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Post by Guest Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:34 am

Removing zeros does not mean RV, and I don't know why people get enthusiastic about the removal of zeros. Nothing substantial has been provied to indicate an RV will take place, other then conjecture.

I have further concerns because of the profits to be made in selling dinar and of indications this will actually be a lop, not an RV.

Kaperoni (dinaralert.webs.com) says dinar dealers spend 600-700 dollars on 1 million dinar and sell it for 1100-1200 bucks. He adds that when the currency change takes place, many dinar dealers will close up shop because these profit margins will no longer takes place. Fast forward 102 minutes into the audio download below and hear it for yourself.

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=1268719-17-6
5-67-17-65-6779-54-1281741274183221416;0NDQ3Mjk5NTk=1


Kaperoni himself read an article from a Kurdish newspaper in which it was stated that the two currencies, new and old, would be exchanged in parallel. The exchange rate of the new currency to the old will be 1:1000. Fast forward 45 minutes into the call you can download below and again, hear it for yourself:

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=-17-65-67358
5-17-65-6767351-17-65-67-17-65-67104-17-65-67672787-17-65-67-17-6
5-67;0NDQ3Mjk5NTk=1


This information was also relayed by Shannon of the IQD team (URL below):

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=-17-65-6765-17-65-6717-17-65-67-17-65-67-17-65-6730-17-65-67-17-65-67601155029-17-65-67;0Mzg1MTEzMjA=1

The original article from where this information came from can be looked up at the URL below:

www.kurdishglobe.net/display-article.html?id=3CBF63FA930E6C8FF6BBF1EDC3B7D027

This posting will not remain very long because anytime somebody says something that might interfere will dinar sales, they get their posting deleted and are sometimes kick off the website.

But these are honest legitimate concerns that any decent website will allow for consideration.

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Post by Ponee Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:03 am

John321 wrote:
Removing zeros does not mean RV, and I don't know why people get enthusiastic about the removal of zeros. Nothing substantial has been provied to indicate an RV will take place, other then conjecture.

I have further concerns because of the profits to be made in selling dinar and of indications this will actually be a lop, not an RV.

Kaperoni (dinaralert.webs.com) says dinar dealers spend 600-700 dollars on 1 million dinar and sell it for 1100-1200 bucks. He adds that when the currency change takes place, many dinar dealers will close up shop because these profit margins will no longer takes place. Fast forward 102 minutes into the audio download below and hear it for yourself.

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=1268719-17-6
5-67-17-65-6779-54-1281741274183221416;0NDQ3Mjk5NTk=1


Kaperoni himself read an article from a Kurdish newspaper in which it was stated that the two currencies, new and old, would be exchanged in parallel. The exchange rate of the new currency to the old will be 1:1000. Fast forward 45 minutes into the call you can download below and again, hear it for yourself:

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=-17-65-67358
5-17-65-6767351-17-65-67-17-65-67104-17-65-67672787-17-65-67-17-6
5-67;0NDQ3Mjk5NTk=1


This information was also relayed by Shannon of the IQD team (URL below):

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=-17-65-6765-17-65-6717-17-65-67-17-65-67-17-65-6730-17-65-67-17-65-67601155029-17-65-67;0Mzg1MTEzMjA=1

The original article from where this information came from can be looked up at the URL below:

www.kurdishglobe.net/display-article.html?id=3CBF63FA930E6C8FF6BBF1EDC3B7D027

This posting will not remain very long because anytime somebody says something that might interfere will dinar sales, they get their posting deleted and are sometimes kick off the website.

But these are honest legitimate concerns that any decent website will allow for consideration.



No, This post will not be deleted because it "interferes with dinar sales". Posts are NEVER deleted and people are NEVER banned for giving information on this part of the forum. Mods have no vested interest in sales. We receive NO compensation for sales. As long as information is presented in a mature fashion, such as yours it stays. Did you call names no, did you spew garbage language no.... You presented your information intelligently, respectfully and with links. Deletion and banning occurs only with the info and members who are just plain ignorant in their presentations.

You all see an entire thread go to the basket and think it was because of the information presented. It isn't. It is usually basketed because of the other posts that follow that deviate fromt he information and go to the extreme of name calling, aggressive langauge, nasty innuendos.

Intelligent information and conversation is not removed from here unless the members turn it sideways.

But as for this post itself, it will stay. Now let's see what happens with the rest of the thread today.

I am rooting for good intelligent discussion!!!



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Post by GoodGosh Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:48 am

or that mention the words: Nesara, Prosperity Programs, Global Settlements, White Hats, White Knights, White Dragons, Dark Cabal.....

Did I get most of them?

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Post by 1alaskan Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:52 am

@GoodGosh wrote:or that mention the words: Nesara, Prosperity Programs, Global Settlements, White Hats, White Knights, White Dragons, Dark Cabal.....

