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This Is Very Scary If TRUE
I received this information by e-mail, from a businessman that I have great respect for.
I have not yet had the time to personally investigate this, so I am submitting the info as I received it.
Maybe another member can help.
From a friend: this will RAISE your Blood Pressure
This is very scary, but true …………
Must Read Cancelled flight from Atlanta to Houston AW
This is Very Scary if True.
I, Gene Hackemack, received this email from my good friend Tedd Petruna, a diver at the NBL facility [Neutral Buoyancy Lab], at NASA Houston, whom I used to work with.
Tedd happened to be on this same Flt. 297, Atlanta to Houston.
In my opinion, the Muslims are all getting very brave now... read Tedd's story below.
PS: Can you imagine, our own news media now are so politically correct that they are afraid to report that these were all Muslims. unbelievable. Thank God for people like Tedd Petruna.
"One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father.... On Tuesday, the 17th, I returned home.
If you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb where a AirTran flight was cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before takeoff. It was on Fox.
This was NOT what happened.
I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the plane in full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back. As the plane taxied to the runway thestewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with.
At that time, one of the men got on his cell and called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively.
This took the 1st stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not permitted at the time. He ignored her as if she was not there.
The 2nd man who answered the phone did the same and this took out the 2nd stewardess.
In the back of the plane at this time, 2 younger Muslims, one in the back, isle, and one in front of him, window, began to show footage of a porno they had taped the night before, and were very loud about it. Now - they are only permitted to do this prior to Jihad.
If a Muslim man goes into a strip club, he has to view the woman via mirror with his back to her....(don't ask me..I don't make the rules, but I've studied).
The 3rd stewardess informed them that they were not to have electronic devices on at this time. To which one of the men said "shut up infidel dog!" She went to take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic.
At that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to walk toward the cabin.
This is where I had had enough! I got up and started to the back where I heard a voice behind me from another Texan twice my size say "I got your back." I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said: You Will Sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane!"
As I "led"him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck and his waist and headed out with him.... I then grabbed the 2nd man and said, "You WILL do the same!" He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go!
As I escorted him forward the plane doors open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered. Me and my new Texan friend were told to cease and desist for they had this under control.
I was happy to oblige actually. There was some commotion in the back, but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane.
They then unloaded their luggage.
We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happened, when suddenly, the door open again and in walked all 11!! Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can describe it).
The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it! Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal.
She told the TSA agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men.
The agent told her they had searched them and were going to go through their luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston.
The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent "we and our crew will not fly this plane!" After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. 5 minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.
Again.... this is where I had had enough!!! I got up and asked "What the heck is going on!?!?" I was told to take my seat.
They were sorry for the delay and I would be home shortly. I said "I'm getting off this plane".
The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off. (Now I'm mad!) I said "I am a grown man who bought this ticket, whose time is mine, with a family at home and I am going through that door, or I'm going through that door with you under my arm!! But I am going through that door!!" And I heard a voice behind me say "so am I".
Then everyone behind us started to get up and say the same.
Within 2 minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a statement. I had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the heck not. Due to the amount of people who got off that flight, it was canceled. I was supposed to be in Houston at 6 pm. I got here at 12:30 am.
Look up the date. Flight 297 Atlanta to Houston. If this wasn't a dry run, I don't know what one is.
The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it.
I'm telling this to you because I want you to know. The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes."
Tedd Petruna
I suggest to keep this going until this incident REACHES the email of all those POLITICIANS and NEWS MEDIA..If this wasn't a dry run, I don't know what one is. The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it.
I'm telling this to you because I want you to know. The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes."
Tedd Petruna
I suggest to keep this going until this incident REACHES the email of
all those POLITICIANS and NEWS MEDIA!!!!!!
Sincerely Yours,
Alan E. Rand
Dr. of Sci., I.H.F.
404-863-7258 , WORLD-WIDE-CELL
With prior request, via E-mail, I can be reached on SKYPE.
Listed as : “Dr. Alan Rand”
USHQ1@earthlink.net
DO NOT FORGET ! FREEDOM IS NOT FREE !
NEVER GIVE UP ! NEVER SURRENDER !
WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE !
HONOR, ABOVE, ALL!
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.

I have not yet had the time to personally investigate this, so I am submitting the info as I received it.
Maybe another member can help.

From a friend: this will RAISE your Blood Pressure
This is very scary, but true …………
Must Read Cancelled flight from Atlanta to Houston AW
This is Very Scary if True.
I, Gene Hackemack, received this email from my good friend Tedd Petruna, a diver at the NBL facility [Neutral Buoyancy Lab], at NASA Houston, whom I used to work with.
Tedd happened to be on this same Flt. 297, Atlanta to Houston.
In my opinion, the Muslims are all getting very brave now... read Tedd's story below.
PS: Can you imagine, our own news media now are so politically correct that they are afraid to report that these were all Muslims. unbelievable. Thank God for people like Tedd Petruna.
"One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father.... On Tuesday, the 17th, I returned home.
If you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb where a AirTran flight was cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before takeoff. It was on Fox.
This was NOT what happened.
I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the plane in full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back. As the plane taxied to the runway thestewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with.
At that time, one of the men got on his cell and called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and very aggressively.
This took the 1st stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not permitted at the time. He ignored her as if she was not there.
The 2nd man who answered the phone did the same and this took out the 2nd stewardess.
In the back of the plane at this time, 2 younger Muslims, one in the back, isle, and one in front of him, window, began to show footage of a porno they had taped the night before, and were very loud about it. Now - they are only permitted to do this prior to Jihad.
If a Muslim man goes into a strip club, he has to view the woman via mirror with his back to her....(don't ask me..I don't make the rules, but I've studied).
The 3rd stewardess informed them that they were not to have electronic devices on at this time. To which one of the men said "shut up infidel dog!" She went to take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic.
At that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to walk toward the cabin.
This is where I had had enough! I got up and started to the back where I heard a voice behind me from another Texan twice my size say "I got your back." I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said: You Will Sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane!"
As I "led"him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck and his waist and headed out with him.... I then grabbed the 2nd man and said, "You WILL do the same!" He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go!
As I escorted him forward the plane doors open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered. Me and my new Texan friend were told to cease and desist for they had this under control.
I was happy to oblige actually. There was some commotion in the back, but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane.
They then unloaded their luggage.
We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happened, when suddenly, the door open again and in walked all 11!! Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can describe it).
The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it! Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal.
She told the TSA agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men.
The agent told her they had searched them and were going to go through their luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston.
The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent "we and our crew will not fly this plane!" After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. 5 minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.
Again.... this is where I had had enough!!! I got up and asked "What the heck is going on!?!?" I was told to take my seat.
They were sorry for the delay and I would be home shortly. I said "I'm getting off this plane".
