bring back the old okie oil man site

by crawdaddy2x22 Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:38 pm

For the love of all that holy can we please go back to way things were a couple of weeks ago? Nobody is posting, you have some threads that havnt been posted to since 2pm this afternoon. Where is everybody? You did the poll, change to rules and everybody disappeared! When we make comments the mods yell at you, is this what everybody wants. I loved this site. In the last 2 or 3 days weve been told if we dont like the site we could go else where. well it looks like that is what is happening!

by edlou Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:54 pm

Things have tightened up around here..We need to lighten up..

by crawdaddy2x22 Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:15 pm

But isnt the site for us? Are they happy with the same 15 people batting around lop theries and mods telling us why there are advo's now. I'm just saying this place was alot of fun. What good does it do to tighten up if nobody comes to the site?

by Bruno Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:16 pm

Go to the Coffee House. Great picture of Catherine there. bring back the old okie oil man site 3091836158

bring back the old okie oil man site 3973136183

by utjdd Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:16 am

I will try and relate it to the housing market. The regulations at first were to lax and then the government stepped in and way over tightened them and the next thing you know, nothing is going on in the housing market. It's the same way here. I use to spend a lot of time here reading what everyone had to say and now there is little information and not much to discuss. You have the same few talking to themselves. I know I got chastised for stating my opinion so I just check in to see if Okie or anyone left a message and leave. Very sad to see this site digress so badly. Oh well, the people voted.

by Guest Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:19 am

The best place to go is www.changesxchange.com.

by GoodGosh Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:10 am

So, is the plan to divert all members to changexchanges??? Away from Okie Oil Man? Hmmm, if Okie isn't involved .... seems like a covert operation.

Anyway, I agree with crawdaddy. When I first came to this site I thought WOW what a diverse group of innovative thinkers. What an amazing cohesion of beliefs, thoughts, and opinions. Now it has been censored to pieces. People come here for Okie and Bulldog and brief tidbits and that is all. But heck we can pick those posts up on any site that are reposting. Not much else because there isn't much else.

I will offer this up to my Christian friends here at OOM, If Christ himself were to walk into this community he would be shamed again, because of course he is in a light body and no One would recognize him because there isn't the awareness nor the comprehension. All things are censored here now into a one way road of thinking. Jesus does not do Linear. Jesus would be questioning the censorship and the withholding of truth from the masses. Jesus would be wanting to know WHERE IS THE LOVE .... and I will add WITHOUT Judgement.

Okie knows the truth of what is going on in the world and probably would agree with many of the postings that get sent over to OOM2, the ones "that don't belong here". Why?, because Okie has the information and understands what is going on globally.

I'm not sure why the mods are so locked into one way of thinking, I'm sure they have their reasons....but the truth be known.....IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP....TO A WHOLE NEW LIFE AND A WHOLE NEW WAY OF THINKING AND PERCEIVING.

YES Crawdaddy! I am with you ... BRING BACK THE OLD SITE!!!

GG

by humingbyrd Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:21 am

GoodGosh wrote:So, is the plan to divert all members to changexchanges??? Away from Okie Oil Man? Hmmm, if Okie isn't involved .... seems like a covert operation.

Anyway, I agree with crawdaddy. When I first came to this site I thought WOW what a diverse group of innovative thinkers. What an amazing cohesion of beliefs, thoughts, and opinions. Now it has been censored to pieces. People come here for Okie and Bulldog and brief tidbits and that is all. But heck we can pick those posts up on any site that are reposting. . Not much else because there isn't much else.

I will offer this up to my Christian friends here at OOM, If Christ himself were to walk into this community he would be shamed again, because of course he is in a light body and no One would recognize him because there isn't the awareness nor the comprehension. All things are censored here now into a one way road of thinking. Jesus does not do Linear. Jesus would be questioning the censorship and the withholding of truth from the masses. Jesus would be wanting to know WHERE IS THE LOVE .... and I will add WITHOUT Judgement.

Okie knows the truth of what is going on in the world and probably would agree with many of the postings that get sent over to OOM2, the ones "that don't belong here". Why?, because Okie has the information and understands what is going on globally.

