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Post by meritu Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:14 am

Arrogance of being President while being Black



I don't think anyone was under some real illusion that the election of Barack Obama actually means the end of racism in America . I'm pretty sure that the president-elect knew it better than anyone. After all, he saw it every day, from the moment he announced his candidacy. To some degree, he saw it within his own party during the primaries. And he saw it in all ugliness during the general election. For half of this country, he was "That One". No matter how big and clear his victory was. No matter how smart he is. No matter how decent he is. No matter what a true patriot he is. No matter how optimistic and positive his vision for America was. All that didn't matter. Because at the end of the day, he was still black.
I'm quite old. I remember, vaguely, where my parents were on November 22, 1963. I've seen so many presidents. Some were feared, some were hated, some were adored, some popular and some not. But all of them, without exception, were treated with the highest respect deserving the office of the president of the United States .
That is until a black man won the right to occupy this office. It's been 13 months now, and in the eyes of so many, Barack Obama is still that one. He is being disrespected and at the same time being held to the highest standard of any president I've ever seen – and not just by the Republican side! He has to perform three times better than any president in history, and even that may not be enough.
For the media, he is many more times just "Obama" than "President Obama". They create scandals out of nothing issues. It took them at least 6 years to start giving Bush a small part of the cabbage he deserved. It took them 6 months to begin crap all over Obama because he's yet to fix the catastrophe that was left for him.
They use condescending tones when they talk about him, and only mildly less condescending when they talk TO him. With anyone else, CNN wouldn't dare go to commercials every time the president speaks, like they did during that summit on Thursday. They wouldn't dare be counting how many minutes George Bush or Bill Clinton were talking. Chris Mathews wouldn't dare make an issue out of Ronald Regan calling members of congress by their first name, like he is not actually the president. They fully cooperate with the Right-Wing smear machine when it comes to president Obama's national security performance – even if almost every independent and military expert actually thinks that he's a terrific Commander-in-Chief. You'll never see them on TV, and virtually no one from the Left, in congress and outside, defend the president on this matter.
I don't care about the Far-Right. They're just crazy ignorant Neanderthals. It's the way the beltway and the mainstream treats this president that is shocking. On Thursday, almost every Republican had no trouble interrupting him in the middle of a sentence. They looked like they're going to vomit every time they had to say "Mr. president". They all had this Eric-Cantor-Smirk whenever he spoke. Then they went out and started to spit their stupid talking points, to the delight of the media. Sarah Palin, a woman who can hardly read, thinks that he was "arrogant" towards John McCain, and somehow this is an important news. Because you see, "Obama's Arrogance" is the talking point of the day.
Oh, those talking points. He is arrogant (because he knows the facts better than all of them combined). He is an elitist (because he uses big words that they don't understand). He is weak on national security (because he actually thinks about the consequences). He divides the country (well, he did that the day he had the audacity to win the election). Worst of all, he actually thinks that he's the president. He even dared to say so on Thursday. How arrogant of him. You'd think that previous presidents didn't have any ego. Somehow it turned out that the one president who treats even his biggest opponents with the utmost respect – is the arrogant one. I wonder why?
I expected that his winning the Presidency would bring out some ugliness, but it's been far worse than I imagined. The racism coming from the Right is obviously clear and shameless, but there's also some hidden and maybe subconscious and disturbing underline tone behind some of the things that I read here and throughout the Left blogosphere, even before the end of Obama's first year - 'He's weak, he's spineless, he's got no balls, primary him in 2012'. It'll be dishonest to deny that.
The fact is that for millions in America , Barack Obama is this uppity black man (Not even a "real" black), who received good education only due to affirmative action, and has no right to litter the sacred Oval Office with his skin color. They just can't accept the fact that the president is a black man, who unlike his predecessor, was actually legally elected. But what's really sad is that it's not just the fringe, its deep deep in mainstream America .
Barack Obama's ability to remain above all this slob, to keep his optimism and his strange and mostly unjustified faith in people, while continuing to gracefully deal with an endless shitstorm – is one of the most inspiring displays of human quality I have ever seen. And I can only hope that the Cosmos is on his side because God is and He never makes a mistake.
Sometimes, they make me feel ashamed to be a white man!!

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Post by war eagle Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:19 am

I can understand why this author would NOT sign his (or her's)name!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by masmith Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:34 am

Some really silly people want to submit to the ruling class...you kool aid drinkers can not think for yourself and must have a LIBERAL think for you.... Are you better off now than when ODUMBO came into office ? are there more jobs ? are we more respected in the world ? LIBTURDS are killing the country.