The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off. (Now I'm mad!) I said "I am a grown man who bought this ticket, whose time is mine, with a family at home and I am going through that door, or I'm going through that door with you under my arm!! But I am going through that door!!" And I heard a voice behind me say "so am I".
Then everyone behind us started to get up and say the same.
Within 2 minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a statement. I had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the heck not. Due to the amount of people who got off that flight, it was canceled. I was supposed to be in Houston at 6 pm. I got here at 12:30 am.
Look up the date. Flight 297 Atlanta to Houston. If this wasn't a dry run, I don't know what one is.
The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it.
I'm telling this to you because I want you to know. The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes."
Tedd Petruna
I suggest to keep this going until this incident REACHES the email of all those POLITICIANS and NEWS MEDIA..If this wasn't a dry run, I don't know what one is. The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it.
I'm telling this to you because I want you to know. The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes."
Tedd Petruna
I suggest to keep this going until this incident REACHES the email of
all those POLITICIANS and NEWS MEDIA!!!!!!
Sincerely Yours,
Alan E. Rand
Dr. of Sci., I.H.F.
404-863-7258 , WORLD-WIDE-CELL
With prior request, via E-mail, I can be reached on SKYPE.
Listed as : “Dr. Alan Rand”
USHQ1@earthlink.net
DO NOT FORGET ! FREEDOM IS NOT FREE !
NEVER GIVE UP ! NEVER SURRENDER !
WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE !
HONOR, ABOVE, ALL!
A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.

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If more folks would act this way, we would have fewer problems.
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Peppered? What, no assigned seating? This is very biased right there, IMO.
"I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the plane in full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back. As the plane taxied to the runway thestewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with."
"I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the plane in full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back. As the plane taxied to the runway thestewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with."
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How do we not know it was a TSA tactical training exercise? There are some things that do not make sense in the original post. Once the 11 men were taken off and cleared of the runway, the plane should have been cleared to take off!
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I know Muslims, this is just rediculous. Lol, take a mirror into a strip club? Where do they get this stuff?
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Sounds almost as made up as the 911 stories they told us...I'm surprised they didn't leave Korans every where
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My friend was telling me theres a Sura that says Christians are most like the Muslims (out of various religions) because of their love for each other and charity.
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This is an urban myth, a scam, a lie, a hoax - and the reason is very obvious... there was an issue with a cell phone but none of the craziness described here...
A businessman you have a lot of respect for sent this to you? Why? It's wonderful fun to hate people I guess?
Why would someone not check a totally ridiculous sounding story like this before sending to people who respect them? Beats me... YSK
Snopes: Flight 297
A businessman you have a lot of respect for sent this to you? Why? It's wonderful fun to hate people I guess?
Why would someone not check a totally ridiculous sounding story like this before sending to people who respect them? Beats me... YSK
Snopes: Flight 297
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yoursoulknows wrote:This is an urban myth, a scam, a lie, a hoax - and the reason is very obvious... there was an issue with a cell phone but none of the craziness described here...
A businessman you have a lot of respect for sent this to you? Why? It's wonderful fun to hate people I guess?
Why would someone not check a totally ridiculous sounding story like this before sending to people who respect them? Beats me... YSK
Snopes: Flight 297
Because this site has a lot of conspiracy theorists that are members on it.
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Was Alec Baldwin one of the terrorists?
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Why put this in print if the story has not been verified? Here we go again, I have a friend of a friend of a friend who told me. Please.
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Well, it just could be hard earned-easily wasted tax dollars at work to help make sure the woolen covers are securely tucked over unsuspecting eyes. Most anything seems possible at this time considering the PTB and their cruel amusements.
I prefer to think that it was exactly this so take it as you will, but it hardly seems likely that Muslims would want this type of attention and furthermore it falls into the Ripley category of absurdity ad infinitum.
I prefer to think that it was exactly this so take it as you will, but it hardly seems likely that Muslims would want this type of attention and furthermore it falls into the Ripley category of absurdity ad infinitum.
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about the only thing that may prevent the threat is to encourage ALL people to carry weapons on them at ALL times and use them if necessary...
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If you went to the snopes article you would have read what the mainstream said and can we believe them? You know it's their job to calm the masses! If the story is true what not a better job for the mainstream or else flying would plumet. Who really knows if either side is right or wrong, I tend to believe the private citizen over main stream media, especailly if it is one who was there, but who really knows, I quit flying when the naked body scanners went in. AJ
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AJAnderson wrote:If you went to the snopes article you would have read what the mainstream said and can we believe them? You know it's their job to calm the masses! If the story is true what not a better job for the mainstream or else flying would plumet. Who really knows if either side is right or wrong, I tend to believe the private citizen over main stream media, especailly if it is one who was there, but who really knows, I quit flying when the naked body scanners went in. AJ
This story is very old. Read the exact same thing LOOOONNNNGG ago!
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Perhaps good reasons to have a private aircraft and crew, or a portion ownership in one with other local dinarians, upon RV... ??
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If one is unable to discern the inflammatory language and bias of this hyped up article one will be carried away with myth and misdirection all ones life until better discernment is learned. I am thankful for the original poster, as it brought forth this conversation.
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alohajim wrote:Was Alec Baldwin one of the terrorists?
No, Alec came clean a while ago:
"We knew it: Alec Baldwin is an evil alien. All of a sudden, his preternatural comic timing makes total sense. Check out the best ad of the Superbowl. After sitting through the many trailers and Superbowl commercials, we're going to have to give the io9 gold star of excellence to Baldwin's Hulu ad. Sure astronauts and House Of Pain are fantastic combination, but nothing beats the Baldwin delivery —nothing. Plus it reveals his super evil plans to eat all of our brains and gives viewers a small tour of the underground Hulu lair beneath the Hollywood sign."
http://m.io9.com/5144423/alec-baldwin-finally-admits-his-alien-plan-for-world-domination
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m71m-LBqFQ
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"In the back of the plane at this time, 2 younger Muslims, one in the back, isle, and one in front of him, window, began to show footage of a porno they had taped the night before, and were very loud about it. Now - they are only permitted to do this prior to Jihad."
HOW DID HE KNOW THEY WERE WATCHING PORNO THE NIGHT BEFORE?
WAS HE WITH THEM THAT NIGHT?
OH PLEEEEESAAAAAASSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
HOW DID HE KNOW THEY WERE WATCHING PORNO THE NIGHT BEFORE?
WAS HE WITH THEM THAT NIGHT?
OH PLEEEEESAAAAAASSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
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And there just happened to be a whole replacement flight crew waiting at the gate - "Send Me In Coach". I've seen these bench warmers myself, disguised as baristas at the Starbucks next to the newsstand.