I'm not sure why the mods are so locked into one way of thinking, I'm sure they have their reasons....but the truth be known.....IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP....TO A WHOLE NEW LIFE AND A WHOLE NEW WAY OF THINKING AND PERCEIVING.

YES Crawdaddy! I am with you ... BRING BACK THE OLD SITE!!!

GG

Recently it seems that things are posted elsewhere long before (if at all) they are posted here from Okie! Makes you kinda go Hummmmmmmmmm! confused

by TNman Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:28 am

This is what happens when you are so intent on protecting a couple of people to the detriment of the many and even the site. Sometimes it is very costly to be the champion of your convictions. I too have noticed a dearth of new articles and comments to these articles.

I know that I have been less prone to make any comments since being banned for a week for "cussing and name calling". The cussing was the word "bullcrap" and I don't recall using anyone's name directly. I did make mention of ovens and cakes and 747s and trains leaving the station and being selected and blessed, etc.

Most likely one of the reasons there is a drop-off is that people are sick and tired of the the worn out references to ovens, 747s, ad nauseam.

Again, this morning, I come down to the computer to see if the RV has happened as prognosticated by the wise one. I see no evidence of an RV. Add one more notch to the other 125 times. I call the RV for tomorrow, the next day and the day after that. Now I have myself covered for three days.

Oh, you'll find all of the people over at...you know where... They are a bunch of nuts but they are alive and well.

by TNman Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:36 am

Humingbyrd said:

"Recently it seems that things are posted elsewhere long before (if at all) they are posted here from Okie! Makes you kinda go Hummmmmmmmmm!"

I saw what Okie's post last night on three other sites. It was coming in bits and pieces so I came back here a little later so that I could read the whole post at one time for comprehension. I could not find it posted on this site. I found that very strange considering that this has Okie's name on it.

by Guest Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:27 am

www.changesxchange.com

by jbish422 Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:32 am

I too like the old way things were done...and like most see very little response to postings..why can't we be able to say what we feel??it's kinda like watch who you disagree with...and then the site picks which sources they will allow to post??? Isn't this what Iraq does with their media so we have no clue as to what is really going on?? just a thought

by nwrichard Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:50 am

I don't know if I want the old site back, but I think some of the mods get way way too carried away in banning people for speaking their minds. Some of the things they say are offensive is a stretch.

by Guest Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:54 am

If you want the truth with actual articles go to www.changesxchange.com

If you want made up stuff (the RV happened last week)...(it should happen today)...then come here.

Think of it like THE MATRIX...OOM is like being in the matrix...it's nice, but alot of lies. CHANGESXCHANGE is like being in the real world with facts.

You decide.

Miskebam tried her best to run this site and things did not go too well...

by **doodoo** Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:01 am

Wake me up if/when the site gets back to "NORMAL"

bring back the old okie oil man site 9k=

by nwrichard Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:04 am

I have been to changexchange, it looks good. Is it a sister site to this one, meaning was it built for Okie, or was it built for us???

punisher wrote:If you want the truth with actual articles go to www.changesxchange.com

If you want made up stuff (the RV happened last week)...(it should happen today)...then come here.

Think of it like THE MATRIX...OOM is like being in the matrix...it's nice, but alot of lies. CHANGESXCHANGE is like being in the real world with facts.

You decide.

Miskebam tried her best to run this site and things did not go too well...

by sandwedge Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:04 am

humingbyrd wrote:
GoodGosh wrote:So, is the plan to divert all members to changexchanges??? Away from Okie Oil Man? Hmmm, if Okie isn't involved .... seems like a covert operation.

Anyway, I agree with crawdaddy. When I first came to this site I thought WOW what a diverse group of innovative thinkers. What an amazing cohesion of beliefs, thoughts, and opinions. Now it has been censored to pieces. People come here for Okie and Bulldog and brief tidbits and that is all. But heck we can pick those posts up on any site that are reposting. . Not much else because there isn't much else.

I will offer this up to my Christian friends here at OOM, If Christ himself were to walk into this community he would be shamed again, because of course he is in a light body and no One would recognize him because there isn't the awareness nor the comprehension. All things are censored here now into a one way road of thinking. Jesus does not do Linear. Jesus would be questioning the censorship and the withholding of truth from the masses. Jesus would be wanting to know WHERE IS THE LOVE .... and I will add WITHOUT Judgement.