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Post by BURNS Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:40 am

OBAMA IS STILL THE MOST UNQUALIFIED MAN IN ANY ROOMS HE ENTERS.
A COMMUNIST/MARXIST CANNOT LEAD A FREE MARKET ECONOMY.. HE DOESN'T BELIEVE IT..
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Post by Palmer Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:42 am

Well said Meritu. You will likely receive several posts that affirm and prove your proposition.
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Post by donzi Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:48 am

Is that you, Michelle O?

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Post by joejaboah Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:49 am

meritu wrote:Arrogance of being President while being Black



I don't think anyone was under some real illusion that the election of Barack Obama actually means the end of racism in America . I'm pretty sure that the president-elect knew it better than anyone. After all, he saw it every day, from the moment he announced his candidacy. To some degree, he saw it within his own party during the primaries. And he saw it in all ugliness during the general election. For half of this country, he was "That One". No matter how big and clear his victory was. No matter how smart he is. No matter how decent he is. No matter what a true patriot he is. No matter how optimistic and positive his vision for America was. All that didn't matter. Because at the end of the day, he was still black.
I'm quite old. I remember, vaguely, where my parents were on November 22, 1963. I've seen so many presidents. Some were feared, some were hated, some were adored, some popular and some not. But all of them, without exception, were treated with the highest respect deserving the office of the president of the United States .
That is until a black man won the right to occupy this office. It's been 13 months now, and in the eyes of so many, Barack Obama is still that one. He is being disrespected and at the same time being held to the highest standard of any president I've ever seen – and not just by the Republican side! He has to perform three times better than any president in history, and even that may not be enough.
For the media, he is many more times just "Obama" than "President Obama". They create scandals out of nothing issues. It took them at least 6 years to start giving Bush a small part of the cabbage he deserved. It took them 6 months to begin crap all over Obama because he's yet to fix the catastrophe that was left for him.
They use condescending tones when they talk about him, and only mildly less condescending when they talk TO him. With anyone else, CNN wouldn't dare go to commercials every time the president speaks, like they did during that summit on Thursday. They wouldn't dare be counting how many minutes George Bush or Bill Clinton were talking. Chris Mathews wouldn't dare make an issue out of Ronald Regan calling members of congress by their first name, like he is not actually the president. They fully cooperate with the Right-Wing smear machine when it comes to president Obama's national security performance – even if almost every independent and military expert actually thinks that he's a terrific Commander-in-Chief. You'll never see them on TV, and virtually no one from the Left, in congress and outside, defend the president on this matter.
I don't care about the Far-Right. They're just crazy ignorant Neanderthals. It's the way the beltway and the mainstream treats this president that is shocking. On Thursday, almost every Republican had no trouble interrupting him in the middle of a sentence. They looked like they're going to vomit every time they had to say "Mr. president". They all had this Eric-Cantor-Smirk whenever he spoke. Then they went out and started to spit their stupid talking points, to the delight of the media. Sarah Palin, a woman who can hardly read, thinks that he was "arrogant" towards John McCain, and somehow this is an important news. Because you see, "Obama's Arrogance" is the talking point of the day.
Oh, those talking points. He is arrogant (because he knows the facts better than all of them combined). He is an elitist (because he uses big words that they don't understand). He is weak on national security (because he actually thinks about the consequences). He divides the country (well, he did that the day he had the audacity to win the election). Worst of all, he actually thinks that he's the president. He even dared to say so on Thursday. How arrogant of him. You'd think that previous presidents didn't have any ego. Somehow it turned out that the one president who treats even his biggest opponents with the utmost respect – is the arrogant one. I wonder why?
I expected that his winning the Presidency would bring out some ugliness, but it's been far worse than I imagined. The racism coming from the Right is obviously clear and shameless, but there's also some hidden and maybe subconscious and disturbing underline tone behind some of the things that I read here and throughout the Left blogosphere, even before the end of Obama's first year - 'He's weak, he's spineless, he's got no balls, primary him in 2012'. It'll be dishonest to deny that.
The fact is that for millions in America , Barack Obama is this uppity black man (Not even a "real" black), who received good education only due to affirmative action, and has no right to litter the sacred Oval Office with his skin color. They just can't accept the fact that the president is a black man, who unlike his predecessor, was actually legally elected. But what's really sad is that it's not just the fringe, its deep deep in mainstream America .
Barack Obama's ability to remain above all this slob, to keep his optimism and his strange and mostly unjustified faith in people, while continuing to gracefully deal with an endless shitstorm – is one of the most inspiring displays of human quality I have ever seen. And I can only hope that the Cosmos is on his side because God is and He never makes a mistake.
Sometimes, they make me feel ashamed to be a white man!!