When he said “This was NOT what happened.” did he mean the news story or the next 5 paragraphs which read like the sequel to “Passenger 57” . LOL Really
When he said “This was NOT what happened.” did he mean the news story or the next 5 paragraphs which read like the sequel to “Passenger 57” . LOL Really
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And what did the replacement flight crew say to the crew refusing to fly as they passed each other in the jet way….? “Pussies!”
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I will tell you this, you may choose to believe it or not...
One psyop tactic is to show Islamic leaders in bad light, in moral perpetude, breaking the five pillars of that faith. Notice, when terrorists are caught, something about porn caches are usually included. Sometimes, insurgents of this moral character are promoted purposely to ranks of leadership for this very purpose. One could examine the blow back influence at this point. What would happen if the CIA quit trying to destabilize Islam with such measures? Would we have fewer insane 'Muslim' terrorists? This article is designed to incite fear and loathing in a certain demographic. It is a shame that individuals actually believe such things and are carried away by them.
One psyop tactic is to show Islamic leaders in bad light, in moral perpetude, breaking the five pillars of that faith. Notice, when terrorists are caught, something about porn caches are usually included. Sometimes, insurgents of this moral character are promoted purposely to ranks of leadership for this very purpose. One could examine the blow back influence at this point. What would happen if the CIA quit trying to destabilize Islam with such measures? Would we have fewer insane 'Muslim' terrorists? This article is designed to incite fear and loathing in a certain demographic. It is a shame that individuals actually believe such things and are carried away by them.
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Who cares what 'snoops' says- Snopes is run by a husband and wife Saul Alinski protege' team and George Soros has his hand in it as well as google-
they would have us believe everything shedding a bad light on PTB are urban myths.
they would have us believe everything shedding a bad light on PTB are urban myths.
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globalbiz wrote:about the only thing that may prevent the threat is to encourage ALL people to carry weapons on them at ALL times and use them if necessary...
Try boarding an airplane with a weapon and see how far you get!
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Snopes tried to disregard "OIL" Operation Iraqi Liberation. Nope, not always right.
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The hijackers one should be most concerned about are not those who target physical means of conveyance, but rather those who hijack conveyance of thought and belief. The later targets religous ideology and political ideology. Through these tactics they have hijacked entire countries and religous groups.
To tie in with my previous post, why did Moussaoui have Eric Prince's firm's number in his notebook?
"A page of Zacarias Moussaoui’s notebook with a
phone number for the security contractor
Blackwater. [Source: US District Court for the
Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division]
Zacarias Moussaoui writes the phone number for
the private security contractor Blackwater in his
notebook."
Note: the pdf link worked at one time but no longer. Below is a link to the website...
www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a022401moussaouiblackwater
To tie in with my previous post, why did Moussaoui have Eric Prince's firm's number in his notebook?
"A page of Zacarias Moussaoui’s notebook with a
phone number for the security contractor
Blackwater. [Source: US District Court for the
Eastern District of Virginia, Alexandria Division]
Zacarias Moussaoui writes the phone number for
the private security contractor Blackwater in his
notebook."
Note: the pdf link worked at one time but no longer. Below is a link to the website...
www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a022401moussaouiblackwater
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Hey HappyWelshGuy;
Please know that my comments here are in no way meant to discredit you or the person who sent you this post (as they likely received it elsewhere too from someone trusted and thought it would be good to forward. It is something that has gone around before and has been changed here and there as well)
Unfortunately, stories like these are invented to create, prejudism, dissention, fear, anger as well as religious fervour as to who is right or wrong.
Often people are even hired by the controllers to create such stories to back up their a-moral plans and to justify things like - gee, let me see - starting more war in the ME? "proof" that people from the ME are actually terrorists? Sheesh!
Talk about being careful about reading disinformation..........................
Please know that my comments here are in no way meant to discredit you or the person who sent you this post (as they likely received it elsewhere too from someone trusted and thought it would be good to forward. It is something that has gone around before and has been changed here and there as well)
Unfortunately, stories like these are invented to create, prejudism, dissention, fear, anger as well as religious fervour as to who is right or wrong.
Often people are even hired by the controllers to create such stories to back up their a-moral plans and to justify things like - gee, let me see - starting more war in the ME? "proof" that people from the ME are actually terrorists? Sheesh!
Talk about being careful about reading disinformation..........................
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Alec Baldwin is not involved in this.

alohajim wrote:Was Alec Baldwin one of the terrorists?
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This is not a friend of a friend of a friend and if you read the post in it's entirity, you would know that.
The reason I posted this is so that everyone has the potential to read the information and make their own judgement.
Sorry, but at this time of year I simply don;t have the time to get involved in an investigation.
Please feel free to do so yourself .
There is a Name, an e-mail address and a Telephone # to get you started.
The reason I posted this is so that everyone has the potential to read the information and make their own judgement.
Sorry, but at this time of year I simply don;t have the time to get involved in an investigation.
Please feel free to do so yourself .
There is a Name, an e-mail address and a Telephone # to get you started.

Searay 32 wrote:Why put this in print if the story has not been verified? Here we go again, I have a friend of a friend of a friend who told me. Please.
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Check out ActForAmerica.com Thank you Happyweishguy, for sharing. As Americans, we are going to have to know what we believe. My family has had to wake up to such reality. We all should pay more attention to the court hearings where some American citizens are trying to expose the TRUE Muslim agenda in the USA. If this story above is accurate or not, it is good to be aware, please open your eyes and pay more attention. May want to read ActforAmerica.com I am afraid to write what I have learned from honest Christian legal leaders and "o"'s opposing actions. I am very sorry if I offend anyone in my home land of the FREE, I write this with forever love to ALL. " Don't worry about your future as long as you know who holds your future"! Merry Christ mas and a better change in 2012.
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Not a problem.....
I posted this to create an awareness (which is never bad) and to allow a person to review the post and make a judgement...
I believed that with a name, e-mail and telephone # it gave the post some credability.
Normally, I would investigate this myself, but at this time of year, i'm exceptionally busy and cannot do so.
I posted this to create an awareness (which is never bad) and to allow a person to review the post and make a judgement...
I believed that with a name, e-mail and telephone # it gave the post some credability.
Normally, I would investigate this myself, but at this time of year, i'm exceptionally busy and cannot do so.

GoldPeg9 wrote:Hey
HappyWelshGuy;
Please know that my comments here are in no way meant to discredit you or the person who sent you this post (as they likely received it elsewhere too from someone trusted and thought it would be good to forward. It is something that has gone around before and has been changed here and there as well)
Unfortunately, stories like these are invented to create, prejudism, dissention, fear, anger as well as religious fervour as to who is right or wrong.
Often people are even hired by the controllers to create such stories to back up their a-moral plans and to justify things like - gee, let me see - starting more war in the ME? "proof" that people from the ME are actually terrorists? Sheesh!
