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Post by HeadNotTheTail Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:59 pm

I have Taken myself out of the Loop for a while so to Make sure not to Focus on anything But Jesus and School, And I will be the first to say that I do my best but that's all I can do. It is hard to get away from all of the so called Christians that keep lifting up this Dinar to Jesus and praying for mana. Man if we could just think like God for a second, Wow . My Head would probably blow up.lol Do You think that God will Honor our Prayers about this Dinar, He is up there saying all we really need is His son. Some People are calling it Daily and I don't even read their Post's any more. Sure we need a [b]Breakthrough[/b] But We need his son First and Only.So if your going to Sell a Product on Here or Protest Christ Just think about the message that you will be sending out first , I pray that all of us Become rich on earth in Monetary value, But I pray that we are brought to our Knees First to Honor God. Help Me spred the News about Jesus First... *********So I challenge all of You all over this world To Join Me In Shout to Jesus day, NEXT Monday 25th. at 12:30 pm at lunch time .. Just go out side and Shout Jesus... If you are in Sarasota Fl at that Time You just Might Hear me Shout Jesus... Here is a Big What if,,,, Ready ........What if all the Christians all over the world shouted at the same time to Jesus,,,,,,,What would Happen....Man that Blows My mind....Tell all your friends to join us on this, what a Blessing it will be to Your Heart. What Do you think will happen.........I KNOW something will Happen...God Bless All Of You ALL OF YOU. Remember Monday 25th at 12:30pm JESUS!
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Post by Guest Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:16 pm

Glad to see you back. It seems some of the intel providers are throwing in the towel.

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Post by Clydesdale Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:26 pm

Great Post, I'm in for SHOUT FOR JESUS!


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Post by PrudenceArt Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:32 pm

I AM SHOUTING PRAISE JESUS RIGHT NOW

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Post by bigdaddytim Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:41 pm

Punisher, can we just offer a bounty instead of letting them throw in the towel?

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Post by Ponee Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:45 pm

Aaargh....You didn't just say that..... Rolling Eyes

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:49 pm

I just hate to see anyone throw in the towel.

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Post by Ponee Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:53 pm

He really isn't though, just stepping away from bad intel is all. And to me it is a positive change, not a negative one.

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:02 pm

@ponee wrote:He really isn't though, just stepping away from bad intel is all. And to me it is a positive change, not a negative one.

Yeah too much bad intel going around for a while.

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Post by gmahunni Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:08 pm

Thank you, HNTT for sharing this! I wholeheartedly agree, and in fact, I think that it's a good example of examining ourselves to discern if we are being led by our SOULISH nature or our SPIRIT. Jesus wasn't born into great wealth, but His Father, OUR Father, provided for all His needs. We need to remember that our God is a God of more than ENOUGH and we need to make sure our focus, our trust, and our confidence is in HIM.

I've come to see this dinar journey as a time of "refining" for His people. Yes, to be blessed with material wealth would enable many of us to do many good things in the world. We can justify this in our soulish understanding. However, living and walking by faith means that we learn that ALL our needs are met by Him. We have to be careful that we're not walking on both sides of the fence as we realize that we must pray for HIS will, not ours, to be done. He can pull a coin from the mouth of a fish, He can make money grow on trees, He could make jewels fall from the sky. He WOULD, too, if it were in our best interest to do so! However, what does our God desire MORE than seeing His children wealthy? Their Spiritual GOOD HEALTH. We must mature in our understanding that our lives here, brief and uncertain, difficult and challenged, are to fulfill a GREATER purpose in our lives and the lives of others.

How is silver refined? Great HEAT. If we are to rid ourselves of the chaff of "wrong thinking", what better tool than to use the desire for wealth to accomplish this? This entire roller coaster has fulfilled a purpose within each of our hearts: what has been exposed in yours? Are you what God wants you to be, or not? When silver is heated, the impurities rise to the top. These need to be removed before the silver is purified.