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I understand why you didn't sign your name.
I am completely fine with his color, and it disgusts me to hear anyone play the race card.....what a cop-out! I've never felt our country was so vulnerable as I do now. His close associations with people who openly hate our country and have stated so is what makes me feel so insecure. It is not his color. I admire him for overcoming whatever race issue he has to overcome; I admire his eloquence when he speaks; I admire his family. I fear his heart; I fear where his true allegiance is.
I DO, on the other hand, wish we could have one presidency without slanted views and proclamations of the president and/or vice president coming from all directions. BTW, I notice you didn't refer to him as President Obama either, and yet you rant your rage about others not doing so. ..."The fact is that for millions in America , Barack Obama is this uppity"......"its deep deep in mainstream America . Barack Obama's ability to remain above".......

Just try to have a good day. Pray for God to bless our president and all his decisions. Thank God for your own blessings.

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Post by homeintheusa Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:50 am

What this author can't see is that they are the one who so concerned with the Presidents skin color that they can't see the fact that he has never even ran a lemonade stand. In fact has he ever really had a non-government job....except maybe part time for ACORN. He is now the President of the United States.....That is our country's CEO....Is that how he's been acting saying "you guys bring me a plan"...We shouldn't really blame him....he has no idea how to run anything but a campaign. Color doesn't matter...this President should be fired in 2012...and someone, Black, White, Yellow it doesn't matter, QUALIFIED should be elected.

His performance is pitiful.

Not really a poster....

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Post by roggiebb Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:51 am

I am 66 and have sen more than you. In 1963 when I was 18 and serving in the army, I entered a bar with a friend of mine in Kentucky. We wanted to have a beer and talk for a while.

We were enjoying ourselves when I realize that we had been there almost a hour. So I walked over to the barkeep and said let us have a couple of beers. He said I'll give you one but he won't be served.

This was the 1st time I had ever run into this horrible racist attitude. I started to raise a fuss but my friend came over and pulled me out the door.

I was truly upset and ready to fight. My friend just said..don't loose your cool over it, there are racist on both sides. And sir you are the worst example of it. I was happy to accept O as presdent and willing to give him my support. I didn't care if he was black, white, or green.

I respect the office but can no longer respect him as a person. He is not the first president that I have not respected as a person.

Over the years I have met many wonderful black people, and have several black friends, I do not even think of them as black, they are Kenny, and Joseph, and Lenny, and many more.

I have many white friends too, but I don't think of them as white,They are Bob, John, Mary, and many more.

I also have many Jewish friens, I don't think of them as Jews, they are Glenn, Bruce, and Jon and many more.

I have also met bad whites, blacks and Jews.

I am a WASP and proud to belong to the Lord and know HE would never turn anyone away.

Maybe we will have a Latino President someday and then you can have a field day.

Praise the Lord..roggiebb

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Post by Palmer Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:55 am

Joejaboa.. You wrote "His close associations with people who openly hate our country and have stated so is what makes me feel so insecure"....who are you referring to here?
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Post by tourman60 Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:56 am

What a mouth full of crapolla. This person is obviously still seeing thru those rose colored glasses that Obama handed out when he was running for President. The simple fact is, we have a left leaning President that was swept into office on the guise of "Hope and Change" and "transparency". What did we get? A President that blames others for his short comings and inexperience as a leader. Hides behind the socialistic morons who make up his cabinet. This is not a man scorned for his skin color!! At least for me, his heritage was not an issue when I voted in the last election. I was voting for a President that has character, christian morals and a sense of duty to do the right thing for our county. Not pander to special interests!!! Yes, this man did inherit a massive problem from Bush. (who I voted for ) But instead of tackling that problem from a leadership stand point. Obama and his cohorts took advantage of this countries wealth and gave it to the same "Big Businesses" that he condemns!! This country NEEDED a leader right from the get go, and this man has not done that job since day one! The highest office in this country commands respect and I give it that respect, but the man sitting in that office MUST earn respect. So far I cannot grant that to him. If this man truly means what he says when he speaks those words in front of the camera, "May God Bless the U.S." And is convinced that God has his hand on this country, I believe we would be in a lot better shape than we are now. Again, if one is judged solely by his skin color and not by the content of his heart then we as a people do not deserve God's blessings. This countries founding fathers formed a constitution with God's hand print all over it. This country has tried to live up to that document, but it seems, since I have been alive, (51+ years) there is a growing population out there that wants to destroy that. WHY!! I just don't get it!! It is one of the most amazing, truthful, hopeful and inspiring documents put to paper. Only second to God's word, IMO....

I hope this "meritu" person will take those rose colored glasses off and look at what is really going on in this country under this man in office. It will be a real eye opener I trust!

