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Post by dbara43 Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:11 pm

I appreciate most of what SG has to say in this one, with a couple of exceptions. One is that I don't believe in the $1+ or 1:1 rate. I believe this is merely the EXCHANGE rate for converting dollars to dinars once the de-dollarization process starts inside Iraq. The internationally traded rate will be higher. How much higher? I don't know, but I doubt it will be less than the 3.22-3.86 RI rate.

What about the $12.36 rate? It could be that high for a couple of weeks before settling back down to a $5-$7 stable rate if the world-wide RV rumors are true.

Lastly, I disagree with the "sit back and let the RV come to you" philospophy. There are so many out there hurting, struggling, who came to this investment as a last resort, that hearing mods or gurus telling us that repeatedly provides no comfort. So if you're feeling that way, please keep it to yourself. Those of us who are struggling needed this RV months ago, and my heart and prayers go out to those who need it now.

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Post by Terbo56 Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:20 pm

Dbara43- Thank you-Some of us do appreciate you- no worries there-I'm in the hole so deep, they can't pump light to me- I'm feeling like a truffle, if you know what I mean-Smile
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Post by SEBtopdog Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:27 pm

Hi dbara43: First, I love your avatar. Loved the movie, too.

I had a little different take on what Scotti G said about sitting back and letting the RV come to us. To me it seemed like he was saying not to be too hard on yourself. It is SO HARD to wait!!!! But there's nothing else we can do. So if you can occupy yourself with other things some of the time, then it may not seem to take so long. And if you can enjoy yourself in the meantime, so much the better. It breaks my heart to read some of the people's stories and how much folks are hurting. So we try to be here for each other in some small way.

Take care, and try to do at least one thing for yourself today that's just FUN! ☀

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:29 pm

Come rv!

Can you cut and paste what scotti g. Said in this thread.

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Post by doodoo Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:31 pm

You asked for it! I for one am glad to see a reasonable and sane Guru post here!

For weeks now my sources have indicated that we are so close to the end of this
adjustment in rates. As frustrating as it is to wait, what choice do any of us
have? Over the last several weeks I have refrained from voicing my thoughts
about the amazing volume of idiotic claims of RV’s in Iraq and RV today at such
and such a time or tonight after this time. On and on the nonsense is repeated
time and time again. When I became so much more aware of many of the complexities
of this process last August/September, I realized the need to be much more
careful with the information I was receiving and how I handled it. You might
wonder why I would take this approach. It became evident that many people are being
fed misinformation so that we as investors would not have clear insight to the
final stages of this process.


I
could tell you about the security efforts that have gone on but I dare not elaborate.
Just know that much of the delays can be attributed to our safety and that of
the world. Intelligence entities from around the globe have been most diligent
to identify and neutralize the currency that has ended up in the hands of bad
people and countries. I know there are many claims of Settlements and Packages
for governments and others but I am not there. I do have access to much of
their information and I just cannot subscribe to this ‘school of thought’. The information I process on a daily basis
covers a wide array of areas from political to financial and I work very hard
to separate the truth from fiction.



So
here is where I believe we are today. The budget is going to be implemented on
March 1. Embedded in that budget are two key elements. The Erbil agreement
which was completed and agreed to a while ago is set to be implemented when the
Budget is implemented. So too is the HCL. This was completed awhile ago but
unbeknownst to me the implementation of this is also contingent on the
implementation of the Budget! So what does all this mean? I believe it is
pointing us to the end of this investment. What this does for Iraq is HUGE. I
have heard from an extremely well placed source that everything is in place.
This individual agrees with my assessment that the end is March 1 and we should
see this by or before then. I wish I could guarantee the end of this but having
come this far with this investment, I do not think anyone with a lick of sense
should claim that any thing is certain or completed until we are at the bank.



Based
on many of the signs and statements we have witnessed recently and based upon
the facts surrounding the implementation of the budget, I believe we really could
see the RV very soon and maybe even this week. Take into account that this is
Iraq and they will do what they need to do for themselves. They did confirm
this week that the USD will now be treated as foreign currency! This is a great
sign and gives us cause for anticipation. I understand that we may likely see a much
smaller group of countries adjusting the value of their currency. Yes this
includes Vietnam and Kuwait.



I
have heard the rumors from some of the purveyors of information of $ 10 and $12
rates. I am still hearing some talk about the rates will be to the GBP. I
assure you that these people making such claims are not giving accurate
information. I have tried to be a voice of reason but we are still responsible
for what we receive and accept. I do have strong reason to believe that the
initial release could come in just above $1 for a short period as it quickly floats
up in the currency markets by the professional traders. Now it is possible that
the rates could reach as high as $8 for a very short time and then settle back
to a fixed rate near to the Kuwaiti Dinar. We will not know just how the
Treasury rate will be handled and I believe we need to be prudent and patient
once we see this currency go live in the markets. It is just as possible that
the currency opens up in the $7 range and fluctuates for a short bit and then
settle down to the KWD value range. What I am trying to say is that until it
happens, we will not know what we need to do. On another note, I do know that
some screens related to the Treasury indicate a rate and the word ‘PENDING’
next to it. This is only a hold rate not an active rate. The rate will
certainly change when it goes live!