Talk about being careful about reading disinformation..........................
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Once again, thank you for posting this so that it could be discussed!
happywelshguy wrote:This is not a friend of a friend of a friend and if you read the post in it's entirity, you would know that.
The reason I posted this is so that everyone has the potential to read the information and make their own judgement.
Sorry, but at this time of year I simply don;t have the time to get involved in an investigation.
Please feel free to do so yourself .
There is a Name, an e-mail address and a Telephone # to get you started.
Searay 32 wrote:Why put this in print if the story has not been verified? Here we go again, I have a friend of a friend of a friend who told me. Please.
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"ACT! for America leader Brigitte Gabriel claims an American Muslim "cannot be a loyal citizen" and that Islam is the "real enemy." She once told the Australian Jewish News: "Every practicing Muslim is a radical Muslim." She also claimed that "Islamo-fascism is a politically-correct word... it's the vehicle for Islam... Islam is the problem." When asked whether Americans should "resist Muslims who want to seek political office in this nation," Gabriel said: "Absolutely. If a Muslim who has --who is --a practicing Muslim who believes the word of the Koran to be the word of Allah, who abides by Islam, who goes to mosque and prays every Friday, who prays five times a day --this practicing Muslim, who believes in the teachings of the Koran, cannot be a loyal citizen to the United States of America."
http://m.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cair-fla-muslim-asks-fbi-to-probe-harassment-by-hate-group-90254207.html
http://m.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cair-fla-muslim-asks-fbi-to-probe-harassment-by-hate-group-90254207.html
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Unfortunately Alchemist is correct. You cannot follow the Koran and be loyal to any other religion. They are taught that lying to the infidel is right to do in order to deceive them.
England has been warning us... Other Countries have set the example as to what needs to be done. But that's only if we want to keep America close to what it is now. I'm not sure there are enough now that really care... Just my opinion from what I read and the people we talk to. I hope to be wrong but you can see how fast we are spiriling in the current direction.
Also, just for the record everyone - SNOOPS has been caught lying. Yes, I have seen a post on it. They are a husband and wife team who are way off to the left and they do and will lie to promote the leftist agenda. I believed the E-mail on this and have stayed away from them ever since.
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England has been warning us... Other Countries have set the example as to what needs to be done. But that's only if we want to keep America close to what it is now. I'm not sure there are enough now that really care... Just my opinion from what I read and the people we talk to. I hope to be wrong but you can see how fast we are spiriling in the current direction.
Also, just for the record everyone - SNOOPS has been caught lying. Yes, I have seen a post on it. They are a husband and wife team who are way off to the left and they do and will lie to promote the leftist agenda. I believed the E-mail on this and have stayed away from them ever since.
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"Gabriel is listed as a speaker with the Hasbara
Fellowships. Hasbara Fellowships are run by Aish
Hatorah International, an organization aligned
with the Israeli Likud Party, which has close ties
to the producers of "Obsession."
"As a fervent proponent of the "clash of
civilizations," Gabriel portrays Arabs and
Palestinians as hateful and barbaric, while the
West and Israel are held up as the epitome of
developed culture and democracy. "The
difference, my friends, between Israel and the
Arabic world is the difference between
civilization and barbarism. It's the difference
between goodness and evil [applause]"
www.jewsonfirst.org/obsession/gabriel.html
Fellowships. Hasbara Fellowships are run by Aish
Hatorah International, an organization aligned
with the Israeli Likud Party, which has close ties
to the producers of "Obsession."
"As a fervent proponent of the "clash of
civilizations," Gabriel portrays Arabs and
Palestinians as hateful and barbaric, while the
West and Israel are held up as the epitome of
developed culture and democracy. "The
difference, my friends, between Israel and the
Arabic world is the difference between
civilization and barbarism. It's the difference
between goodness and evil [applause]"
www.jewsonfirst.org/obsession/gabriel.html
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"BACKGROUND ON BRIGITTE GABRIEL Gabriel
has started two organizations, American
Congress for Truth (ACT) and now ACT for
America. Bob Smietana notes The list of people
on the anti-Islam circuit goes on. IRS filings
from 2008 show that Robert Spencer, who runs
the Jihadwatch.org blog, earned $132,537 from
the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a
conservative nonprofit. Brigitte Tudor, who runs
the anti-Islam groups ACT! For America and the
American Congress for Truth, earned $152,810,
while her colleague Guy Rogers collected $
154,900. ACT! (American Congress for Truth)
launched the website Stop Shariah Now. Its
founder, Brigitte Gabriel, has claimed that al-
Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist
organizations supported Obama for president
because, she insisted, he is Muslim. Gabriel, a
frequent guest on Fox News and at Christian
Zionist gatherings, has said, “every practicing
Muslim is a radical Muslim.” The Stop Shariah
website maintains that examples of sharia law
include beating of “disobedient” women and
girls, execution of homosexuals, polygamy,
forced child marriages, stoning and lashing of
adulterers, and execution of apostates. ** The
Southern Poverty Law Center says about
American Congress for Truth and it’s campaign
against Parvez Ahmed: The American Congress
for Truth (ACT), an anti-Muslim group run by
firebrand Brigitte Gabriel, has targeted a Muslim
professor serving on a human rights board in
Florida, accusing him of having ties to radical
Islamic groups and serving as a “mosque
operative” in city government. ... Brigitte Gabriel
is a provocative author and lecturer, a
Lebanese-Christian who came to the United
States after surviving the civil war that tore apart
the land of her birth. She has made it her
mission – one might say her crusade – to warn
that radical Muslims, a term she defines as all
practicing Muslims, are bent on taking over the
West. "
christianvguide.com/news/?index=240
has started two organizations, American
Congress for Truth (ACT) and now ACT for
America. Bob Smietana notes The list of people
on the anti-Islam circuit goes on. IRS filings
from 2008 show that Robert Spencer, who runs
the Jihadwatch.org blog, earned $132,537 from
the David Horowitz Freedom Center, a
conservative nonprofit. Brigitte Tudor, who runs
the anti-Islam groups ACT! For America and the
American Congress for Truth, earned $152,810,
while her colleague Guy Rogers collected $
154,900. ACT! (American Congress for Truth)
launched the website Stop Shariah Now. Its
founder, Brigitte Gabriel, has claimed that al-
Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist
organizations supported Obama for president
because, she insisted, he is Muslim. Gabriel, a
frequent guest on Fox News and at Christian
Zionist gatherings, has said, “every practicing
Muslim is a radical Muslim.” The Stop Shariah
website maintains that examples of sharia law
include beating of “disobedient” women and
girls, execution of homosexuals, polygamy,
forced child marriages, stoning and lashing of
adulterers, and execution of apostates. ** The
Southern Poverty Law Center says about
American Congress for Truth and it’s campaign
against Parvez Ahmed: The American Congress
for Truth (ACT), an anti-Muslim group run by
firebrand Brigitte Gabriel, has targeted a Muslim
professor serving on a human rights board in
Florida, accusing him of having ties to radical
Islamic groups and serving as a “mosque
operative” in city government. ... Brigitte Gabriel
is a provocative author and lecturer, a
Lebanese-Christian who came to the United
States after surviving the civil war that tore apart
the land of her birth. She has made it her
mission – one might say her crusade – to warn
that radical Muslims, a term she defines as all
practicing Muslims, are bent on taking over the
West. "
christianvguide.com/news/?index=240
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Yes their are 'bad' Muslims led by religous rhetoric and mythologies. Just as the Bible can be tore apart taking isolated quotes out of context, so can the Koran.