Years ago I PRAYED, literally BEGGED God for a financial windfall. We are a large family on a single income, and we had overwhelming financial responsibilities. In addition, people we loved and trusted had STOLEN from us, and put our financial situation in worse distress. The word from the Lord that I received is this: "I can give you this release from this burden at any time, but at what cost? If I give it to you when you are not ready, I will lose your heart, because you will rely on the wealth instead of me. But I will let you choose- do you want the provision now, or do you want me?" I didn't even hesitate with my reply- I want YOU, Lord!

He has carried us since that day. I have seen many opportunities for financial windfalls come and go, and each time I recognize that I am not ready yet (if ever). At the same time, an unexpected "gift" would show up just when we needed it, and the credit is all His. I never want to lose my relationship with Him and if money will do it, I don't want it! Yet, He has taken care of our every need. We have debt, and we still have financial pressure and stress, but that's because we're still being refined. My prayer isn't: let this blessing come now, but instead, Lord, prepare me to be a Steward of what you've already given to Honor and Bless YOU. If/when a windfall comes, it will be HIS and for HIS purposes, which I hope to discern correctly.

I pray that each of us experiences the growth and change that He desires in us through this journey. I don't know what the outcome will be...it all depends on what is BEST for His children. He does, however, allow us to choose. We can choose to be destroyed by the desires of our heart, or we can choose to allow Him to align our desires with HIS heart, making us reliable stewards of His blessings. One question I would ask you: if getting everything you ever wanted caused your heart to grow cold toward Him, would it be worth it?

I got into this seeing the possibility that we could be debt free from it, and I could see God's hand in it. After over a year of hype, we invested ALL our savings into this because our dreams and goals grew and we began to think differently about the possibilities around us. I think that it is good to adopt the mentality that our resources are unlimited, because they ARE, right NOW, before the dinar rv! We have a Father with UNLIMITED resources, and if He's limited our access to those, then perhaps we are not yet lined up with Him correctly. Perhaps our faith, courage, or sight is limited. Perhaps we are planning with our flesh, rather than being led by the Spirit. Perhaps, just perhaps...we need to get back on our knees and find out what HE wants us to be doing. As His children, we must know His voice, and be obedient to His Spirit. We will make mistakes as we learn, but He is faithful to teach us and guide us through.

Some of you may have it exactly right. I've been inspired by many of the posts from people who obviously love God and desire to please Him, and trust Him. Some of us need a little more work, I think. We are clay on the Potters wheel, and if we are in the oven, then we simply need a little more time to "cook." Whatever stage we are in, we need to connect with Him to make sure we are on the same page as He is. THEN we will have perfect Peace and stop assuming God will act/perform on OUR time table.

I hope this doesn't offend anyone. I felt inspired to respond with this from the passionate post that initiated this thread. I appreciate the honest expressions of concern from others, and hope that mine don't cause any harm. I'm not judging anyone else, but mostly sharing from my personal revelations and hope that it will help someone else along this journey.

In Peace and Love <3

BTW, IF I remember next Monday (which is the 23rd) at 12:30 pm to step outside and shout the name JESUS, I will certainly do it! I just sometimes forget planned events. Smile
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Post by HeadNotTheTail Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:52 pm

Thank you Guys you Bless my Heart, Sorry about the Date mix up Monday the 23rd ..We all have been here for a minute and time to take another break. My friends are good to me...Hey Ponee, Punisher, P.Art, gmahuunie, Clydesdale, and Big Daddy You Guys Rock. Keep on Pressing in.
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Post by davidpg Wed Apr 18, 2012 6:20 pm

HNTT you are right on the money. Now all I have to do is remember to shout out on Monday. (I have developed CRS over the last couple of years.) This is in Gods hands and not ours so we need to look to him for everything!
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Post by hithere Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:10 pm

Youre so right HNTT!! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Clydesdale Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:08 am

I think we should do it every monday, It would give us all a better start to our week?

Anyone else with me?


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Post by Just Da Truth Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:25 am

I found this on another site thought it was interesting read.



I feel this is important and still very very valid.

Phoenix

I found this posted some where else by the poster named "todo"
I feel everyone should read this as it rings true to my heart.
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"Hi all,
First post and probably the last. I felt so impressed to write this, so here goes. I know no one on this site and have no reputation that you should believe me. But if my words are true you are going to want to consider.