Okie knows the truth of what is going on in the world and probably would agree with many of the postings that get sent over to OOM2, the ones "that don't belong here". Why?, because Okie has the information and understands what is going on globally.

I'm not sure why the mods are so locked into one way of thinking, I'm sure they have their reasons....but the truth be known.....IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP....TO A WHOLE NEW LIFE AND A WHOLE NEW WAY OF THINKING AND PERCEIVING.

YES Crawdaddy! I am with you ... BRING BACK THE OLD SITE!!!

GG

Recently it seems that things are posted elsewhere long before (if at all) they are posted here from Okie! Makes you kinda go Hummmmmmmmmm!

What it makes is, it makes you go elsewhere to get your news, and posts. I use to come to OOM first. Now I come to OOM last. Many of the posts out there never even make it to OOM anymore. Seems OOM has lost all its "intel providers" with Jonny's exit, so many are going to Dinar recaps.

Go RI/RV..

by Guest Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:08 am

nwrichard wrote:I have been to changexchange, it looks good. Is it a sister site to this one, meaning was it built for Okie, or was it built for us???

punisher wrote:If you want the truth with actual articles go to www.changesxchange.com

If you want made up stuff (the RV happened last week)...(it should happen today)...then come here.

Think of it like THE MATRIX...OOM is like being in the matrix...it's nice, but alot of lies. CHANGESXCHANGE is like being in the real world with facts.

You decide.

Miskebam tried her best to run this site and things did not go too well...

Both OOM and CHANGESXCHANGE were created by the wonderful MISKEBAM. Miskebam is now slowly moving over to that site with ALL factual articvles coming out of IRAQ. That is the place to be...

This site has alot of INTEL PROVIDERS calling the RV everyday and if that is your cup of tea then you are welcomed to come here and drink.

by nwrichard Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:18 am

Thank you for the information, but you did not answer my basic question. Is changexchange built for Okie or is it built for us???

punisher wrote:
nwrichard wrote:I have been to changexchange, it looks good. Is it a sister site to this one, meaning was it built for Okie, or was it built for us???

punisher wrote:If you want the truth with actual articles go to www.changesxchange.com

If you want made up stuff (the RV happened last week)...(it should happen today)...then come here.

Think of it like THE MATRIX...OOM is like being in the matrix...it's nice, but alot of lies. CHANGESXCHANGE is like being in the real world with facts.

You decide.

Miskebam tried her best to run this site and things did not go too well...

Both OOM and CHANGESXCHANGE were created by the wonderful MISKEBAM. Miskebam is now slowly moving over to that site with ALL factual articvles coming out of IRAQ. That is the place to be...

This site has alot of INTEL PROVIDERS calling the RV everyday and if that is your cup of tea then you are welcomed to come here and drink.

by Guest Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:27 am

nwrichard wrote:Thank you for the information, but you did not answer my basic question. Is changexchange built for Okie or is it built for us???

punisher wrote:
nwrichard wrote:I have been to changexchange, it looks good. Is it a sister site to this one, meaning was it built for Okie, or was it built for us???

punisher wrote:If you want the truth with actual articles go to www.changesxchange.com

If you want made up stuff (the RV happened last week)...(it should happen today)...then come here.

Think of it like THE MATRIX...OOM is like being in the matrix...it's nice, but alot of lies. CHANGESXCHANGE is like being in the real world with facts.

You decide.

Miskebam tried her best to run this site and things did not go too well...

Both OOM and CHANGESXCHANGE were created by the wonderful MISKEBAM. Miskebam is now slowly moving over to that site with ALL factual articvles coming out of IRAQ. That is the place to be...

This site has alot of INTEL PROVIDERS calling the RV everyday and if that is your cup of tea then you are welcomed to come here and drink.

It's built for us Very Happy

by nwrichard Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:32 am

Thank you. I will visit it more frequently now. Please tell me if I am correct in my interpretation. If the site is built for us, then I would expect the rules of posting to apply to all that wish to call a RV. If they have called it at least once already and were wrong, they will not be allow to call it again without proof regardless of who they are.