Peppermint Patti wrote:Unfortunately Alchemist is correct. You cannot follow the Koran and be loyal to any other religion. They are taught that lying to the infidel is right to do in order to deceive them.
England has been warning us... Other Countries have set the example as to what needs to be done. But that's only if we want to keep America close to what it is now. I'm not sure there are enough now that really care... Just my opinion from what I read and the people we talk to. I hope to be wrong but you can see how fast we are spiriling in the current direction.
Also, just for the record everyone - SNOOPS has been caught lying. Yes, I have seen a post on it. They are a husband and wife team who are way off to the left and they do and will lie to promote the leftist agenda. I believed the E-mail on this and have stayed away from them ever since.
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While you're looking over there, your not looking over here...
www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20Editorials/2011/November/22%20o/How%20Zionists%20Control%20Corrupt%20US%20Congress,%20CBS%20Interview%20With%20Jack%20Abramoff.htm
www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20Editorials/2011/November/22%20o/How%20Zionists%20Control%20Corrupt%20US%20Congress,%20CBS%20Interview%20With%20Jack%20Abramoff.htm
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Alchemist,
Please reread my post. I never said anything about "bad" muslims. Maybe the post wasn't clear enough for you to understand. How can a person serve 2 masters? He will either love the one and hate the other.
Muslims that follow their religion are like Christians that follow their religion (way of life). They do according to what their religion teaches. It may seem good to one person and bad to another. That's why I don't believe in judging any of them. To me it was my blessing to be raised Christian. For them I am sure they would feel the same. I say God Bless them and sooner or later we will all have the true picture laid out before us. Very soon according to the Bible which also describes their master returning. I believe if you ask any of them they would tell you this is true also.
Now, judging a bad act, yes I can tell the difference there. But reading someones heart, it's not my job and I believe in letting God do His job while I do the best at mine.
I would appreciate it if you would show me where I took an isolated quote out of the Bible or the Koran for that matter. It appears you may have been insinuating that's what I did? Whatever I know from the Koran has come from a Muslin..
There is only one True God, but unfortunately people make God's out of everything. Their house, their car, money, etc. It is whatever you worship, that is your God.
I would also like to apologize for misunderstanding you and thank you for the clarification...
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Please reread my post. I never said anything about "bad" muslims. Maybe the post wasn't clear enough for you to understand. How can a person serve 2 masters? He will either love the one and hate the other.
Muslims that follow their religion are like Christians that follow their religion (way of life). They do according to what their religion teaches. It may seem good to one person and bad to another. That's why I don't believe in judging any of them. To me it was my blessing to be raised Christian. For them I am sure they would feel the same. I say God Bless them and sooner or later we will all have the true picture laid out before us. Very soon according to the Bible which also describes their master returning. I believe if you ask any of them they would tell you this is true also.
Now, judging a bad act, yes I can tell the difference there. But reading someones heart, it's not my job and I believe in letting God do His job while I do the best at mine.
I would appreciate it if you would show me where I took an isolated quote out of the Bible or the Koran for that matter. It appears you may have been insinuating that's what I did? Whatever I know from the Koran has come from a Muslin..
There is only one True God, but unfortunately people make God's out of everything. Their house, their car, money, etc. It is whatever you worship, that is your God.
I would also like to apologize for misunderstanding you and thank you for the clarification...
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I appologize for any misunderstanding. This threw me off:
"They are taught that lying to the infidel is right to do in order to deceive them."
I think that needs a context. I said 'bad Muslims.' I also say 'bad 'Christians,' 'Jews,' etc... pointing out that the mis-deeds of a few are not representative of the whole.
It is interesting that in moderate Islam, salvation is not dependant on conversion to Islam. Their religion at its best is extremely inclusive, at its worst, very scary.
"They are taught that lying to the infidel is right to do in order to deceive them."
I think that needs a context. I said 'bad Muslims.' I also say 'bad 'Christians,' 'Jews,' etc... pointing out that the mis-deeds of a few are not representative of the whole.
It is interesting that in moderate Islam, salvation is not dependant on conversion to Islam. Their religion at its best is extremely inclusive, at its worst, very scary.
Peppermint Patti wrote:Alchemist,
Please reread my post. I never said anything about "bad" muslims. Maybe the post wasn't clear enough for you to understand. How can a person serve 2 masters? He will either love the one and hate the other.
Muslims that follow their religion are like Christians that follow their religion (way of life). They do according to what their religion teaches. It may seem good to one person and bad to another. That's why I don't believe in judging any of them. To me it was my blessing to be raised Christian. For them I am sure they would feel the same. I say God Bless them and sooner or later we will all have the true picture laid out before us. Very soon according to the Bible which also describes their master returning. I believe if you ask any of them they would tell you this is true also.
Now, judging a bad act, yes I can tell the difference there. But reading someones heart, it's not my job and I believe in letting God do His job while I do the best at mine.
I would appreciate it if you would show me where I took an isolated quote out of the Bible or the Koran for that matter. It appears you may have been insinuating that's what I did? Whatever I know from the Koran has come from a Muslin..
There is only one True God, but unfortunately people make God's out of everything. Their house, their car, money, etc. It is whatever you worship, that is your God.
I would also like to apologize for misunderstanding you and thank you for the clarification...
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"Only one life will soon be past, only what's done for Christ will last."
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This is just some profiling crap right here.
So they we're Muslims why? Because they spoke Arabic. And what is muslim "full atire"? A koofie? Or are you talking about a dishdasha, which has NOTHING to do with being muslim.
The guy that wrote this is behaving like a stereotypical Texan. Ignorance is peppered throughout more than those arabs. If this story even happened which I doubt.
And muslim are NEVER ALLOWED to go to strip clubs or watch pornography. I don't know what he studied but he would have been better off not studying at all.
All this article does is breed prejudice and hate. I wonder how many times people notice 11 Russian men getting on a plain...