Did I get most of them?

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But very interesting post anyway!



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Post by bigdaddytim Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:54 am

I am still waiting to see my settlement check from the diamond guys. It's not fair that I have to work for my money. It simply ain't fair!!!


Where's my entitlement?????

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Post by Ponee Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:21 pm

@GoodGosh wrote:or that mention the words: Nesara, Prosperity Programs, Global Settlements, White Hats, White Knights, White Dragons, Dark Cabal.....

Did I get most of them?

Some must see information--to think about 761671673

But very interesting post anyway!



His is dinar related... many of those other topics you mentioned are not

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Post by zonepirate Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:28 pm

John321 wrote:Removing zeros does not mean RV, and I don't know why people get enthusiastic about the removal of zeros. Nothing substantial has been provied to indicate an RV will take place, other then conjecture.

I have further concerns because of the profits to be made in selling dinar and of indications this will actually be a lop, not an RV.

Kaperoni (dinaralert.webs.com) says dinar dealers spend 600-700 dollars on 1 million dinar and sell it for 1100-1200 bucks. He adds that when the currency change takes place, many dinar dealers will close up shop because these profit margins will no longer takes place. Fast forward 102 minutes into the audio download below and hear it for yourself.

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=1268719-17-6
5-67-17-65-6779-54-1281741274183221416;0NDQ3Mjk5NTk=1


Kaperoni himself read an article from a Kurdish newspaper in which it was stated that the two currencies, new and old, would be exchanged in parallel. The exchange rate of the new currency to the old will be 1:1000. Fast forward 45 minutes into the call you can download below and again, hear it for yourself:

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=-17-65-67358
5-17-65-6767351-17-65-67-17-65-67104-17-65-67672787-17-65-67-17-6
5-67;0NDQ3Mjk5NTk=1


This information was also relayed by Shannon of the IQD team (URL below):

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=-17-65-6765-17-65-6717-17-65-67-17-65-67-17-65-6730-17-65-67-17-65-67601155029-17-65-67;0Mzg1MTEzMjA=1

The original article from where this information came from can be looked up at the URL below:

www.kurdishglobe.net/display-article.html?id=3CBF63FA930E6C8FF6BBF1EDC3B7D027

This posting will not remain very long because anytime somebody says something that might interfere will dinar sales, they get their posting deleted and are sometimes kick off the website.

But these are honest legitimate concerns that any decent website will allow for consideration.

This is something me and several others have been concerned about for some time now. You may get labeled a "neggie" along with the rest of us "Loppers" but the Mods won't delete a post just because they don't agree with the contents. If you will read back there are several threads that discuss these same concerns. Kaperoni said in a past post that he had evidence that a LOP would not occur but he seems to be more open to the idea now

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Post by PrudenceArt Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:48 pm

IF IT LOPS there will be more in the world to worry about than money..Everything that we hold near and dear wil crash

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Post by chevysteve Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:48 pm

Please disregard all the above information........



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Post by Kevind53 Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:30 pm

Now may be a good time to discuss what seems to be a common misconception. Many seem to think that because they stop seeing a thread we have deleted it. At times we do move a post out of public view, usually because it is insulting or demeaning. Most times however, it disappears because people have simply stopped commenting upon it. It's still there, but it has dropped down the list and eventually to a different page. That's all ... as simple as it gets and conspiracy free! Twisted Evil

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Post by GoodGosh Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:20 am

@ponee wrote:
@GoodGosh wrote:or that mention the words: Nesara, Prosperity Programs, Global Settlements, White Hats, White Knights, White Dragons, Dark Cabal.....

Did I get most of them?

Some must see information--to think about 761671673

But very interesting post anyway!


His is dinar related... many of those other topics you mentioned are not

Just clarifying for the chap what is not acceptable here at OOM! No worries.
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Post by Ponee Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:32 pm

@GoodGosh wrote:
@ponee wrote:
@GoodGosh wrote:or that mention the words: Nesara, Prosperity Programs, Global Settlements, White Hats, White Knights, White Dragons, Dark Cabal.....

Did I get most of them?

Some must see information--to think about 761671673

But very interesting post anyway!


His is dinar related... many of those other topics you mentioned are not

Just clarifying for the chap what is not acceptable here at OOM! No worries.

No worries... Very Happy

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Post by dp Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:45 pm

John321 wrote:Removing zeros does not mean RV, and I don't know why people get enthusiastic about the removal of zeros. Nothing substantial has been provied to indicate an RV will take place, other then conjecture.

I have further concerns because of the profits to be made in selling dinar and of indications this will actually be a lop, not an RV.

Kaperoni (dinaralert.webs.com) says dinar dealers spend 600-700 dollars on 1 million dinar and sell it for 1100-1200 bucks. He adds that when the currency change takes place, many dinar dealers will close up shop because these profit margins will no longer takes place. Fast forward 102 minutes into the audio download below and hear it for yourself.