When the news of the dinar came to me I began to pray concerning the opportunity. It was September 2010 when the the Lord clearly showed us to go forward. We had waited for that confirmation for several years. Afterwards, the Lord has spoken four things to me.

1) There will be the test of delay.
2) This dinar will reveal what is truly in your soul
3) There will be a short window of time in which to act after the revalue
4) If you seek to hold onto the windfall you will loose it.
The Lord told me in Sweetwater TN that the dinar would "test your soul".

Since then I have seen all kinds of Christians arguing and fighting about certain things pertaining to the dinar. It should not be that way. I see people regularly engaging in name calling, especially against Maliki, I see the desperation for funds that seems to continually be present with all kinds of people.

Others talk about spending wildly/foolishly on things that are extreme luxuries. It appears my word is coming to pass. Many many people are looking to the dinar as the provision, rather than Him who is the Provider. I really had to check my heart as well. He is asking me personally, where do I get my information?
Selah.

I will share here what almost no one here will know or even understand. I give this to you so that you can consider and take the right actions if you choose. There is a prophetic people that has been seated across the land for the purpose of the Kingdom of God. Starting in around the beginning of 2009 the Lord told us that there would begin the emergence of the Elijah ministry in the earth. This was previsouly told to us in 1996, so it was no surprise when it came about 13 years later. What we did not realize that it would not only be Elijah, but Elisha as well. We did not see the big picture, and perhaps still do not.

When this Elisha ministry began we started to see the miracles of Elisha come to pass in a very public, national manner. The eigth sign was the poison in the pot. We learned from the news that the Gulf of Mexico was also called a cauldron on underwather charts. When the oil spill threatened all life in the gulf, we recognized it was the poison in the pot. A group of hidden intercessors went to the headwaters of the Mississippi and threw ground barley meal as instructed by the Lord into the river. Exactly 144 hours and 9 minutes later BP announced the plugging of the well; the approximate time it takes water to flow the river to the gulf. 144 is the number representing the elect that now stand among you.

The ninth sign to come is the multiplication of provsion. Many people have now comfirmed that this is linked to the dinar. The Lord has been quiet on this since last July, and we expect the final 8 signs (9-16) to begin to come to pass around this year's Passover.. We are very close, but do not know exactly how this will play out.

The Eurphrates flowed under the walls of Babylon. To overcome this city, the Medes and Persians diverted the flow of the water into a swampy area so that they might sneak into the city under the wall. The night before the attack a wild party was happening in Babylon and so the people we hung over the next morning. The armies took the city without much resistance and it still stands today. This story speaks of how the money system, represented by Babylon will fall.

If you can receive it, the Medes are the media. The Persians are Iran. The wall is Wall Street. The Eurphates is the substance (money) that keeps the city propped up. The orgy has been going on in Washington DC now for some time. We are looking for the time in which the handwriting on the wall will appear. That sign will tell us exactly when the money system will fail. To bring about this demise the Euphrates (bountiful) will be diverted. We believe this is the sign of the dinar revaluation. It will happen to bring about the fall of Mystery Babylon.

The dollar is the means by which money changers enslaved the world in debt. How much do you think the God will overthrow or kick over the tables of the SYSTEM that keeps people entrapped and the gospel from going forth? There is no way anyone can understand why this is happening to the dollar unless you first understand what is happening in world commerce. Since most Christians are comepletely ignorant, they view the coming crash as something terrible, but in reality the kingdoms of the world are becoming the kingdom of our God.

Mystery Babylon is mysterious. It was called this because of its hidden-ness. The Lord did not want to replace the yoke of wood He gave the earth with a yoke of iron, therefore, the world was sold into the rule of Babylon without most people knowing. Had they known what was happening, they would have rebelled as Israel did in the biblical account. This would have required the greater sentence thus a much worse world situation. The "Mystery" part of Babylon was much grace to us all as God kept us from understanding to keep us subject to His judgement that we might learn. That is wisdom.