Am I correct??

by Guest Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:33 am

That site only post facts...no guru stuff at all. You can comment on the factual articles.

by nwrichard Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:38 am

thank you, I am satisfied. Go RV Very Happy

by edlou Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:59 am

Change really stinks sometimes..

KEEP THE FAITH...

by 1alaskan Mon Feb 13, 2012 12:00 pm

You all could be right, but the few who do not follow the rules, which have always been there, forced the owners of the site to adhere to them in the black and white, no grey area manner.

Well, every member was told it would happen and rules were in place, so the ones who could not police themselves, make it difficult for all.

by **Kevind53** Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:07 pm

crawdaddy2x22 wrote:But isnt the site for us? Are they happy with the same 15 people batting around lop theries and mods telling us why there are advo's now. I'm just saying this place was alot of fun. What good does it do to tighten up if nobody comes to the site?

For the record, the dealer threads have been there for a long time. The only change is their location. They used to be in their own section, otherwise the only change is you happened to notice them.

by readysetrv Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:17 pm

GoodGosh wrote:So, is the plan to divert all members to changexchanges??? Away from Okie Oil Man? Hmmm, if Okie isn't involved .... seems like a covert operation.

Anyway, I agree with crawdaddy. When I first came to this site I thought WOW what a diverse group of innovative thinkers. What an amazing cohesion of beliefs, thoughts, and opinions. Now it has been censored to pieces. People come here for Okie and Bulldog and brief tidbits and that is all. But heck we can pick those posts up on any site that are reposting. Not much else because there isn't much else.

I will offer this up to my Christian friends here at OOM, If Christ himself were to walk into this community he would be shamed again, because of course he is in a light body and no One would recognize him because there isn't the awareness nor the comprehension. All things are censored here now into a one way road of thinking. Jesus does not do Linear. Jesus would be questioning the censorship and the withholding of truth from the masses. Jesus would be wanting to know WHERE IS THE LOVE .... and I will add WITHOUT Judgement.

Okie knows the truth of what is going on in the world and probably would agree with many of the postings that get sent over to OOM2, the ones "that don't belong here". Why?, because Okie has the information and understands what is going on globally.

I'm not sure why the mods are so locked into one way of thinking, I'm sure they have their reasons....but the truth be known.....IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP....TO A WHOLE NEW LIFE AND A WHOLE NEW WAY OF THINKING AND PERCEIVING.

YES Crawdaddy! I am with you ... BRING BACK THE OLD SITE!!!

GG

LOLOLOLOLOL goodgosh, now that is a good one. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

GO RVVVVVVVVVVVV!

"Okie knows the truth of what is going on in the world and probably would
agree with many of the postings that get sent over to OOM2, the ones
"that don't belong here". Why?, because Okie has the information and
understands what is going on globally".

by **Kevind53** Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:19 pm

GoodGosh wrote:So, is the plan to divert all members to changexchanges??? Away from Okie Oil Man? Hmmm, if Okie isn't involved .... seems like a covert operation.

Anyway, I agree with crawdaddy. When I first came to this site I thought WOW what a diverse group of innovative thinkers. What an amazing cohesion of beliefs, thoughts, and opinions. Now it has been censored to pieces. People come here for Okie and Bulldog and brief tidbits and that is all. But heck we can pick those posts up on any site that are reposting. Not much else because there isn't much else.

I will offer this up to my Christian friends here at OOM, If Christ himself were to walk into this community he would be shamed again, because of course he is in a light body and no One would recognize him because there isn't the awareness nor the comprehension. All things are censored here now into a one way road of thinking. Jesus does not do Linear. Jesus would be questioning the censorship and the withholding of truth from the masses. Jesus would be wanting to know WHERE IS THE LOVE .... and I will add WITHOUT Judgement.

Okie knows the truth of what is going on in the world and probably would agree with many of the postings that get sent over to OOM2, the ones "that don't belong here". Why?, because Okie has the information and understands what is going on globally.