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=1268719-17-6
5-67-17-65-6779-54-1281741274183221416;0NDQ3Mjk5NTk=1


Kaperoni himself read an article from a Kurdish newspaper in which it was stated that the two currencies, new and old, would be exchanged in parallel. The exchange rate of the new currency to the old will be 1:1000. Fast forward 45 minutes into the call you can download below and again, hear it for yourself:

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=-17-65-67358
5-17-65-6767351-17-65-67-17-65-67104-17-65-67672787-17-65-67-17-6
5-67;0NDQ3Mjk5NTk=1


This information was also relayed by Shannon of the IQD team (URL below):

www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback.html?n=-17-65-6765-17-65-6717-17-65-67-17-65-67-17-65-6730-17-65-67-17-65-67601155029-17-65-67;0Mzg1MTEzMjA=1

The original article from where this information came from can be looked up at the URL below:

www.kurdishglobe.net/display-article.html?id=3CBF63FA930E6C8FF6BBF1EDC3B7D027

This posting will not remain very long because anytime somebody says something that might interfere will dinar sales, they get their posting deleted and are sometimes kick off the website.

But these are honest legitimate concerns that any decent website will allow for consideration.


No worry. No one will buy anymore Dinar. We learned and we don't believe in any of their BS anymore. We all know that most Gurus is receiving % kick back from the exchanger.

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Post by Kevind53 Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:30 pm

@dp wrote:
No worry. No one will buy anymore Dinar. We learned and we don't believe in any of their BS anymore. We all know that most Gurus is receiving % kick back from the exchanger.

No we don't know that, and I would suggest that unless you can prove it, you do not say it.

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Don't play the slander/libel definition game either, you know what is meant. Consider this a warning.

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Post by LookingAtTheHeavens Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:52 pm

How many warnings can a person get? Ever since he supposedly sold all his Dinar, he just just keeps coming back and talking trash. At least this stuff doesn't fly in chat.
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Post by milleriniraq Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:59 pm

With all due respect, it's hard to even call that a chat. I said one word last night about a 1 for 1 exchange, agreeing with another poster, and I was called into a private chat and told specifically that it won't be tolerated because Okie said so. This is what a chat mod said to me! There was no disrespect, no addressing anyone, I even said it was good for everybody to form their own opinion. You see the problem is the double standard. People are told "this is a family", we all are "christian brothers and sisters" but the truth is something far different. When Okie is telling mods that a 1 to 1 can't even be mentioned, the chat has changed from a place to exchange and discuss ideas to a propaganda machine. I don't know what the reason is but it's never good. At least in the forum, it's not that way.

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Post by Kevind53 Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:19 pm

@milleriniraq wrote:With all due respect, it's hard to even call that a chat. I said one word last night about a 1 for 1 exchange, agreeing with another poster, and I was called into a private chat and told specifically that it won't be tolerated because Okie said so. This is what a chat mod said to me! There was no disrespect, no addressing anyone, I even said it was good for everybody to form their own opinion. You see the problem is the double standard. People are told "this is a family", we all are "christian brothers and sisters" but the truth is something far different. When Okie is telling mods that a 1 to 1 can't even be mentioned, the chat has changed from a place to exchange and discuss ideas to a propaganda machine. I don't know what the reason is but it's never good. At least in the forum, it's not that way.

We have no authority over in chat, so my best suggestion would be to PM Miske with your concerns.

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Post by Kevind53 Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:22 pm

@LookingAtTheHeavens wrote:How many warnings can a person get? Ever since he supposedly sold all his Dinar, he just just keeps coming back and talking trash. At least this stuff doesn't fly in chat.

Well we do try to give people the benefit of the doubt, or as they used to say in the old west, enough rope to hang themselves. And unfortunately, that type usually does. He pushed a little too hard and is now on vacation.

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Post by Keys Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:38 pm

Kaperoni chat
03/06/2012 4:00pm CST

Today’s chat is a dinar chat. I know I will get bashed for trying to put a finger on this, but I wanted to do so to give everyone a sense of reality. I pulled some great information together to clear up the picture.

kaperoni: Your going to love this!
kaperoni: Let’s get started…First Article…

kaperoni: New banknotes to be introduced in September:Iraqi Parliament to introduce the new banknotes in September 2012

kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: "According to the agreements, the new bill will be printed by a European company and introduced to the market gradually and in a well-planned schedule to ensure it will not result in shocks and would not have a negative impact on the market," explained MP Khalil. He added the exchange rate between the new banknotes and the old ones would be 1:1,000.”

kaperoni: This is extremely powerful statement.
kaperoni: . I was thinking about this today…1:1000.