I
truly wish that all those who are weekly calling the RV done would keep their
misinformation to themselves! Oh you think it is not misinformation? Then did
Iraq RV in-country a few weeks ago? Nope. Did you go to the bank in the last 2
weeks and cash in? Not yet. Hmmmmm.



I hope everyone who reads this post will take
the time to look at what I have said today and sit back and let the RV come to
you. I know I have been saying this for over a year now but it really is
important for each of our well being to take a step back from the fray of the
nonsense that abounds so greatly in the forums and chat rooms.

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Post by Peppermint Patti Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:13 pm

Thank you for posting this Doo Doo..

Very well explained, very sound information and now for hopefully, "one last time" may the illusive RV come to us now...

What an exciting thought and you know what? Sooooo many people and Countries are going to be blessed by this occasion that we will be able to rejoice for the multitude of blessings to so many. Whether a person has many or few this blessing should be big enough to change everyone's life for the better.

I thank God for including me in this and you also. To Him be the Glory forever, Amen and Amen...

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Post by doodoo Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:18 pm

So the real Peppermint comes out in your new sig, eh, PP?

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Post by Ponee Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:20 pm

Wow, look at PP go!

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Post by therealbutterfly Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:32 pm


I
truly wish that all those who are weekly calling the RV done would keep their
misinformation to themselves! Oh you think it is not misinformation? Then did
Iraq RV in-country a few weeks ago? Nope. Did you go to the bank in the last 2
weeks and cash in? Not yet. Hmmmmm.

So when Scotti states that okie is spreading misinformation, its ok but when other members do they get in trouble or told to stop being negative..... Wink

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Post by mabysomeday Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:56 pm

@therealbutterfly wrote:

I
truly wish that all those who are weekly calling the RV done would keep their
misinformation to themselves! Oh you think it is not misinformation? Then did
Iraq RV in-country a few weeks ago? Nope. Did you go to the bank in the last 2
weeks and cash in? Not yet. Hmmmmm.

So when Scotti states that okie is spreading misinformation, its ok but when other members do they get in trouble or told to stop being negative..... Wink

I've been trying to mentally resolve that paragraph as well - seems like Scotti G is totally saying that the Wingmen are totally off the mark....Hmmmmm....
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Post by SEBtopdog Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:11 pm

@therealbutterfly wrote:

I
truly wish that all those who are weekly calling the RV done would keep their
misinformation to themselves! Oh you think it is not misinformation? Then did
Iraq RV in-country a few weeks ago? Nope. Did you go to the bank in the last 2
weeks and cash in? Not yet. Hmmmmm.

So when Scotti states that okie is spreading misinformation, its ok but when other members do they get in trouble or told to stop being negative..... Wink

You do have a point there, TRB, but he's a wingman, isn't he? I'm a little confused.....and not afraid to admit it. :geek:

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Post by SEBtopdog Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:12 pm

Peppermint Patti -- You go, girl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great RV happy dance!

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Post by Potato Head Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:20 pm

@therealbutterfly wrote:

I
truly wish that all those who are weekly calling the RV done would keep their
misinformation to themselves! Oh you think it is not misinformation? Then did
Iraq RV in-country a few weeks ago? Nope. Did you go to the bank in the last 2
weeks and cash in? Not yet. Hmmmmm.

So when Scotti states that okie is spreading misinformation, its ok but when other members do they get in trouble or told to stop being negative..... Wink


Def NOT trying to cause any problems here folks but I totally agree with TRB on this one. Also, Thanks Scotty for your post too. Well said!!
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Post by HeadNotTheTail Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:29 pm

I Have no Cool smileys , No cool dancing Avatars and to be quite Honest with you I am a little intimidated by it.. [b]
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Post by CaptnJerry Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:31 pm

@therealbutterfly wrote:

I
truly wish that all those who are weekly calling the RV done would keep their
misinformation to themselves! Oh you think it is not misinformation? Then did
Iraq RV in-country a few weeks ago? Nope. Did you go to the bank in the last 2
weeks and cash in? Not yet. Hmmmmm.