God, Americans can be so narrow minded and they have horrible memories.
So now it is Arabs turn to be political and social pariahs of America.
First the Native Americans, then the Spanish, then the blacks, then the Jews, then the Germans, then the Russians and Asians, now the Arabs.
Remember America, remember how passionately many of you prejudged and hated all these groups? When is enough enough. When will articles like this have no place in American society.
The greatest country in the world... Act like it.
So they we're Muslims why? Because they spoke Arabic. And what is muslim "full atire"? A koofie? Or are you talking about a dishdasha, which has NOTHING to do with being muslim.
The guy that wrote this is behaving like a stereotypical Texan. Ignorance is peppered throughout more than those arabs. If this story even happened which I doubt.
And muslim are NEVER ALLOWED to go to strip clubs or watch pornography. I don't know what he studied but he would have been better off not studying at all.
All this article does is breed prejudice and hate. I wonder how many times people notice 11 Russian men getting on a plain...
God, Americans can be so narrow minded and they have horrible memories.
So now it is Arabs turn to be political and social pariahs of America.
First the Native Americans, then the Spanish, then the blacks, then the Jews, then the Germans, then the Russians and Asians, now the Arabs.
Remember America, remember how passionately many of you prejudged and hated all these groups? When is enough enough. When will articles like this have no place in American society.
The greatest country in the world... Act like it.
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It's NOT just theirs "at it's worst, very scary". Remember the Inquisition?
[quote="Alchemist"]I appologize for any misunderstanding. This threw me off:
"They are taught that lying to the infidel is right to do in order to deceive them."
I think that needs a context. I said 'bad Muslims.' I also say 'bad 'Christians,' 'Jews,' etc... pointing out that the mis-deeds of a few are not representative of the whole.
It is interesting that in moderate Islam, salvation is not dependant on conversion to Islam. Their religion at its best is extremely inclusive, at its worst, very scary.
[quote="Alchemist"]I appologize for any misunderstanding. This threw me off:
"They are taught that lying to the infidel is right to do in order to deceive them."
I think that needs a context. I said 'bad Muslims.' I also say 'bad 'Christians,' 'Jews,' etc... pointing out that the mis-deeds of a few are not representative of the whole.
It is interesting that in moderate Islam, salvation is not dependant on conversion to Islam. Their religion at its best is extremely inclusive, at its worst, very scary.
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Agreed!
[quote="GoldPeg9"]It's NOT just theirs "at it's worst, very scary". Remember the Inquisition?
[quote="GoldPeg9"]It's NOT just theirs "at it's worst, very scary". Remember the Inquisition?
Alchemist wrote:I appologize for any misunderstanding. This threw me off:
"They are taught that lying to the infidel is right to do in order to deceive them."
I think that needs a context. I said 'bad Muslims.' I also say 'bad 'Christians,' 'Jews,' etc... pointing out that the mis-deeds of a few are not representative of the whole.
It is interesting that in moderate Islam, salvation is not dependant on conversion to Islam. Their religion at its best is extremely inclusive, at its worst, very scary.
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Muhammad said: "Lying is wrong, except in
three things: the lie of a man to his wife to
make her content with him; a lie to an enemy,
for war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble
between people" [Ahmad, 6.459. H]
Gee honey, those jeans don't make you look fat at all!
Can you imagine a Navy Seal telling the truth in interrogation by an enemy?
The last one, let's call a 'white lie.' Something that is harmless, meant to spare another grief. Not so different from us, huhh? Just being real!
three things: the lie of a man to his wife to
make her content with him; a lie to an enemy,
for war is deception; or a lie to settle trouble
between people" [Ahmad, 6.459. H]
Gee honey, those jeans don't make you look fat at all!
Can you imagine a Navy Seal telling the truth in interrogation by an enemy?
The last one, let's call a 'white lie.' Something that is harmless, meant to spare another grief. Not so different from us, huhh? Just being real!
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SCRIPTURAL FOUNDATION FOR DISCERNMENT:
1 Thes 5:21 "By all means use your judgment, and hold on to whatever is good."
Luke 12:57 "Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right?"
Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given unto him.
Luke 11:9 "So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you."
Heb 4:12 the word of God is living and active... it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
Phil 1:9 This is my prayer for you: I pray that your love will keep on growing more and more, together with true knowledge and perfect judgment...
1 Ki 3:9 So give your servant a discerning heart to govern your people and to distinguish between right and wrong...
John 7:24 "Do not judge superficially, but be just in your judgments.
1 Cor 2:14-16 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment... we have the mind of Christ.
John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
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It has become commonplace in the church that we are not supposed to not judge others. I have even heard people quote:” “You Christians should not judge others that's what the bible says.” Hear it all the time.
What is really sad is to hear Christians stating the same, having gone to church for most of their lives.
I guess that why 1 Cor 2:14 was written:
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment... we have the mind of Christ.
So we are supposed to set on the sidelines of life and keep quite so as to not offend anyone and be politically correct. Meanwhile America has kicked God out of the schools by removing Prayer, kicked God out of the Government by removing the Ten Commandments, and many have been forbidden to say the name of Jesus and are embarrassed to offend. Do we not discern the hour we are living?
This post by the HappyWelshGuy should be a wake up call for Americans of ALL colors to get off a@# and realize that we are not using sound judgment at all. In fact we are fulfilling:
Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
This is a Christian Nation regardless of what Barack Hussein Obama stated, he is temporally holding that office and my prayer is that he is replaced by God fearing Christian in the next election by a landslide.
Seems that many are drinking the cool-aid these days and singing "Kumbaya" while the enemy is taking over America by this politically correct garbage each and everyday on television and the net. If we do not stand up for righteousness and our Judeo-Christian beliefs, we are not going to have a country much longer because it is sinking fast. This is one Nation Under the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and our Founding Fathers did not intend for this country to get this far off the path from Christ. We are all to blame, but we can sure make a difference in the next election when the silent giant,” The CHURCH” goes out and votes righteousness back into White-house.
So here is a true story, and it is not my intentions at all to cause fear, hate, or prejudice. It is to simply cause you to discern the truth about Islam and what you did not hear on the news. The elections are coming up and you might just realize that Barrack Hussein Obama is not who he says he is and Islam is not a peaceful at all…Do you clearly understand the meaning of an infidel?
Passenger: 'You're all going to die'
Southwest flight makes emergency landing
Posted: October 18, 2011 - 9:42pm
Somewhere in the heavens above Amarillo, angry shouts rang out from the back of Southwest Airlines Flight 3683.
“You’re all going to die,” a man dressed in black screamed at passengers Tuesday afternoon. “You’re all going to heck. Allahu Akbar,” translated as God is great in Arabic.