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Post by Pitterpatter Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:59 am

I come to this and other forums for insight & info on the RV, not for political discourse. To be fair, I am against all political posts and must, therefore, state that I wish Meritu had not made this post, as I believe it has no place in a Dinar forum. Likewise, all of the anti-Obama posts hves no place here. I sympathize with Meritu's point of view and realize frustration. Every day for months, on every IQD forum, I read post after post and page after page in chat ridiculing and attacking the President, claiming he is illigitimate, that he was not born in this country, that he is a Marxist or Socialist, that he hates our country, that he is greedy and has an agenda to bring down our country, that he is a secret Muslim, not the Christian he claims to be...I can go on & on. I, like Meritu, am tired of it! If I want political debate, there are many other websites I can go to for that. For those who dislike the President, we get it. But respect the U.S. enough to respect our electoral process and know that you get an opportunity to elect someone more to your liking next year. Good luck.

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Post by cmarin Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:00 am

I see it hurts. You think you own the world with you old Supremacy politics.

You are not capable to evaluate, you just stick to your white attitude.

It is difficult to accept, but the world is changing and you will be gone before all this ends.

And your attitudes and high knowledge of "what is good for America" will died with you.

I am sure you think God is white and Republican.

Poor people.

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:08 am

This guy has a political agenda or he would have signed his name.

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Post by topspin2 Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:09 am

What is so difficult for most to understand is that Obama wasn't elected, he was groomed. This country is so far gone that only mass riots will get us back on track. Take some time if you will and go and read the PROTOCOLS OF SION (Zion). Its accuracy is unreal and it will help you understand why we are where we are as a country. The naysayers will tell it the information was stolen, blah blah blah.....although they do have a point. Understand the role of the Kazarians throughout history, and the difference between a Kazarian Jew and a biblical Jew........It will help you understand not only history, but the dinar and who actually holds the key to its release.....

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Post by free@thepump Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:28 am

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THOSE PERSONS THAT SAY OBAMA HAS HAD A TUFF TIME OF IT.
GOD BLESS OBAMA AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.
I HOPE AND PRAY THAT HE IS LEAD BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD AND MAKES THE RIGHT DESISIONS FOR THIS COUNTRY AND "WE THE PEOPLE".
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Smile
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Post by jrankin Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:34 am

Its sad that the color of the presidents skin has blinded alot of people and made them ingorant to the issues at hand and the solutions that President Obama has to them. Spread the wealth, thats okay he's black, forced healthcare, thats okat he's black. The thing is that just because he is black it doesnt mean you have to be blind and deaf to the issues and answers, whether black, yellow, blue or white or black. Use your common sense and your head, dont rely on color or race, its ridiculous.

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Post by oldman1 Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:57 am

You have got to blind or stupid to think that O is doing a good job at anything but making himself wealthy in this process. His arrogance
and political saavy are a joke thru-out the world. Here at home he Ired the Supreme court justices, we still don't know if he 's a citizen, congress has had it with him, and so hav more than half the American citizens. He every aspect of your American lif run by our gov't ( or his gov't ) personally, I don't want him telling me I have to do, or buy, or comply with any thing . I can take care of myself and family as I have done for 45 years. So don't even try to tell me what a tuff job he has. We the American people have the tuff job.
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Post by trepid Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:59 am

I don't know who said anything about Obama's skin color. When my black godchild asked if I would vote for Obama I said no. I don't vote for or against a person because of their skin color. I explained to her that he was not prepared for the job. He has no experience in business, the military, etc. He is not the leader that this country needs.

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Post by Roketman Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:09 am

oldman1 wrote:So don't even try to tell me what a tuff job he has. We the American people have the tuff job.
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He goes to the golf course more than any president has ever golfed. He goes on more vacations than any other president. He has parties all the time in the WH, more than any other president. He doesn't even respect his office enough to dress appropriatly when entering the Oval office for business (he wears shorts and flip flops). I don't see where this president has a tuff job. He inherited what he voted for while he was in congress (which was democratically controlled).


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Post by reality Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:20 am

Yes I concur, God Bless America and President Obama.....may he be re-elected also....

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Post by free@thepump Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:23 am

Roketman wrote:
oldman1 wrote:So don't even try to tell me what a tuff job he has. We the American people have the tuff job.
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He goes to the golf course more than any president has ever golfed. He goes on more vacations than any other president. He has parties all the time in the WH, more than any other president. He doesn't even respect his office enough to dress appropriatly when entering the Oval office for business (he wears shorts and flip flops). I don't see where this president has a tuff job. He inherited what he voted for while he was in congress (which was democratically controlled).


COME WITH SOMETHING THAT IS TRUE. THAT IS STRAIGHT HOGWASH.
YOU SHOULD HAVE KEPT THIS STUPID POST TO YOURSELF.
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Post by Roketman Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:26 am

reality wrote:Yes I concur, God Bless America and President Obama.....may he be re-elected also....



