so taking it with blood pressure medications may cause blood pressure to drop too low. There has been a report of an interaction between ginkgo and nifedipine (Procardia), a calcium channel blocker used for blood pressure and arrhythmias.
Blood-thinning medications -- Ginkgo may raise the risk of bleeding, especially if you take blood-thinners such as warfarin (Coumadin), clopidogrel (Plavix), and aspirin.
Ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin) -- Like ginkgo, the nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID) ibuprofen also raises the risk of bleeding. There has been bleeding in the brain reported when using a ginkgo product and ibuprofen.
Medications to lower blood sugar -- Ginkgo may raise or lower insulin levels and blood sugar levels. If you have diabetes, you should not use ginkgo without first talking to your doctor.
Cylosporine -- Ginkgo biloba may help protect the cells of the body during treatment with the drug cyclosporine, which suppresses the immune system.
Thiazide diuretics (water pills) -- There is one report of a person who took a thiazide diuretic and ginkgo developing high blood pressure. If you take thiazide diuretics, ask your doctor before taking ginkgo.
Trazodone -- There is one report of an elderly Alzheimer's patient going into a coma after taking ginkgo and trazodone (Desyrel), an antidepressant medication.
Read more: http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/ginkgo-biloba-000247.htm#ixzz1wD5wnugO
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Look Ginko isn't a cure all, and sure you should ask your doctor.And yes you can't use it with man made drugsl always. But over all its a lot safer then asprin, which indeed isnt a miracle drug. All these other drugs might not be needed if people knew of alternatives.Just like my wifes doctor said, wanted to put her on some cholesterol meds. I said not so fast lets try some niacin first. Next time she came back,her blood presure was fine and so was her cholesterol . Now niacin has been used for many years, but because it was so simple. Now all these other drugs including some herbs, have a PDR full of them . Just mask the problem of bad diet. Another example, a dear friend of mine had diabetes. Taking medication,for high blood and several other things. I suggested modify your diet. He kept seeing the doctor and as time went by got off all of his medication with the doctors approval. And to this day has more energy and no need for his prior medications. A lot of these medications wouldn't be needed if the right foods were eaten. While doctors were still giving out laudnum and mercury. An american herbalist named jethrow kloss was healing people using simple remedies, including cancer. Want to try some alternatives? You might get the book back to Eden by Jethro kloss. To Your Health eat well and prosper . After all possibilites have been eliminated that which remains must be the truth
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I have no problems with alternative medicine, my concern is too many people will take herbal preparations or other natural remedies blindly thinking they are safe because they are natural. Yet many interact with other preparations or may have serious side effects. Your friend is a good example, Ginko could have significant unintended consequences for them since they already have a problem with insulin utilization, and so should only be taken under supervision and with careful monitoring.
Efficacy is another issue. You need to make sure you purchase your preparations from a reputable company that monitors production to ensure strength and, perhaps more importantly, purity. My wife and I use essential oils and some herbal preparations. We buy from companies like Young Living even though we can get similar products from other companies for less. The reason we do is that YL verifies every batch's strength and purity before releasing it. In fact they monitor the entire production process from growth to harvest to bottling. Many of the cheaper products do not even bother to verify strength or purity, IMO, it's worth the extra money.
My doctor and I take an all of the above approach. We are indeed fearfully and wonderfully made, and our bodies will in most cases heal itself if we allow and release it to. The problem is how do we do that. I am trying some new things as we speak, and yes, my doctor is monitoring my progress and is interested to see the results. I also take some conventional medications where other solutions have not yet worked. OH, and I also take Niacin, but while it helped boost my HDL which was dangerously low, it did nothing for my blood pressure. As to bad diet, we are very careful what we eat, and prepare all of our foods from scratch so for us that is not an issue.
BTW, many drugs commonly prescribed originated in nature, warfarin and digitalis being two that come immediately to mind. Scientists have isolated and synthesized the active ingredients. The results are saved lives.
Efficacy is another issue. You need to make sure you purchase your preparations from a reputable company that monitors production to ensure strength and, perhaps more importantly, purity. My wife and I use essential oils and some herbal preparations. We buy from companies like Young Living even though we can get similar products from other companies for less. The reason we do is that YL verifies every batch's strength and purity before releasing it. In fact they monitor the entire production process from growth to harvest to bottling. Many of the cheaper products do not even bother to verify strength or purity, IMO, it's worth the extra money.
My doctor and I take an all of the above approach. We are indeed fearfully and wonderfully made, and our bodies will in most cases heal itself if we allow and release it to. The problem is how do we do that. I am trying some new things as we speak, and yes, my doctor is monitoring my progress and is interested to see the results. I also take some conventional medications where other solutions have not yet worked. OH, and I also take Niacin, but while it helped boost my HDL which was dangerously low, it did nothing for my blood pressure. As to bad diet, we are very careful what we eat, and prepare all of our foods from scratch so for us that is not an issue.
BTW, many drugs commonly prescribed originated in nature, warfarin and digitalis being two that come immediately to mind. Scientists have isolated and synthesized the active ingredients. The results are saved lives.
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Re: Asprin is really a miracle drug
Your right you have to be cautious with certain herbs, just like other medicines. More then any thing I juice. Before Jack lalane, was Jay the juice man kordich. His book the power of juicing has really helped me. I am determined to never have another heart attack. Apples have pectin,it has been shown to help clean plaque out of arteries. So I do a lot of juicing, why not, it has only helped . To Your Health"
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Re: Asprin is really a miracle drug
kingosawbe wrote:Your right you have to be cautious with certain herbs, just like other medicines. More then any thing I juice. Before Jack lalane, was Jay the juice man kordich. His book the power of juicing has really helped me. I am determined to never have another heart attack. Apples have pectin,it has been shown to help clean plaque out of arteries. So I do a lot of juicing, why not, it has only helped . To Your Health"
kingosawbe, I bought the Jack LaLanne juicer about a year ago. Brought it home from the store, unpacked it, took it all apart to wash it before use. After washing and drying all the parts, I realized there were 10 parts that would have to be removed and washed each day!

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Thats why I kept my smaller juice man, by Jay the juice man kordich. Less of a hassle. Jacks was a monster and didnt give me any more juice. That vita mix is great, I hope to get the one montel talks about ,very impressive.The vitamix looks real good too. Probably going to get one or the other. looks like both would do the job. People don't realize, even if there eating right. There stiill missing alot of the vital nutrients.You can run even the white core of the water melon. You wouldnt want to do that with the vitamix or with montels. But when you use the juicemans, with only four parts,(cleans in about 3 minutes)You get about all of the vitamins, plus a terific drink. Jays book is great,he has it right. He tells of the best combinations and which not to mix. "To your health"
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Re: Asprin is really a miracle drug
kingosawbe wrote:Thats why I kept my smaller juice man, by Jay the juice man kordich. Less of a hassle. Jacks was a monster and didnt give me any more juice. That vita mix is great, I hope to get the one montel talks about ,very impressive.The vitamix looks real good too. Probably going to get one or the other. looks like both would do the job. People don't realize, even if there eating right. There stiill missing alot of the vital nutrients.You can run even the white core of the water melon. You wouldnt want to do that with the vitamix or with montels. But when you use the juicemans, with only four parts,(cleans in about 3 minutes)You get about all of the vitamins, plus a terific drink. Jays book is great,he has it right. He tells of the best combinations and which not to mix. "To your health"
Thanks! Great info. :flower:
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