Federal authorities arrested Ali Reza Shahsavari, 29, of Indialantic, Fla., onboard the Boeing 737 after pilots made an emergency landing at Rick Husband Amarillo International Airport at 3:30 p.m. He is being held in the Randall County jail on a federal charge of interfering with a flight crew.
None of the 136 passengers and five crew members on the flight from Los Angeles to Kansas City was hurt, said Brad Hawkins, spokesman for Dallas-based Southwest.
Police said the incident began with Shahsavari arguing with another passenger. The flight crew separated the men, said Amarillo police Cpl. Jerry Neufeld.
Shahsavari went into a bathroom and yelled obscenities from the rear of the plane, said passenger Doug Oerding, of Sacramento, Calif. Attendants tried to calm Shahsavari before a female flight attendant finally succeeded in quieting him. Oerding said.
As the tension mounted, the aircraft began to gain speed and descend, Oerding said. The slender Navy veteran said he put his shoes back on in preparation to act.
“All of us guys were looking at him like, ‘Are we going to have to do something?’” Oerding said after finishing a cigarette outside the Amarillo terminal while waiting to reboard the plane.
Amarillo Aviation Director Patrick Rhodes said an emergency call was placed about 3:30 p.m. to the control tower at Rick Husband. The caller initially reported a male passenger was attempting to break into the cockpit, Rhodes said. Amarillo police said the call came from the cockpit.
“He was being disruptive and unruly on the flight, but he was not specifically trying to break into the cockpit,” Rhodes said.
When the plane reached a gate at the airport, police boarded it and arrested Shahsavari without incident, Neufeld said.
“He was waiting at the door when we went in,” Neufeld said. “He cooperated with officers.”
FBI Special Agent Mark White, based in Dallas, said the event did not appear to be an act of terrorism. He described Shahsavari as a U.S. citizen who might have experienced an episode of mental illness.
“It sounded like he sort of lost control of himself,” White said.
The aircraft diverted shortly after the incident, authorities said. The plane taxied to Gate 7 after landing, Rhodes said.
More than a dozen Amarillo detectives went to the airport to gather affidavits from passengers, officials said. The passengers were escorted from the plane to a secure area of the airport and were questioned before reboarding, police said.
The plane took off for Kansas City shortly after 5:30 p.m. The aircraft’s final destination was Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman Sarah Horowitz said investigators were still gathering information on the incident Tuesday evening.
TSA agents removed Shahsavari’s luggage from the plane, searched it and turned it over to his unidentified sister, who was traveling with him, Neufeld said.
The sister stayed in Amarillo overnight, Neufeld said. He said there was a language barrier for investigators attempting to interview Shahsavari, who is of Iranian descent. Shahsavari was born in Mississippi, Neufeld said.
Neufeld said he did not know if there was an air marshal on the flight.
Aziza Musa, Michael Schumacher, Russell Anglin, Brittany Nunn, Jacob Mayer and Jim McBride contributed to this article.
http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2011-10-18/passenger-youre-all-going-die#.Tu5rgeE065c.email
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STRONGTOWER1
Please do not fall into the foolish mindset that Islam is a friendly peaceful religion. It isn’t Islamophobia when they really are trying to kill you.
While Iraq was not listed in 2010’s Hall of Shame, attacks against Christians rose at an alarming rate and were significant enough to make their mark in 2011’s report. On October 31, Islamic militants linked to Al-Qaeda took a Catholic congregation hostage for more than four hours before Iraqi security intervened. In the end, two priests and more than 50 worshippers were killed in what was the largest massacre of Christians since the Iraq war began in 2003. Soon after, Al-Qaeda declared Christians as “legitimate targets,” and attacks against Christians have escalated ever since. On November 10, thirteen bomb raids on Christian homes in Baghdad killed six. On November 16, gunmen burst into a Christian home in northern Iraq and murdered two men in their living room. On November 17, a bomb was intentionally wired in a Christian’s vehicle in Mosul, killing a Christian man and his 6-year-old daughter. On November 22, militants shot two Christian brothers dead inside their vehicle workshop in Mosul. That same day, an elderly Christian woman was found strangled in her home. On December 5, gunmen murdered an elderly couple in their Baghdad home during the night. And the list goes on.
As religious divisions in Iraq broaden, and minorities are maneuvered like political pawns, Iraqi Christians face the reality that they have been deserted – left vulnerable and defenseless by those authorized to protect them, and not permitted to raise their voices loud enough to be heard. Since the war’s beginning in 2003, three quarters of Baghdad’s Christians have fled the city. Nearly half of all Iraq’s Christians have left the country completely, resulting in the largest exodus of Christians in modern times. Without security or employment, most have no desire to return.
Their stories:
Jowaneh Benjamin, an Assyrian Christian from Baghdad, lost nearly everything in the Iraq war. Driving home from work one evening, Jowaneh’s daughters Ebtisam and Enas were ambushed by Muslim militants. The young women were targeted because they were Christian and worked for a U.S. contractor. One was yanked onto the street and shot eleven times. The other was murdered in the backseat. The grief was unbearable for Jowaneh. “I wish I had died and not my daughters... It should have been me... It should have been me...” Jowaneh’s husband died a few days later from a broken heart over his daughters’ deaths.
http://www.persecution.org/pdf/2011HallofShame.pdf
Lord open our eyes to the truth
1 Thes 5:21 "By all means use your judgment, and hold on to whatever is good."
Luke 12:57 "Why don't you judge for yourselves what is right?"
Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
James 1:5 If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given unto him.
Luke 11:9 "So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you."
Heb 4:12 the word of God is living and active... it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.
Phil 1:9 This is my prayer for you: I pray that your love will keep on growing more and more, together with true knowledge and perfect judgment...
1 Ki 3:9 So give your servant a discerning heart to govern your people and to distinguish between right and wrong...
John 7:24 "Do not judge superficially, but be just in your judgments.
1 Cor 2:14-16 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment... we have the mind of Christ.
John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
STRONGTOWER1
It has become commonplace in the church that we are not supposed to not judge others. I have even heard people quote:” “You Christians should not judge others that's what the bible says.” Hear it all the time.
What is really sad is to hear Christians stating the same, having gone to church for most of their lives.
I guess that why 1 Cor 2:14 was written:
The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment... we have the mind of Christ.
So we are supposed to set on the sidelines of life and keep quite so as to not offend anyone and be politically correct. Meanwhile America has kicked God out of the schools by removing Prayer, kicked God out of the Government by removing the Ten Commandments, and many have been forbidden to say the name of Jesus and are embarrassed to offend. Do we not discern the hour we are living?
This post by the HappyWelshGuy should be a wake up call for Americans of ALL colors to get off a@# and realize that we are not using sound judgment at all. In fact we are fulfilling:
Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
This is a Christian Nation regardless of what Barack Hussein Obama stated, he is temporally holding that office and my prayer is that he is replaced by God fearing Christian in the next election by a landslide.