I'm not sure why the mods are so locked into one way of thinking, I'm sure they have their reasons....but the truth be known.....IT IS TIME TO WAKE UP....TO A WHOLE NEW LIFE AND A WHOLE NEW WAY OF THINKING AND PERCEIVING.

YES Crawdaddy! I am with you ... BRING BACK THE OLD SITE!!!

GG

The decision was to post "hard news" on the changexchanges site as that was it's original intent. As to the rest, quite frankly Miske and all the Mods & Admins were rapidly burning out. Some were demanding we ban all gurus, some mad at us for allowing certain posts, others were mad at us for censorship, some seemed to be waiting for the latest guru post so they could slash and bash it. As moderators and admins we were constantly trying to keep things controlled and calm as possible while being inundated form all sides with complaints and cynical comments. Miske of course, received the brunt of it, not that she deserved it, but she received it. Quite frankly, you should consider yourselves lucky to even have the site still open given the behavior by the members.

by **Kevind53** Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:37 pm

To be clear, it is OK to disagree, as long as it is done in a respectful manner. The way you would expect and deserve to be disagreed with. Is it really to much to ask that you treat others the way you would like to be treated?

The rules are not that complex, nor are they onerous at all. In fact, they really boil down to common rules of decency. Unfortunately, some think that being on the internet gives them free reign to say things they would never dream of saying face to face. The failure of some to apply self control has unfortunately caused us to tighten down on the rules and that effects everyone.

Oh and TNman, I don't think there was a person on the site who didn't know who and what you meant, so just man up and get over it.

by **rick152** Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:40 pm

Now that this has gone this far I would like to add my 2 dinar worth...The site change has been brought on by the peeps themselves!! Not in that the questioning and such was wrong at all, it was the blatent disregasrd for ANY type of respect at all. Not only of the guru's but for each other. Now that being said there were different ways to get the point across without being so totally mean and rude. Had that not been the case the changes we are seeing would not be so drastic. Thank yourselves! Not all but those who do know who you are! No names or mud directly here. ...rick152

by Parrothead Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:24 pm

punisher wrote:www.changesxchange.com

This is what it's all about. The mods have been pushing this 'other' site hard for the last couple of weeks now. When you log onto this site, there is the great big banner advertising this other site. I can certainly see how it would be hard to constantly try to 'be nice' and keep the civility when EVERYBODY (IMHO) is frustrated with the substituting a (bad) sermon for (good) IQD intel. I love a good sermon, got one yesterday. I come here for IQD facts/good intel which are harder and harder to come by.

by Barry G Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:16 pm

Since this site was started, it was the primary site that I used. I loved it.

I went on other sites as time permitted. Now we have Okie I, Okie II, Okie I chat, Okie chat II, Cap, and Cap chat. HELP! I have so many tabs open most of the time that I can't view them all unless I scroll across them.

Okie I is now the number 4 or 5 site that I visit. I don't get it, all we really needed was more specific sections. The wheel is so much fun to reinvent.

The reality is that I don't pay for the sites - I just use them. And I am very grateful for them and all the gurus and posters. (Even the dreaded lobsters.) Just remember, it still beats DV! One got suicidal following that site.

by Bruno Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:30 pm

punisher wrote:
nwrichard wrote:I have been to changexchange, it looks good. Is it a sister site to this one, meaning was it built for Okie, or was it built for us???

punisher wrote:If you want the truth with actual articles go to www.changesxchange.com

If you want made up stuff (the RV happened last week)...(it should happen today)...then come here.

Think of it like THE MATRIX...OOM is like being in the matrix...it's nice, but alot of lies. CHANGESXCHANGE is like being in the real world with facts.

You decide.

Miskebam tried her best to run this site and things did not go too well...

Both OOM and CHANGESXCHANGE were created by the wonderful MISKEBAM. Miskebam is now slowly moving over to that site with ALL factual articles coming out of IRAQ. That is the place to be...

This site has alot of INTEL PROVIDERS calling the RV everyday and if that is your cup of tea then you are welcomed to come here and drink.