He will be re-elected if ACORN has anything to do with it. He stole the first one He can steal the second one too. I bet his mom, grandma or whoever raised him (maybe Mrs. Soros) is so proud of him. I bet they pinch his cheek, shake it and says "now that's my good little marxist".


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Post by topspin2 Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:31 am

Just what has to happen for people to understand the the left and the right are on the same team? Read people read. Its all a dog and pony show. There are no facts coming out of DC, not now not ever! You people will vote in the same people that created this mess and believe with all of your heart that it is the proper choice. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. HELLO........

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Post by meep Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:38 am

Thank you for saying that. He is the leader at the moment we need to pray he makes decisions that are ultimately good for this country and our transaction.

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Post by Donnalynn Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:10 pm

Mods can we please take this thread out. It is only going to case a riot among the people here.

We are here first and foremost to discuss the dinar and the (hopefully soon) RV.

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Post by interesting Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:15 pm

homeintheusa wrote:What this author can't see is that they are the one who so concerned with the Presidents skin color that they can't see the fact that he has never even ran a lemonade stand. In fact has he ever really had a non-government job....except maybe part time for ACORN. He is now the President of the United States.....That is our country's CEO....Is that how he's been acting saying "you guys bring me a plan"...We shouldn't really blame him....he has no idea how to run anything but a campaign. Color doesn't matter...this President should be fired in 2012...and someone, Black, White, Yellow it doesn't matter, QUALIFIED should be elected.

His performance is pitiful.

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I agree. I could care less what govt. officials looks like or whether they are a man or a woman. I just want a true protect-with-your-life, look-out-for-the-good-of-people-first official. Looking back through time, it is very easy to see who was a true Father of the country....and it is easy to see who was not. Maybe that ought to be how we decide who to vote for. What kind of parent will they be...father-figure, mother-figure? I am praying those with any other kind of heart will be booted out because the American people see the truth and never let this happen again. GOD BLESS AMERICAN PRESIDENT--OBAMA USFlag-Waving

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Post by interesting Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:18 pm

trepid wrote:I don't know who said anything about Obama's skin color. When my black godchild asked if I would vote for Obama I said no. I don't vote for or against a person because of their skin color. I explained to her that he was not prepared for the job. He has no experience in business, the military, etc. He is not the leader that this country needs.



that sounds like wisdom, Trepid. Thank you.

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Post by timeprimer Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:58 pm

meritu wrote:Arrogance of being President while being Black



I don't think anyone was under some real illusion that the election of Barack Obama actually means the end of racism in America . I'm pretty sure that the president-elect knew it better than anyone. After all, he saw it every day, from the moment he announced his candidacy. To some degree, he saw it within his own party during the primaries. And he saw it in all ugliness during the general election. For half of this country, he was "That One". No matter how big and clear his victory was. No matter how smart he is. No matter how decent he is. No matter what a true patriot he is. No matter how optimistic and positive his vision for America was. All that didn't matter. Because at the end of the day, he was still black.
I'm quite old. I remember, vaguely, where my parents were on November 22, 1963. I've seen so many presidents. Some were feared, some were hated, some were adored, some popular and some not. But all of them, without exception, were treated with the highest respect deserving the office of the president of the United States .
That is until a black man won the right to occupy this office. It's been 13 months now, and in the eyes of so many, Barack Obama is still that one. He is being disrespected and at the same time being held to the highest standard of any president I've ever seen – and not just by the Republican side! He has to perform three times better than any president in history, and even that may not be enough.
For the media, he is many more times just "Obama" than "President Obama". They create scandals out of nothing issues. It took them at least 6 years to start giving Bush a small part of the cabbage he deserved. It took them 6 months to begin crap all over Obama because he's yet to fix the catastrophe that was left for him.
They use condescending tones when they talk about him, and only mildly less condescending when they talk TO him. With anyone else, CNN wouldn't dare go to commercials every time the president speaks, like they did during that summit on Thursday. They wouldn't dare be counting how many minutes George Bush or Bill Clinton were talking. Chris Mathews wouldn't dare make an issue out of Ronald Regan calling members of congress by their first name, like he is not actually the president. They fully cooperate with the Right-Wing smear machine when it comes to president Obama's national security performance – even if almost every independent and military expert actually thinks that he's a terrific Commander-in-Chief. You'll never see them on TV, and virtually no one from the Left, in congress and outside, defend the president on this matter.
I don't care about the Far-Right. They're just crazy ignorant Neanderthals. It's the way the beltway and the mainstream treats this president that is shocking. On Thursday, almost every Republican had no trouble interrupting him in the middle of a sentence. They looked like they're going to vomit every time they had to say "Mr. president". They all had this Eric-Cantor-Smirk whenever he spoke. Then they went out and started to spit their stupid talking points, to the delight of the media. Sarah Palin, a woman who can hardly read, thinks that he was "arrogant" towards John McCain, and somehow this is an important news. Because you see, "Obama's Arrogance" is the talking point of the day.
Oh, those talking points. He is arrogant (because he knows the facts better than all of them combined). He is an elitist (because he uses big words that they don't understand). He is weak on national security (because he actually thinks about the consequences). He divides the country (well, he did that the day he had the audacity to win the election). Worst of all, he actually thinks that he's the president. He even dared to say so on Thursday. How arrogant of him. You'd think that previous presidents didn't have any ego. Somehow it turned out that the one president who treats even his biggest opponents with the utmost respect – is the arrogant one. I wonder why?
I expected that his winning the Presidency would bring out some ugliness, but it's been far worse than I imagined. The racism coming from the Right is obviously clear and shameless, but there's also some hidden and maybe subconscious and disturbing underline tone behind some of the things that I read here and throughout the Left blogosphere, even before the end of Obama's first year - 'He's weak, he's spineless, he's got no balls, primary him in 2012'. It'll be dishonest to deny that.
The fact is that for millions in America , Barack Obama is this uppity black man (Not even a "real" black), who received good education only due to affirmative action, and has no right to litter the sacred Oval Office with his skin color. They just can't accept the fact that the president is a black man, who unlike his predecessor, was actually legally elected. But what's really sad is that it's not just the fringe, its deep deep in mainstream America .
Barack Obama's ability to remain above all this slob, to keep his optimism and his strange and mostly unjustified faith in people, while continuing to gracefully deal with an endless shitstorm – is one of the most inspiring displays of human quality I have ever seen. And I can only hope that the Cosmos is on his side because God is and He never makes a mistake.
Sometimes, they make me feel ashamed to be a white man!!