Mystery Babylon for our time became manifest on December 23rd, 1913 with the passing of the Federal Reserve Act. This transferred the right to print money from the US Govern't to the string of privately owned banks that had been ruling Europe for many years. Over the last 98 years, we have seen the rise and fall of this world money power in which a defacto world currency was used to enslave most of the nations of the world.

In 1974 Kissinger made an agreement with OPEC that all oil would be sold in US dollars only. These states would use the money to buy US debt and allow the press to run ad infinitum ad nauseum. This then required all nations to go to the Federal Reserve to exchange the local currency for the US dollar with which to purchase energy. This is exactly what happened with the Money Changers in Jesus' day. Interest, which is unlawful according to Divine Law, was used to place these nations under control of the money system.

Gradually all the nations' central banks fell to the banking system. It has been said that the greastest evil under the sun is not war or famine, but compound interest. At the time of 9/11 only seven publically held central banks existed in the world. Now after our two wars there are only 5. A publically held central bank gives a country the ability to get out of debt. When banks are privately held, the debt is never released but owed to those who print the money. That was the plan of this Babylonian system. This is well understood by anyone who understands money.

So in 1983, the seventy years of Babylonian rule had been completed, but the systematic church was not aware of the time it was in. It could not proclaim the release from Babylon since itself had become very much like the world system. God began to call out the overcomers at that time and form a people that would declare a spiritual jubilee and overthrow the Babylonian rule. Details of these years are comprehensive, but I will not write about it here. It has involved much transition and God raised up true intercessors in the nation to repair the breaches in our spiritual gates.

Now the church, not being aware of its failure to proclaim the jubliee brought charge against the remnant in the divine court in heaven in 2001, but lost the case. This established God's remnant with the right to rule. They were then instructed then to overthrow the tables of the money changers, set free the captives from the Babylonian system, and produce the fruit of the kingdom.
Although many intercessions went out over those years, the financial system held on until October of 2008 for good reason, when we saw the signs of collapse manifest. The head of gold (Babylonian image) would soon be sacked, i.e. Goldman Sachs, and the symbols of Babylon would start to fall. The walled city Babylon was manifested as "Wall Street", which would receive the brunt of the change. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdom of our God.

After WWII, Japan was set up as a satellite government of the US. It was run mainly by large money interests and policed by those same powers that were well established in the US government. After fighting such a costly war, there was no way the Allies would allow Japan to ever recover its strength outside their control. The Japanese government has for the most part been an extension of the Federal Reserve banking system. In the last 2 to 3 years, it has rebelled against the financial system electing outsiders to the government rejecting liberal democracy thwarting powers of the CIA which basically ruled it.

Many key officials have died mysteriously. Those in the know are full aware of who is responsible for these attacks. As the dollar started its inevitable slide into oblivion because of massive fraud and printing for special interests, increasing pressure on Japanese banks has been applied to exchange dollars for yen, to keep it propped up. There has been much resistance to the west in Japan, seeking its separation from the money system. We have even seen this with Russia and China, who now trade oil in something other than dollars.

What these people never knew was that God had called out the people that would have authority to overthrow the money system, and they would be caught in the transition unless the leadership calls the nation to repentance. When a people accept the ways of their corrupt lawless government, they become guilty of the same sins by way of complacency. We are seeing much of the same in America. That which is hidden will be revealed and we must be careful not to rebel against God by judging things that He may very well be sending to purge the nation of its rebellion.

This is where the facts get cloudy. There is strong evidence that these money changers, i.e. World Bankers, have used advanced weapons to target nations that were failing their obligations to the financial system (the love of money is the root of all evil). Reports are now coming out of Japan indicating that it was an attack on the fault line that borders Japan. We know there are several technologies that can activate a fault, we just don't know for sure it was used here or why at this time. Photos and video are starting to pop up.

It appears that the system is breaking up from the inside as a result of the declaration of the jubilee by the overcomers last year. It is not going to get better for a while as the system struggles for its last breath, but it will not recover until the Kingdom comes.
So Mystery Babylon does fall into three parts as it states in Revelation. This will happen both in the spiritual realm and the natural realm. Right now, the banking system is seeking to flee the dollar for a new defacto world currency. Our best understanding will be the Iraqi Dinar, as they are preparing to loot Iraq of its natural resources through money changing. These resources, virtually untapped, are the underpinning of the new Iraqi Dinar.