Miskebam is wonderful. She has done a fantastic job with both sites. We were told earlier that if we want to remain on this site, we best NEVER say anything bad about Okie or Bulldog!!!! SO, why are you, a moderator, allowed to say this site is not factual? Are you calling OUR two guru's liars? Why the double standard? Yes, I am more than disappointed the RV was not final this morning as alluded to in Okie's post. We may not be happy, but we, the lowly members of OOM, are not aloud to actually or truthfully say what WE think about the intel provided here. But you say it is not factual. You quoted Okie and Bulldog in your post and then say it is all made up. Your actions are confusing.

In the left column of the page there is a list of do's and don'ts/ettiquette for this site. Item #2 says, "► Posts that defame or insult OOM, its moderators and administrator, or your fellow members will not be allowed. Even if it is just your own personal opinion, RESPECT YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS."

nuff said

by GoodGosh Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:56 pm

punisher wrote:www.changesxchange.com

Am I to understand that this site is being phased out and you are turning your backs on Okie?

by GoodGosh Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:13 pm

I understand everyone is over-the-top out of patience with this RV not happening but I PROMISE you it is no "ones' fault.

You have to understand that there is an incredible event going on world wide and the little Iraqi RV is just a very small incidence. Give OKIE and BULLDOG and all the others just a little room here. They didn't create this situation, they are not in charge of pushing the button, and if you were to look into any of the hearts of the ones trying to bring you the truth of the situation you would find some very caring and amazing people.

Six months from now (maybe not even that long for the information that is being withheld as to real world events), but post RV when your sunning yourself on a tropical beach or having breakfast with your family, or building a bridge in Iraq or some other 3rd world country, you will pick up a newspaper or hear a broadcast, or maybe even read a book about the real truth of what occurred during these many months of waiting and pulling your hair out and punching the crap out of your computer because it didn't deliver your RV. 6 months from now things will make much more sense. You will understand. We will ALL be privy to the truth.

IMHO

by 1alaskan Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:30 pm

GoodGosh wrote:
punisher wrote:www.changesxchange.com

Am I to understand that this site is being phased out and you are turning your backs on Okie?

No one has said that, The www.changesxchange.com site came first, Hard news only, no gooroo speak, simple

by sandwedge Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:36 pm

GoodGosh wrote:
punisher wrote:www.changesxchange.com

Am I to understand that this site is being phased out and you are turning your backs on Okie?

Sure feels like OOM is fading away. As for your question regarding turning their backs on Okie, They may just be wanting to create some distance from Okie due to his many misfires over the years..

Go RI/RV..

by 1alaskan Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:43 pm

sandwedge wrote:
GoodGosh wrote:
punisher wrote:www.changesxchange.com

Am I to understand that this site is being phased out and you are turning your backs on Okie?

Sure feels like OOM is fading away. As for your question regarding turning their backs on Okie, They may just be wanting to create some distance from Okie due to his many misfires over the years..

Go RI/RV..

Maybe the members who have caused the most trouble will be fading out?

by LookingAtTheHeavens Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:56 pm

Yeah, they will be fading out to changesxchange and now that they got their way with the voting and basically killed the site they are gone leaving a ghost town of a forum. It's fairly depressing.

by gp cobb Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:56 pm

"Sure feels like OOM is fading away. As for your
question regarding turning their backs on Okie, They may just be wanting
to create some distance from Okie due to his many misfires over the
years.."

Me thinks you hit the nail on the head, and avoiding some frivolous law suit.

by 1alaskan Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:00 pm

LookingAtTheHeavens wrote:Yeah, they will be fading out to changesxchange and now that they got their way with the voting and basically killed the site they are gone leaving a ghost town of a forum. It's fairly depressing.

I don't think the admin/mods at changesxchange are going to put up with the things some members have said and done at OOM. Rules is rules.

by Guest Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:02 pm

Parrothead wrote:
punisher wrote:www.changesxchange.com

This is what it's all about. The mods have been pushing this 'other' site hard for the last couple of weeks now. When you log onto this site, there is the great big banner advertising this other site. I can certainly see how it would be hard to constantly try to 'be nice' and keep the civility when EVERYBODY (IMHO) is frustrated with the substituting a (bad) sermon for (good) IQD intel. I love a good sermon, got one yesterday. I come here for IQD facts/good intel which are harder and harder to come by.