So when Scotti states that okie is spreading misinformation, its ok but when other members do they get in trouble or told to stop being negative..... Wink

Or you get banned for basically saying the same thing, like I just saw happen in another thread... Scotti G Post Sad-face

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Post by therealbutterfly Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:33 pm

I actually agree with scottig for once. He has started doing what I asked him to do after the whole "kuwait rv'd the other day at $4.08" nonsense and holds back things now til he can prove things better. HE now says that he has to be more careful because of the misinformation out there and thankfully he thinks before he speaks now. I dont see as many people jumping on his or bears info like before when they would claim things. They realize that when they say things, people believe it and it COULD end up hurting people if its wrong. So I say KUDOS scottig!!!!! And THANK YOU!!!!!!

Thats my point with what I said the other day with okie and bulldog. There is no need to be 'first' on anything if its NOT TRUE. And when Bulldog came on and had to clarify that OKIE was the one that called it first and dont ever forget it, shows me that its more about ego than who is actually right.

In these desperate economic times, people are NEEDING this to happen more than ever. And its careless and thoughtless to get people hyped up when its not true. And sorry, but verifying with 'sources' that cant do anythjing other than TELL you something is not proving anything. And it always seems to be the same few circle of gurus that verify and back each other up. Notice some of the others that base things on news articles and the govt workings NEVER seem to be the ones claiming its done "in country"? IF I ever see one of the skeptics like American Contractor say its done, THEN I would believe it lol!!!!

To those that say people are complaining but never sharing info thats because the info we USED to share was wrong too, so we stopped. So far my 'intel' has been opposite of what the gurus say and if I shared it, you guys would keep sayin I am negative and full of it. AND it does no good to share things that I personally cant verify. Its just comments from my friends at the UN and in the military etc. And they were wrong before so who knows what is really true.

So all in all, SURE it would be a much quieter site and the forums would be dead if there was no 'intel' being shared but it might be better for everyone. People wouldnt be spending their time watching and waiting, not sleeping because 'today is the day', or spending their last dime to get more because 'its working thru the system and can pop any min'. I dont think thats a bad thing. JMHO
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Post by Kevind53 Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:25 pm

@Peppermint Patti wrote:Thank you for posting this Doo Doo..

Very well explained, very sound information and now for hopefully, "one last time" may the illusive RV come to us now...

What an exciting thought and you know what? Sooooo many people and Countries are going to be blessed by this occasion that we will be able to rejoice for the multitude of blessings to so many. Whether a person has many or few this blessing should be big enough to change everyone's life for the better.

I thank God for including me in this and you also. To Him be the Glory forever, Amen and Amen...

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Now that is one scary gal! affraid

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Post by Kevind53 Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:31 pm

For the record, if you go back and read Scotti's post, he didn't bash, He didn't attack, call names, or for that matter name names. He disagreed, and laid out his reasons in a civil and respectful manner. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It has been said more than once here it's OK to disagree, just be respectful when you do it. After all isn't that what you would expect if someone disagreed with you?

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Post by aksafeone Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:33 pm

Nice lady Peppermint Patti!!! Now if you can get her to "SING" the RV song, WE will have it made. And to quote Lawrence Welk "An a 1 an a 2 an a TURN OFF THE BUBBLE MACHINE!!" ok. once again: "an a 1 an a 2 --- "
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Post by Terbo56 Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:34 pm

Kevind53- My sentiments exactly-:cheers:
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Post by chevysteve Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:43 pm

Does it really matter to anybody here who calls the RV (accurately) first?? Seriously??

I can say that IF and I mean IF this thing does RV at lets just say 2 to 1, that gives me $4 MIL USD less taxes. When I go to the bank to cash in and the bank teller asks me who called the RV first, I probably won't remember..........Or Care!!!
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Post by Terbo56 Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:48 pm

That's the spirit!!:cheers:
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Post by chevysteve Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:03 pm

Thanks Terbo!!! It's good to be back, I needed a break.

By the way, don't tell 1alaskan I'm back, I need to stay under the radar for a little while.

affraid Wink Wink Just kidding!!



1alaskan, I know you're out there somewhere but, I'm gonna be good :(
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Post by SEBtopdog Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:08 pm

@HeadNotTheTail wrote:I Have no Cool smileys , No cool dancing Avatars and to be quite Honest with you I am a little intimidated by it..



You don't NEED the cool smileys, HNTT. You are Super Kitty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Scotti G Post 949729897

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Post by dinarstar Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:14 pm

chevy,
when the teller hands me dollars4dinar I WILL worry about that call...
the one the bank makes to the funny farm...
because I will be jiving around that banking court and whooping my head off like a crazy peeps!

🙇 crazyspin :happyjoy: wreckless happydance hug run party time

...and a great big....

:yes: :yes: :yes:

PS...I just PM'd 1alaskan Laughing

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Post by Terbo56 Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:18 pm

Dinarstar- Maybe a couple of strong Irish Coffee's may be in order, just about then!!Laughing lol! Scotti G Post 3091836158 Scotti G Post 949729897
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Post by dinarstar Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:21 pm

You are soooo right terbo....REALLLLY strong :drunken:

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Post by Guest Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:25 pm

Thanks for posting what scotti g. Said. Seems like good info.