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All I want to say about that is: Me neither too also, unh-unh, negatory Meritu. But I do agree with your shame... if I were you I would be ashamed of whatever color I was. Obama's a liar and a communist. NUFF SAID!

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Post by Alchemist Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:17 pm

topspin2 wrote:Just what has to happen for people to understand the the left and the right are on the same team? Read people read. Its all a dog and pony show. There are no facts coming out of DC, not now not ever! You people will vote in the same people that created this mess and believe with all of your heart that it is the proper choice. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. HELLO........

Agreed!

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Post by charity Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:49 pm

Usually the people who say something about color are the biggots. I don't have a problem with color , but I have found that most people with color have a problem with their own color. Yes, that makes sense. Obama has a horrible record, and is on a spending spree like there's no tomorrow. Obviously, some people can't get past his color to see it!NO racism here. I would've loved to have seen Condaleeza Rice in Power ...not only black but female. She's a no nonsense woman, with lots of experience. Unfortunately, she probably knows too much to run for pres. So there you go!

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Post by OKie_GEM Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:41 pm

Now I have a question here. Our president is half black and half white (or half white and half black if you so choose). So why the heck are people pulling the RACE card every time the people of the United States of America speak out against him?
I for one do not feel a bit guilty nor will allow someone to make me feel guilty by holding someone accountable for his or her elected duties. He chose to run, he chose to make the promises he made, it was HIS CHOICE. No, do not sit there and try to make me feel like I cannot speak out against the wrongs just because of the color of his skin. THAT my friend, is racism at its worst.
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Post by OKie_GEM Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:43 pm

charity wrote:Usually the people who say something about color are the biggots. I don't have a problem with color , but I have found that most people with color have a problem with their own color. Yes, that makes sense. Obama has a horrible record, and is on a spending spree like there's no tomorrow. Obviously, some people can't get past his color to see it!NO racism here. I would've loved to have seen Condaleeza Rice in Power ...not only black but female. She's a no nonsense woman, with lots of experience. Unfortunately, she probably knows too much to run for pres. So there you go!

I would have voted for her or Powell in a heartbeat!
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Post by reality Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:47 pm

Well,Well,Well, Interesting!!!!! Go RV, Go Obama, God Bless us all, Rep/Dem/Tea and Ind.....These are just political view points, Lets continue loving the human race, because clearly no one here as Christians and God loving people would still have any race issues?.....Blessings People

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Post by katydid Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:41 pm

