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WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
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WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
Answer: Many “gurus” predict RV every week based on little more than bad intel. This is frustrating if you actually put stock in what these people say.
At first, we listened to what they all had to say. Soon, it became clear there was a whole lot of BS goin’ on.
Eventually, we settled on getting most of our intel from one person who we’ve found has been extremely consistent, clear, logical, humble and well-connected with contacts close to Iraqi Parliament and the US Embassy in Iraq. That person would be Randy Koonce of Currency Chatter.
Randy’s view is that the rate must allow Iraq to meet their budget. This makes sense to us. In order to meet their budget, their currency rate, based on current oil production and the price the US pays for Iraqi crude oil (around $32/barrel), would need to be a minimum of $3.41. However, the rate could be a little higher with inflation, so maybe $3.50 or so. Thus, this would be our own personal feeling as to where we expect it to come out -- $3.41 to $3.50. And, while we do not anticipate a lower “sucker” rate, we’re open to the possibility.
As far as timing the RV, Mr. Koonce has said for many months that until the Arbil Agreement is officially implemented, we won’t see the RV. He hasn’t changed his tune one bit, even though so many others have announced, “It’s done! Arbil has been implemented! Ministers announced! RV is here!” when, in fact, it wasn’t.
When we actually do see the announcement of a fully seated GOI (government of Iraq), then Iraq will crack open their budget and we’ll see the RV because the rate is in the budget.
Randy feels this could happen at any time, but as the US has apparently taken the threat of a “no confidence” vote against Maliki off the table with VP Biden’s visit a couple weeks ago, the timeline is not as pressing as it was. All in all, he feels that we could see RV before Thanksgiving.
As Randy would say, “Good question, next question...”
RV Question #2: Should I cash in ALL of my dinars as soon as it RVs or should I hold some back to see if it goes higher?
Answer: While we expect the dinar to increase in value over the next few years after RV -- possibly doubling or even tripling from it’s immediate post-RV value, we’ll likely be cashing everything in immediately. That is, providing we don’t feel it’s a “sucker” rate meant to get people to cash in for pennies on the dinar, just days or a few weeks before the rate goes much higher. We doubt this will happen, though.
Personally, if it comes in under .75, we may hold off on cashing in everything, depending on what we hear from sources close to the CBI and Parliament. If it comes out at .75 or higher, we’ll likely cash all our dinars in, even if it might double or triple over the next 2-3 years.
Why would we do this? Two reasons: 1) We don’t trust the stability of Iraq. 2) We don’t trust the stability of world markets. We’d much rather be in control of the value of our money by converting our post-RV dinars into dollars, paying our taxes, and then reinvesting where we feel more comfortable.
One of the post-RV investments we’ve selected for our own portfolio is expected to produce gains of 27% per year. When compounded, it will only take three years for us to more than double our investment, which should equal what we’d expect to see if we left it in dinars.
The major advantage of putting our post-RV dollars into something else is that our money would be invested into something that we feel much safer with, and yet has a high rate of return. Also, beyond the initial three years, our investment would continue to compound.
In six years, our initial investment will have increased FIVE times… and we don’t have to worry about Iraqi politics. In just nine years our investment would be worth over 11 times what we invested. And finally, if we wait another nine years (18 total), we’re looking at multiplying our initial investment over 122 times. So, we really see no reason to risk leaving our money in dinars.
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
Just da Truth, yep, that is exactly what we have to watch for, in the grand scheme of things for Iraq they are now moving at quite a pace. It looks like the HCL which was submitted in 2007 is very close, if not done, along with Ebril, which goes hand in hand.
And I will not be hanging about for higher rates, never been greedy, and have quite enough even at a low rate, but will not dismiss Iraq for further investments, there is far more to them than the oil.
I always follow the money, it makes a bad Master but a very good servant.
And I will not be hanging about for higher rates, never been greedy, and have quite enough even at a low rate, but will not dismiss Iraq for further investments, there is far more to them than the oil.
I always follow the money, it makes a bad Master but a very good servant.