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Post by therealbutterfly Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:34 pm

@Kevind53 wrote:For the record, if you go back and read Scotti's post, he didn't bash, He didn't attack, call names, or for that matter name names. He disagreed, and laid out his reasons in a civil and respectful manner. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It has been said more than once here it's OK to disagree, just be respectful when you do it. After all isn't that what you would expect if someone disagreed with you?

I understand that he didnt name names nor attack per se, but other people have said the SAME exact thing, calling it "misinformation" and they get slapped or jumped on by others. I just find it interesting that no one seemed to pick up on the fact that Scottig was pretty much debunking what was stated by okie and bulldog. Or they did and didnt want to say anything... Wink
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Post by raidernick Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:18 pm

@Kevind53 wrote:For the record, if you go back and read Scotti's post, he didn't bash, He didn't attack, call names, or for that matter name names. He disagreed, and laid out his reasons in a civil and respectful manner. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It has been said more than once here it's OK to disagree, just be respectful when you do it. After all isn't that what you would expect if someone disagreed with you?



Scotti G: " the amazing volume of idiotic claims of RV’s in Iraq "

Based on the standards set by the Mods this seems a little uncivil to me and yet a completely different set of standard is applied to this individual’s opinion.

As TRB has politely pointed out, there is certainly a level of Hypocrisy here.

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Post by raidernick Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:21 pm

@terbo56 wrote:Kevind53- My sentiments exactly-:cheers:

You said : "Some of us WILL defend Okie and Bulldog 'till the cows come home" but I don't see the Mods telling Scotti if he doesn't like it here to leave etc.
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Post by fang2 Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:23 pm

Terbo, What's up????
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Post by Terbo56 Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:29 pm

Raidernick- That is there choice,and don't PUSH me tonight- You will lose-Twisted Evil
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Post by Terbo56 Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:30 pm

Hey Fang2- Just dealing with stupidity,nothing new- How about you?Very Happy
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Post by Guest Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:41 pm

@therealbutterfly wrote:
@Kevind53 wrote:For the record, if you go back and read Scotti's post, he didn't bash, He didn't attack, call names, or for that matter name names. He disagreed, and laid out his reasons in a civil and respectful manner. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It has been said more than once here it's OK to disagree, just be respectful when you do it. After all isn't that what you would expect if someone disagreed with you?

I understand that he didnt name names nor attack per se, but other people have said the SAME exact thing, calling it "misinformation" and they get slapped or jumped on by others. I just find it interesting that no one seemed to pick up on the fact that Scottig was pretty much debunking what was stated by okie and bulldog. Or they did and didnt want to say anything... Wink

I'm glad he's not a blind follower.

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Post by Terbo56 Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:50 pm

Maybe not, but some of these people are, and it's a shame that they need others to do their thinking for them- I thought people were done breast feeding by age 1? JMHO-:face:
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Post by Guest Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:10 pm

@terbo56 wrote:I thought people were done breast feeding by age 1? JMHO-:face:

lmao

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Post by 1spirit1 Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:34 pm

@terbo56 wrote:That's the spirit!!:cheers:



yes did someone call

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Post by dinarstar Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:41 pm

My!!...is that really you Wink

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Post by Kevind53 Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:58 pm

There is a line there ... yes he did use the word idiotic, but he also did not name names ... did not step into personal attacks. Did not degrade into swearing ... It's really that simple.

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Post by aksafeone Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:31 pm

It is not what one says but HOW they say it that counts.

What's the matter spirit? Your ears burning??? lol! lol! Scotti G Post 3091836158 :joker:
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Post by Jayzze Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:49 pm

everyone has there own thoughts and opinions but just because you do not agree does not give you the right to bash or slander we all can agree or disagree respectfuly
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Post by Terbo56 Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:53 pm

BINGO!!Scotti G Post 1261280965
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Post by therealbutterfly Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:07 am

@Kevind53 wrote:There is a line there ... yes he did use the word idiotic, but he also did not name names ... did not step into personal attacks. Did not degrade into swearing ... It's really that simple.

you guys are missing my point. I am not talkin about how people here get banned or whatever. I am talkin about the simple comments that bring out the wrath of some members. SOME people here say the SAME thing as Scotti did and SOME other members and SOME other mods jump all over them calling them negative or disrespectful etc. It has nothing to do with how severe the comment was, just that the comments went against what okie and bulldog said and some people just freak out and jump all over those people that are just pointing out the obvious...... Scotti can say the same exact thing as others and certain members praise him yet will jump on the regular member who said the same thing. Hope that clears it up...... Smile
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