Most of the Babylonian nations are holding vast amounts of these dinar already in their treasuries, and will profit wildly when the Dinar revalues in a few days. Under contract they cannot sell the dinar for 6 months and during that time I believe you will see the events lead up to the splitting of Mystery Babylon. That may be a rumor, but I do think that they will hold their dinars on the balance sheet to make their own currencies more attractive.

Currently the Prime Minister of Iraq is Maliki, which means "king". The night Babylon was overthrown, the king of Babylon was killed. We are watching carefully for this sign which will signal the downfall of the world money system.

When Maliki is killed or removed from office, the nation will split into three nations, the Kurds, the Shiites, and the Sunni's. It will make the Iraqi dinar worthless overnight and the plans of the world banking systems will collapse in almost an instant. Since all these nations are now HEAVILY invested in the dinar, they will then be sitting on piles of worthless fiat paper with nothing to underpin their own money.

Any non-commodity backed currency will fail quickly because of the Babylonian debt system. If Japan was actually attacked with an advanced weapon as some say it was, then we truly understand that the system is failing and God is bringing forth the kingdom as promised.

You will never again make this kind of money this fast I think, but you must be wise. Not my intent to lecture, but we are entering an unprecedented time and this will be the largest transfer of wealth in world history as governments scramble to prop up their failing currencies through the revaluation of dinar.

First let's understand that the US dollar has been weakening. Although commodity prices have recently strengthened, more than half of that increase has been because of the failing dollar. This is important. We have said for a couple of years that oil insiders have been saying that the bankers are looking for a new world currency to go to since the USD has been spent into oblivion. Both the Euro and Yen have been growing showing signs that this change is close. I will explain..

As the printing press at the Fed is running day and night (actually it is electronically done now) the dollar suffers from excess spending. The more available the dollar becomes, the less value it has in general. However, until now, the banks have mopped up all the extra liquidity to pay for their gambling debts (derivatives) and that has kept the currency off of main street. If this money had gone into circulation, it would have resulted in high inflation and ultimately the loss of control over debts owed to the system. This is the reason why mom and pop never got a dime in the bail out.

The main issue now is that the cost of servicing the debt is so high. To have money to spend and keep things propped up, you have to cut spending, raise taxes, or sell off assets. None of these things are popular and that is the catch 22 the government is in. The time it would take to correct this situation is very long... longer than one term in office, therefore no politician will waste their time being a lame duck. So, they are looking for a quick fix... Thus enter the dinar.

The 000 on the notes you hold was put there on purpose... in fact for this purpose. The planners of this process knew that eventually they would revalue the dinar and be able to use the instant millions to write off debt. It was perfect because Iraq had so many resources to underpin the currency and with the help of the IMF and others, they could force this thing to happen in a quick way. The players have been put in place and we should see the announcement soon enough. How soon, I will not say, but the news is really good from what I understand now.

Ok, so the earthquake and tsunami is playing a role, probably to bring this process home sooner. The largest creditor to the US is China at like $2 Trillion cash (but whose counting?), and the second largest is Japan. Japan has a very high debt load. Some say a larger percentage than the US, but I think we are better at hiding it than they are. This is key. When the catastrophe happened, it forced Japan to start to sell their US treasury holdings which dumped the dollar and made the Yen high in demand. It has really shot up, so much that the FED stepped in this week to prevent a further slide of the dollar.

On Friday, we saw some stop gap measures take place, but I see that the dollar is trading at 80.8 yen. The last time I was in Tokyo seveal years ago, the dollar was like 114 Yen... It is really weak. So Japan's debt is 192% of its gross domestic product. It will need to continue to sell US treasuries to finance its restructuring and rebuilding. The pressure on the dollar will cause them to move quickly on the dinar. They are coming to a point where they have to get this done.