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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
justdatruth...I've long felt Randy is one of , if not the most level-headed people who comment on this investment. I say you're right on...good post!
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
DITTO....I'm a Randy Man...Randy says "by Thanksgiving" !!!!
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
Well, nice to know ya'll have found your niche w/Randy K. We're all on the same team. Have a wonderful day and God bless
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Please PM
Please PM me re: your post RV Investment that yields 27%.
Thanks,
Thanks,
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
The RV will happen when we dont think it will. I also believe that it may not happen the way we think it will.
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
Just Da Truth wrote:RV Question #1: When will the Iraqi dinar revalue and what will be the rate?Answer: Many “gurus” predict RV every week based on little more than bad intel. This is frustrating if you actually put stock in what these people say.At first, we listened to what they all had to say. Soon, it became clear there was a whole lot of BS goin’ on.Eventually, we settled on getting most of our intel from one person who we’ve found has been extremely consistent, clear, logical, humble and well-connected with contacts close to Iraqi Parliament and the US Embassy in Iraq. That person would be Randy Koonce of Currency Chatter.Randy’s view is that the rate must allow Iraq to meet their budget. This makes sense to us. In order to meet their budget, their currency rate, based on current oil production and the price the US pays for Iraqi crude oil (around $32/barrel), would need to be a minimum of $3.41. However, the rate could be a little higher with inflation, so maybe $3.50 or so. Thus, this would be our own personal feeling as to where we expect it to come out -- $3.41 to $3.50. And, while we do not anticipate a lower “sucker” rate, we’re open to the possibility.As far as timing the RV, Mr. Koonce has said for many months that until the Arbil Agreement is officially implemented, we won’t see the RV. He hasn’t changed his tune one bit, even though so many others have announced, “It’s done! Arbil has been implemented! Ministers announced! RV is here!” when, in fact, it wasn’t.When we actually do see the announcement of a fully seated GOI (government of Iraq), then Iraq will crack open their budget and we’ll see the RV because the rate is in the budget.Randy feels this could happen at any time, but as the US has apparently taken the threat of a “no confidence” vote against Maliki off the table with VP Biden’s visit a couple weeks ago, the timeline is not as pressing as it was. All in all, he feels that we could see RV before Thanksgiving.As Randy would say, “Good question, next question...”RV Question #2: Should I cash in ALL of my dinars as soon as it RVs or should I hold some back to see if it goes higher?Answer: While we expect the dinar to increase in value over the next few years after RV -- possibly doubling or even tripling from it’s immediate post-RV value, we’ll likely be cashing everything in immediately. That is, providing we don’t feel it’s a “sucker” rate meant to get people to cash in for pennies on the dinar, just days or a few weeks before the rate goes much higher. We doubt this will happen, though.Personally, if it comes in under .75, we may hold off on cashing in everything, depending on what we hear from sources close to the CBI and Parliament. If it comes out at .75 or higher, we’ll likely cash all our dinars in, even if it might double or triple over the next 2-3 years.Why would we do this? Two reasons: 1) We don’t trust the stability of Iraq. 2) We don’t trust the stability of world markets. We’d much rather be in control of the value of our money by converting our post-RV dinars into dollars, paying our taxes, and then reinvesting where we feel more comfortable.One of the post-RV investments we’ve selected for our own portfolio is expected to produce gains of 27% per year. When compounded, it will only take three years for us to more than double our investment, which should equal what we’d expect to see if we left it in dinars.The major advantage of putting our post-RV dollars into something else is that our money would be invested into something that we feel much safer with, and yet has a high rate of return. Also, beyond the initial three years, our investment would continue to compound.In six years, our initial investment will have increased FIVE times… and we don’t have to worry about Iraqi politics. In just nine years our investment would be worth over 11 times what we invested. And finally, if we wait another nine years (18 total), we’re looking at multiplying our initial investment over 122 times. So, we really see no reason to risk leaving our money in dinars.
Thanks for that spelled out version of intel. If we had it like this all the time some folks wouldn't get angry and start bashing others. KUDOS to you
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
Just Da Truth, wish I had your knowledge on what to do with the money, but I really don't have a clue. I spoke with a private banker and he said he will set me up with investment management team, so am hoping for a lot of good help with this from them.
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
While I understand that Randy may not be a licenced Advisor, it would be interesting to know what investment he will be investing in at 27% ROI.
If Randy or Just Da Truth could share that information it would be very much appreciated (With The Usual Disclaimer of Course)
Many Thanks
[quote="Just Da Truth"]
If Randy or Just Da Truth could share that information it would be very much appreciated (With The Usual Disclaimer of Course)
Many Thanks

[quote="Just Da Truth"]
RV Question #1: When will the Iraqi dinar revalue and what will be the rate?
Answer: Many “gurus” predict RV every week based on little more than bad intel. This is frustrating if you actually put stock in what these people say.
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
All sounds reasonable,
It seems the Snail of Iraq has turned into the Rabbit of Iraq, Get-r-done
It seems the Snail of Iraq has turned into the Rabbit of Iraq, Get-r-done
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
This will not RV until 5-7 years from now. This is from a true reliable Intel source. This will not RV this year trust me. I know its frustrating to wait but it will happen but not as soon as these guru websites claim it will. Go RV!!!!! Now everyone get back to your regular daily lives and re-check this in 5-7 years. God Bless you all and goodnight.
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
awd13151 wrote:This will not RV until 5-7 years from now. This is from a true reliable Intel source. This will not RV this year trust me. I know its frustrating to wait but it will happen but not as soon as these guru websites claim it will. Go RV!!!!! Now everyone get back to your regular daily lives and re-check this in 5-7 years. God Bless you all and goodnight.
Thanks for the laugh... I love your sense of humor!!
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
awd13151 wrote:This will not RV until 5-7 years from now. This is from a true reliable Intel source. This will not RV this year trust me. I know its frustrating to wait but it will happen but not as soon as these guru websites claim it will. Go RV!!!!! Now everyone get back to your regular daily lives and re-check this in 5-7 years. God Bless you all and goodnight.
Ok, I'll bite, who or is it whom is this "true reliable Intel source"??
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Re: WHEN WILL IT R.V. ??? A NO BLA BLA POST !!!!!
awd13151 wrote:This will not RV until 5-7 years from now. This is from a true reliable Intel source. This will not RV this year trust me. I know its frustrating to wait but it will happen but not as soon as these guru websites claim it will. Go RV!!!!! Now everyone get back to your regular daily lives and re-check this in 5-7 years. God Bless you all and goodnight.
Seems like we should have listened to AWD13151 ! He wrote this in 2011. If he is correct, there are still several years of waiting
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Randy is great! Not a BS kind of guy!

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