It's all about facts and not fiction.

by CaptnJerry Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:05 pm

gp cobb wrote:"Sure feels like OOM is fading away. As for your
question regarding turning their backs on Okie, They may just be wanting
to create some distance from Okie due to his many misfires over the
years.."

Me thinks you hit the nail on the head, and avoiding some frivolous law suit.

You never know, but I would think he could become a liability to the site owner. If legal action was ever to be brought about, he most certainly would be the actual cause of said legal action... JMHO

CJ

by zonepirate Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:07 pm

punisher wrote:That site only post facts...no guru stuff at all. You can comment on the factual articles.

Some good discussions with a lot of varying opinions... makes you think

by sandwedge Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:38 pm

CaptnJerry wrote:
gp cobb wrote:"Sure feels like OOM is fading away. As for your
question regarding turning their backs on Okie, They may just be wanting
to create some distance from Okie due to his many misfires over the
years.."

Me thinks you hit the nail on the head, and avoiding some frivolous law suit.

You never know, but I would think he could become a liability to the site owner. If legal action was ever to be brought about, he most certainly would be the actual cause of said legal action... JMHO

CJ

Agree CaptnJerry. You can't erase the internet.

Go RI/RV..

by GoodGosh Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:44 pm

There is a disclaimer on this site that protects those posting intel. And for those who would have such an idea in the first place.... Put Your Big Girl Panties On and Deal With It! NO-ONE here or on any other forum out there has the date or the rate!!!

I thought kindergarten was over a LONG time ago!!!

GG

by therealbutterfly Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:10 pm

GoodGosh wrote:There is a disclaimer on this site that protects those posting intel. And for those who would have such an idea in the first place.... Put Your Big Girl Panties On and Deal With It! NO-ONE here or on any other forum out there has the date or the rate!!!

I thought kindergarten was over a LONG time ago!!!

GG

Disclaimers and warnings are great but dont protect fully. I know of many lawsuits against tanning salons even tho those customers signed documents saying they know that what the risks are. If there is a lawyer willing to take the case, there will be lawsuits. Just how our country is. Not saying its right, just how it is. People always looking to blame someone for their situation. Which is why I am so adamant on those that claim certain things on these sites to declare its their opinion only and not any guarantee. They are settin themselves up for problems if they dont......

by LookingAtTheHeavens Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:35 pm

They will have to worry about far more than just lawsuits. That is why I have to believe these people. If it is a hoax then they will have to hide under a rock for the rest of their lives. People know how to get ahold of Okie.I don't believe he is a fool and I don't believe he is faking being a Christian. No real Christian is going to risk their soul for a few dollars and I've heard his prayer calls. I've heard some fake Christians try to preach and pray and it has always been easy for me to distinguish them. I just wish that anyone that seriously doubts Okie would be forced to give him half their Dinar when this revalues, but I'm guessing you guys will disappear like a puff of smoke and never feel remorseful for the words and thoughts you have had about him.

by 1alaskan Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:42 pm

LookingAtTheHeavens wrote:They will have to worry about far more than just lawsuits. That is why I have to believe these people. If it is a hoax then they will have to hide under a rock for the rest of their lives. People know how to get ahold of Okie.I don't believe he is a fool and I don't believe he is faking being a Christian. No real Christian is going to risk their soul for a few dollars and I've heard his prayer calls. I've heard some fake Christians try to preach and pray and it has always been easy for me to distinguish them. I just wish that anyone that seriously doubts Okie would be forced to give him half their Dinar when this revalues, but I'm guessing you guys will disappear like a puff of smoke and never feel remorseful for the words and thoughts you have had about him.

They don's eem remorseful now, what makes you think anything will change after RV?, In today's world, sadly, it become, what can you do for me, not what can I do for you.

by peabody12 Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:44 pm

The problem with this site is that it is operated by humans that depend on other humans to feed it.

The long drawn-out Iraqi Dinar Revaluation drama has now caused the decline of the OOM Empire. Just like the Roman Empire --- It was not destroyed from without but from within.

But take heart, there is always tomorrow! Very Happy