OMG a total definition of delusion and deceit in the utmost form. Thank the GOOD LORD that many are waking up that voted for this man. I could care less what color he is but what does the man really stand for? It is obvious just as the BIBLE declares "you will know them by their fruits". I watch and I pray---as we all should - if we are true christians and not just in word but deed also--we should be watchman on the wall. we have generations under us that we are responsible for. We must leave behind us a better world if possible. Unfortunately, without the devine hand of GOD that won't be possible. This man obviously plans to continue destroying our economy (by reckless and undefined spending), he rescinded 30 years of pro-life( Not sucking the brains out of unborn babies in third trimester inutero) for those who really don't understand abortion!!! Not only that but he now has my personal taxpayer money funding not only the USA abortions but also abroad!!!! I could spend an hour right here defining why he is not a good person. If we have a man who cannot even protect the life of the innocent why would he want to protect you and me?? Well, he doesn't, so, get your head out of your buttocks and think for yourslef and quit voting the way your ancestors have for centruies!!! I vote for the most Godly man with the most Godly principals--they are not perfect-they will make many mistakes but I look at their motives --dear Lord I hope there are a FEW GOOD MEN left in the world BTW I love and respect Herman Cain and what color is he, well, guess what he is 100% black and he also believes in working!!!!!! Isn't that a novelty!!! The main trait of Herman Cain is His Godly stand. He also has the American entrepenuer spirit where people are blessed for hard work and good ethics!!!! The pres now has not stood for anything Christian but has upheld every muslim event --be it prayer or whatever!!!!Actually everything this man has touched is cursed, just as the BIBLE says it will be, if you are not in line with GOD's will!!! Furthermore and most importantly, if he, the pres, continues to pull away from Israel and no longer be a supprt to them, then we will see much demise come to our GREAT COUNTRY--- WE MUST PRAY--- and yes ---I pray for him ---that he too will see the light!!!! And come to JESUS!!! Katydid

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Post by polecat Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:18 pm

the only people who care about color are those who need a crutch or an excuse.get over it. excellence and honesty are color blind. ie clarence thomas, alan keyes herman cain. patriots are all the same color red white and blue,traitors are a different matter
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Post by trae Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:30 pm

this thread is totally irrelevant to anything regarding dinar, so......shouldn't it be in another thread???? hmmmmmm.....

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Post by AZhombre Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:48 pm

Our family also prays for the leaders of the United States of America to make righteous decisions.

This discussion of President Obama, might lead one to ask “what’s wrong with Obama"? After deeper analysis, one could argue that to be an incredibly stupid question.

Why not ask what was / is wrong with Lenin, Castro, Kim Jong, Eva Peron, Hitler, Papa Doc Duvalier, Mao, Stalin, Danny Ortega, Chavez, Bill Ayers, Hilary Clinton, John Kerry, Mussolini, Marx, Pelosi, etc.?

I found a discussion board recently where that question was asked and enjoyed the following response:

“Oh, that's right. They are arrogant, elitist, narcissistic, know-it-all, conceited, self anointed moralists who believe that they, and only they, have the necessary combination of intellect, sophistication, education and world-view to dictate and command and order the unwashed masses what to do , what not to do , and in general how to conduct their lives. Of course, these elitists will not, and cannot be expected to live by the prescriptions they impose on the "commoners." Dictators, tyrants, communists, nazis, socialists, liberals, progressives, facists, maoist, trotskyites, taliban, al queda - call them what you will - but they all share a common belief that the average person is stupid and incapable of making rational decisions and therefore must be COERCED to live a proper life, as defined by the self-anointed moral elites. Obama - your straight up Marxist Leninist - is just one of these hypocritical, self-centered, arrogant, conceited jerks”.

A very wise man described an equally dangerous person years ago:

“And he was a man of many words, and did speak much flattery to the people; therefore he led many of the people to do after the manner of his iniquities”.

PS. Obviously I look forward to the blessings from my investment in Dinars. That wealth will help me put my house in order and be in a much better position to help others. I plan on doing whatever I can to defend our constitution, even if that means becoming a real pain in the butt to stupid politicians. Bottom line: As the constitution is being destroyed, so are our choices. If I have offended you with my opinion, and you choose to leave this site because you are offended, that is your choice. Please don’t let the door hit you in the butt on your way out!
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Post by dinargirlk Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:26 pm

katydid - I appreciate your position, but we all have to realize our Christian views/beliefs are VERY different than Barry's - HE IS A MUSLIM....

with regard to AZhombre - DITTO!! Let me know what you plan to do when the RV happens so I can contribute to your "program". We all need to work together - intellectually and financially- to right the hideous wrongs he is bringing to our country.

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Post by Gmansaid Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:37 pm

trae wrote:this thread is totally irrelevant to anything regarding dinar, so......shouldn't it be in another thread???? hmmmmmm.....

It is quite relevant, actually, and it is under the title of "General Discussion" and as long as people are respectful (for the most part) in the way that they convey their points of view then it can stay, IMHO. It is interesting and educational and for those who can read between the lines ,very enlightening.


"Dissent is the highest form of patriotism." -Thomas Jefferson

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Post by trucker chet Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:04 pm

All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer

Thank you Gmansaid

Your quotes are appropriate but have limitations. For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. So a pliable heart that this soft and yearning to learn as a child will ever see the truth.