Seems that many are drinking the cool-aid these days and singing "Kumbaya" while the enemy is taking over America by this politically correct garbage each and everyday on television and the net. If we do not stand up for righteousness and our Judeo-Christian beliefs, we are not going to have a country much longer because it is sinking fast. This is one Nation Under the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and our Founding Fathers did not intend for this country to get this far off the path from Christ. We are all to blame, but we can sure make a difference in the next election when the silent giant,” The CHURCH” goes out and votes righteousness back into White-house.
So here is a true story, and it is not my intentions at all to cause fear, hate, or prejudice. It is to simply cause you to discern the truth about Islam and what you did not hear on the news. The elections are coming up and you might just realize that Barrack Hussein Obama is not who he says he is and Islam is not a peaceful at all…Do you clearly understand the meaning of an infidel?
Passenger: 'You're all going to die'
Southwest flight makes emergency landing
Posted: October 18, 2011 - 9:42pm
Somewhere in the heavens above Amarillo, angry shouts rang out from the back of Southwest Airlines Flight 3683.
“You’re all going to die,” a man dressed in black screamed at passengers Tuesday afternoon. “You’re all going to heck. Allahu Akbar,” translated as God is great in Arabic.
Federal authorities arrested Ali Reza Shahsavari, 29, of Indialantic, Fla., onboard the Boeing 737 after pilots made an emergency landing at Rick Husband Amarillo International Airport at 3:30 p.m. He is being held in the Randall County jail on a federal charge of interfering with a flight crew.
None of the 136 passengers and five crew members on the flight from Los Angeles to Kansas City was hurt, said Brad Hawkins, spokesman for Dallas-based Southwest.
Police said the incident began with Shahsavari arguing with another passenger. The flight crew separated the men, said Amarillo police Cpl. Jerry Neufeld.
Shahsavari went into a bathroom and yelled obscenities from the rear of the plane, said passenger Doug Oerding, of Sacramento, Calif. Attendants tried to calm Shahsavari before a female flight attendant finally succeeded in quieting him. Oerding said.
As the tension mounted, the aircraft began to gain speed and descend, Oerding said. The slender Navy veteran said he put his shoes back on in preparation to act.
“All of us guys were looking at him like, ‘Are we going to have to do something?’” Oerding said after finishing a cigarette outside the Amarillo terminal while waiting to reboard the plane.
Amarillo Aviation Director Patrick Rhodes said an emergency call was placed about 3:30 p.m. to the control tower at Rick Husband. The caller initially reported a male passenger was attempting to break into the cockpit, Rhodes said. Amarillo police said the call came from the cockpit.
“He was being disruptive and unruly on the flight, but he was not specifically trying to break into the cockpit,” Rhodes said.
When the plane reached a gate at the airport, police boarded it and arrested Shahsavari without incident, Neufeld said.
“He was waiting at the door when we went in,” Neufeld said. “He cooperated with officers.”
FBI Special Agent Mark White, based in Dallas, said the event did not appear to be an act of terrorism. He described Shahsavari as a U.S. citizen who might have experienced an episode of mental illness.
“It sounded like he sort of lost control of himself,” White said.
The aircraft diverted shortly after the incident, authorities said. The plane taxied to Gate 7 after landing, Rhodes said.
More than a dozen Amarillo detectives went to the airport to gather affidavits from passengers, officials said. The passengers were escorted from the plane to a secure area of the airport and were questioned before reboarding, police said.
The plane took off for Kansas City shortly after 5:30 p.m. The aircraft’s final destination was Fort Lauderdale, Fla.
Transportation Security Administration spokeswoman Sarah Horowitz said investigators were still gathering information on the incident Tuesday evening.
TSA agents removed Shahsavari’s luggage from the plane, searched it and turned it over to his unidentified sister, who was traveling with him, Neufeld said.
The sister stayed in Amarillo overnight, Neufeld said. He said there was a language barrier for investigators attempting to interview Shahsavari, who is of Iranian descent. Shahsavari was born in Mississippi, Neufeld said.
Neufeld said he did not know if there was an air marshal on the flight.
Aziza Musa, Michael Schumacher, Russell Anglin, Brittany Nunn, Jacob Mayer and Jim McBride contributed to this article.
http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2011-10-18/passenger-youre-all-going-die#.Tu5rgeE065c.email
Pronews 7 Raw Video: Plane makes emergency landing
STRONGTOWER1
Please do not fall into the foolish mindset that Islam is a friendly peaceful religion. It isn’t Islamophobia when they really are trying to kill you.
While Iraq was not listed in 2010’s Hall of Shame, attacks against Christians rose at an alarming rate and were significant enough to make their mark in 2011’s report. On October 31, Islamic militants linked to Al-Qaeda took a Catholic congregation hostage for more than four hours before Iraqi security intervened. In the end, two priests and more than 50 worshippers were killed in what was the largest massacre of Christians since the Iraq war began in 2003. Soon after, Al-Qaeda declared Christians as “legitimate targets,” and attacks against Christians have escalated ever since. On November 10, thirteen bomb raids on Christian homes in Baghdad killed six. On November 16, gunmen burst into a Christian home in northern Iraq and murdered two men in their living room. On November 17, a bomb was intentionally wired in a Christian’s vehicle in Mosul, killing a Christian man and his 6-year-old daughter. On November 22, militants shot two Christian brothers dead inside their vehicle workshop in Mosul. That same day, an elderly Christian woman was found strangled in her home. On December 5, gunmen murdered an elderly couple in their Baghdad home during the night. And the list goes on.
As religious divisions in Iraq broaden, and minorities are maneuvered like political pawns, Iraqi Christians face the reality that they have been deserted – left vulnerable and defenseless by those authorized to protect them, and not permitted to raise their voices loud enough to be heard. Since the war’s beginning in 2003, three quarters of Baghdad’s Christians have fled the city. Nearly half of all Iraq’s Christians have left the country completely, resulting in the largest exodus of Christians in modern times. Without security or employment, most have no desire to return.
Their stories:
Jowaneh Benjamin, an Assyrian Christian from Baghdad, lost nearly everything in the Iraq war. Driving home from work one evening, Jowaneh’s daughters Ebtisam and Enas were ambushed by Muslim militants. The young women were targeted because they were Christian and worked for a U.S. contractor. One was yanked onto the street and shot eleven times. The other was murdered in the backseat. The grief was unbearable for Jowaneh. “I wish I had died and not my daughters... It should have been me... It should have been me...” Jowaneh’s husband died a few days later from a broken heart over his daughters’ deaths.
http://www.persecution.org/pdf/2011HallofShame.pdf
Lord open our eyes to the truth
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