kaperoni: Let me tell you exactly what they are saying here. This is telling us no LOP or re-denomination is going to happen. Because they are telling you the difference between the “old and new banknotes” In order for this to be true, the notes have to be honored at the printed face value. If for example a LOP or re-denomination occurred (changing the value), they would state the exchange rate between the new and old notes would be 1:1 meaning they now have the same value or a neutral event. But that is not the case. They are clearly stating 1:1000.
kaperoni: Next quote….

kaperoni: “The objective behind this move is to appreciate the value of the Iraqi dinar against the U.S. dollar, which would in turn increase the balance of the Iraqi dinar and there would be sufficient reserves of that currency," explained MP Khalil. “

kaperoni: Clearly this statement confirms what I just stated….that the dinar is appreciating (RV). This is confirmation of the revaluation!

kaperoni: Next article….
kaperoni: Financial expert: dinar was equal to the dollar over the next two years, thanks to the policy of the Central Bank
kaperoni: Quote…

kaperoni: “The Central Bank earlier announced that the near-level policy work to stabilize the dinar to US dollar while at the intermediate level and leveling will near dinar against the dollar.”

kaperoni: This is another great quote…we get a few “keys” here. 1. The rate will be near the dollar. 2. The CBI calls this the “intermediate level” clearly implying there will be another level. There is no specific timeframe mentioned for that higher level.

kaperoni: Next article…

kaperoni: Raise zeros from the Iraqi currency at a seminar center Mustansiriya
kaperoni: This Symposium just occurred on February 27th . That was just 9 days ago.

kaperoni: Quote…
kaperoni: “the issue of maintaining the value of the currency after rename (lifting of the zeroes),”

kaperoni: .
kaperoni: I love this quote. They realize the “delete 3 zeros” is also confusing to the Iraqi people so they refer to this event now as “lifting of the zeros”. Huge difference and confirms what we been saying all along. That this event is merely a transition, a collection of larger notes, rate change and new lower notes. Next quote…

kaperoni: “…as well as its role in enhancing the confidence of the citizen and investor in the national economy, especially with the continued effectiveness monetary policy to control inflation within acceptable levels, as well as the stability of the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar.”


Kaperoni: This quote tells us more of the plan…that this event will encourage Iraqi’s to use the dinar, the investor to participate in the economy, but more importantly, it gives the CBI the tools to continue the “effectiveness” of the monetary policy and “control” inflation. Clearly, Shabibi’s policy has been effective and successful.

kaperoni: Next quote…

kaperoni: “At the end of his speech made ​​by Dr. Rawi audience with astonishment when I get out of his bag transparent portfolio contains several versions of the coin of the Iraqi dinar category…”

kaperoni: Well this tells us they have coins ready. Or at least samples to show. My thought is they have them ready to come out.

Last quote is a longer one…
kaperoni: .
kaperoni: “The positive effects of other process of change and delete the zeros referred to by the researcher is to end the phenomenon (dollarization) in the daily dealings,
The researcher concluded the preparation of the Iraqi Central Bank's strategy long-term viable future, when the availability of the appropriate opportunity and gradually according to clear instructions and regulations, guidelines provide protection for the rights and interests in line and the stage of prosperity coming and expected economic growth; to increase the average per capita income in the coming years to more than once , in addition to what it takes to progress from the Iraqi economy, steps to repair the waste stages of inflation, in particular the issuance of some legislation in this regard.”

kaperoni: I will break this down into 3 parts…

kaperoni: This “lifting of the zeros” will have a “positive effect” and will end the problem with “dollarization”. That simply means the rate has to be over 1 to 1. Again, as mentioned above, it supports just over 1 to 1 (1.17 to $1). There is no arguing about a .10 cent rate. Or even a .25 cent rate. This statement tells you clearly, that just 10 days ago they told the Iraqi people, it will end the issue with dollarization.

kaperoni: The next part of that statement is also amazing…they are telling the Iraqi people this event (stage) will bring “prosperity” and “economic growth.”

kaperoni: You also see they mention the overall result will be the Iraqi economy, fix inflation issues, etc.

kaperoni: Very forthcoming, very direct...
kaperoni: Great stuff and very telling information. Were very close to this event happening.
kaperoni: Done
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Post by Kevind53 Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:16 pm

:cheers: :cheers:

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Post by IQD4US Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:33 pm

He explains it so much more directly than I - hurray. I am not the only one who thinks this way, I just worded it differently and during a period of frustration at people being thrown into a state of confusion by all the different phrases and interpretations.

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Post by fs747623 Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:42 pm

READ MY LIPS, "NO LOP". Iraq is doing much much better than a lop or any fear formula.

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Post by GoodGosh Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:16 pm

@fs747623 wrote:READ MY LIPS, "NO LOP". Iraq is doing much much better than a lop or any fear formula.

Agreeeeed! Lopsters go home to your cushion. Iraq will rock this and roll your world!
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