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Post by Gmansaid Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:10 pm

trucker chet wrote:All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed; second, it is violently opposed; and third, it is accepted as self-evident. --Arthur Schopenhauer

Thank you Gmansaid

Your quotes are appropriate but have limitations. For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. So a pliable heart that this soft and yearning to learn as a child will ever see the truth.

Would you be so kind as to expand and clarify the quote that I highlighted?

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Post by Alchemist Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:34 pm

Greed and corruption have no preference of color.

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Post by fmuhammad521 Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:04 pm

[b]I don't usually say a lot; I just read people's opinions, no matter how distorted in my opinion, and keep it moving. Just waiting for my blessing. However, I do love our country President Obama is my president and I personally pray God he Very Happy will be for the next term to come as well. I know that there are those that don't like him for one reason or another; most of all for the same reason although they have not the guts to utter what the true reason is. This is all politics and all politicians have their own agenda; believe it or not. I am very proud of our president and keep him and our country lifted in prayer. When he has served both of his terms there will still be corruption in Washington and color does not matter. We have had some real "trips" at the helm of our country and it is by God's grace alone that we are still standing. I do know that God's will has and shall be done and nothing or no one can curse what God has blessed or bless what God himself has cursed. Let's be prayerful and watchful; for His return is soon and when He comes back for His Sheep, this country will be the furthest thing from my mind and most righteous people for that matter. May God have mercy on us all.

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Post by Alchemist Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:11 pm

". I know that there are those that don't like him for one reason or another; most of all for the same reason although they have not the guts to utter what the true reason is. This is all politics and all politicians have their own agenda; believe it or not. I am very proud of our president and keep him and our country lifted in prayer."

I give you credit for speaking your mind in a positive way especially in light of the tone of this thread!

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Post by Alchemist Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:18 pm

"What is so difficult for most to understand is that Obama wasn't elected, he was groomed." Aren't many of them?

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Post by The G-Man Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:05 pm

Alchemist: To insinuate that the reason we do not like Obama is because he is a Black mtypical liberal BS. is insulting, not based on any evidence and plain liberal BS. When you can't defend this bum you play the race card. Well it won't work. Obama is a blot on humanity, an imposter, a disgrace to the Black race, and you can cut the crap about your snide remarks. This guy is worse than Jimmy Carter, dumber than Joe Biden, more stupid that a rock and is a dedicated agent of the Socialist agenda. He has no exxperience, no record of accomplishment is a rabble rouser, community organizer(which is one step lower than a IRS agent and Used Car Dealer. He has broiught about this economic crises and it is now his to solve. Doesn't that frighten the heck out of you to have this moron at the most important job in the world and all he can do is make a fool of himself on the golf course. Name one thing he has done right. Name one thing that isn't worse since he started his job as President. And this BLACK thing you have thrown out there. There are several Black Republicans who are ten times smarter, more eexperienced, more in tune with the American people all of whom we would vote for, starting with Alan West, Herman Cain, Wallter Williams, Bill Cosby, George Forman, heck, even Mike Tyson is smarted than Obama and would make a better president. Remember, you and your "sophist,elitist" attitude started this discussion. Time for you to wake up buster. Your guy belongs in prison not the White House. Just sayin!
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Post by peter3 Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:18 pm

BAD POLICY BAD PRESIDENT HE IS A PUPPET FOR THE BANKS AND FEDERAL RESERVE TAX US TO DEATH .
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Post by trucker chet Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:36 pm

Sorry Gmansaid, I was busy listening to a conference call, but I check to see what you said. These scriptures if you read them closely will give you an understanding.


This is about the inner heart.
Mt 18:1 At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? Mt 18:2 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, Mt 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Mt 18:4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Mt 18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me. Mt 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Mt 18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!


This is about the inner motives. Notice even Jesus didn't take credit for understanding the doctrine, because without God's spirit he also would not have understood. (Isaiah 11: 1-3)

Jesus is the rod out of the stem of Jessie or the Branch as is mentioned several times in the scriptures in the Old Testament.
Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; Isa 11:3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.

Joh 7:2 Now the Jews' feast of tabernacles was at hand. Joh 7:3 His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest. Joh 7:4 For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, show thyself to the world. Joh 7:5 For neither did his brethren believe in him. Joh 7:6 Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready. Joh 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil. Joh 7:8 Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come. Joh 7:9 When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee. Joh 7:10 But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret. Joh 7:11 Then the Jews sought him at the feast, and said, Where is he? Joh 7:12 And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people. Joh 7:13 Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews. Joh 7:14 Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught. Joh 7:15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man letters, having never learned? Joh 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. Joh 7:17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.


God is the one who looks into the heart and allows you to have an understanding.
Isa 54:13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children. Isa 54:14 In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee. Isa 54:15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake. Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy. Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

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