When it revalues, there will be an opposite high demand for the dollar for a short time, because everyone will want US currency to spend. This will drive the price of the dollar upwards for a while. It will fool many economists into thinking the dollar is recovering as a world currency. Commodity prices will correspondingly drop. For those of you thinking precious metal will be a good investment, timing will be critical. The price will soon drop because of the revalue and then it will skyrocket as many seek to protect their holdings.

You know now it is coming, so plan accordingly. Intell is now saying that there will be a drop in commodity prices in the next three weeks.. Hold on to your shorts... it is going to be a bumpy ride.
To those who read this comment, know without a doubt that the Lord has placed people in the world to carry out the transition to the kingdom. For this to happen the dollar must be removed as the instrument that enslaves people. The kingdom economy is very close. Don't get caught in the trap of believing your money is safe in the US dollar. It is risky at best. If it is true that the treasury is holding much dinar, and why wouldn't it be, then it would not be surprising that they get caught holding the bag.

We shall see.

Folks this is going to happen, but making it to revalue is only half the battle.

You must secure your return afterwards.

Could you spend a million dollars in a day?

You may get the chance to find out.."


















I found this also as a comment that showed another one that was also printed about the same time.

Off of Dr Stephen jones website: 4/11/12
For nearly two years I have believed that we would see this revaluation occur on a date associated with barley, because it is linked to the 9th miracle-sign of Elisha (2 Kings 4:42-44). Sunday, April 8, was the time of the wave-sheaf offering of barley, so it could be that decisions were made on that day to facilitate this.

An alternative view would be that it might happen around May 6, since that is the first Sunday after the Second Passover (as per Numbers 9). I am unaware of any other "barley" dates between now and then. It would seem logical that this current power struggle could take a few weeks to fully manifest in the political scene. If so, this could come to a climax in early May
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The MP in the article above indicates that when Barzani arrives home in Kurdistan, then the final war will begin to remove Maliki from power. I do not know precisely when Barzani will be back in Kurdistan, but it is something that we ought to watch carefully. And because the revaluation ought to occur just prior to his overthrow, we really could see the currency RV any time between now and then from that standpoint.

Up to now, I have focused more upon a single day of "barley," when in fact, it could be a season of "barley harvest" as well. Barley harvest goes from the wave-sheaf offering to Pentecost, or "wheat harvest," which is seven weeks later. Recall that Ruth gleaned in the field of Boaz "until the end of the barley harvest and the wheat harvest" (Ruth 2:23). We know that barley harvest took many weeks to accomplish.

2 Kings 4:42, however, speaks of the 9th sign of Elisha as occurring precisely on the day of the wave-sheaf offering: "Now a man came from Baalshalishah, and brought the man of God bread of the first fruits, twenty loaves of barley and fresh ears of grain in his sack." This is what the prophet used to multiply the bread, even as Jesus also multiplied the barley bread in John 6 at the time of Passover and wave-sheaf offering.

The revaluation of the dinar, I believe, represents the multiplication of the barley bread. I don't know for sure if this must occur on a wave-sheaf offering, but we could extend this to the season of barley harvest. May I remind you, too, that the dinar was mentioned in John 6:7 just before Jesus multiplied the barley. Philip took one look at the multitude, and said, "Two hundred denarii worth of bread is not sufficient for them, for everyone to receive a little."

That word denarii is the old word from which dinar and (Spanish) dinero are derived today. To me, it is a not-so-hidden link between the modern dinar and the multiplication of the barley in John 6 and in 2 Kings 4.
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Post by gmahunni Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:57 am

BLESS you for summarizing this, Just Da Truth! Let him who has ears to hear, HEAR!

I encourage ALL of you to read through this very carefully. It contains VOLUMES of Revelation and Truth that is now being revealed on a more widespread scale. The time has come for us to awaken from our slumber and recognize what has been going on, both physically and spiritually.

Dr. Jones has many good teachings on these things, as well as a history of what the Overcomers have been doing. I encourage you to investigate as he makes all his writings available to read online for FREE and in hard copy for a small fee. Excellent teachings that I've been following for years, but the above summary is an EXCELLENT way to express what's been happening over the past several years in one post!

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