Long-time witness to 10+ years of family being scammed

by goesby Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:03 pm

Hey all, I've lurked here from time to time but finally had to register since I spend so much time fruitlessly researching.

Happy to be here!

Multiple family have been being scammed since like 2010/11, primarily listening to PTR's weekly calls with Dan, Gary, and Abe. I actually don't see any info on "Abe" here - anybody have insight into that character?

by **RamblerNash** Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:09 am

@goesby wrote:Hey all, I've lurked here from time to time but finally had to register since I spend so much time fruitlessly researching.

Happy to be here!

Multiple family have been being scammed since like 2010/11, primarily listening to PTR's weekly calls with Dan, Gary, and Abe. I actually don't see any info on "Abe" here - anybody have insight into that character?

goesby,

Welcome to Dinar Daily!

Is "Abe" new? Or has he been there for awhile?

Research takes a lot of time, and there are a lot of rabbit holes.

In the end you will find that "Abe" is a nobody looking for fame or a way to make money off this "Dinar Scam".

Here's a couple of items on PTR, but no mention of "Abe".

Do you know if their "Fee" is still $15 a month?

https://www.dinardaily.net/t49960-proof-that-dan-tony-from-ptr-was-paid-by-sterling

http://dinardouchebags.blogspot.com/2014/02/kicked-off-ptr.html

by **Purpleskyz** Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:57 pm

Welcome goesby.
I don't recall an Abe either and been around here since 2011. Maybe Sam might remember?

by goesby Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:47 am

@RamblerNash wrote:
Is "Abe" new? Or has he been there for awhile?

Research takes a lot of time, and there are a lot of rabbit holes.

In the end you will find that "Abe" is a nobody looking for fame or a way to make money off this "Dinar Scam".

Do you know if their "Fee" is still $15 a month?

https://www.dinardaily.net/t49960-proof-that-dan-tony-from-ptr-was-paid-by-sterling

http://dinardouchebags.blogspot.com/2014/02/kicked-off-ptr.html

I'm pretty sure Abe's been there since at least 2013, but he's brought on as one of those "government insiders" every other call. He's a guru in his own right. A poll on the PTR forums shows that at least 600 people are paying monthly fees and participate in the forum. and people almost revere him:

Long-time witness to 10+ years of family being scammed 2021-010

Yep, PTR is still $53 for a quarter-year = $17/month. I paid it for a few months, and I know at least 2 people that have been paying for years to be lied to. PTR forums are, of course, an echo chamber of self-congratulatory delusion.

Thanks for the links! They look familiar but I need to read them closer.

by **RamblerNash** Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:43 am

@goesby wrote:
I'm pretty sure Abe's been there since at least 2013, but he's brought on as one of those "government insiders" every other call. He's a guru in his own right. A poll on the PTR forums shows that at least 600 people are paying monthly fees and participate in the forum. and people almost revere him:

Like DV, KTFA, and many others, around $15 per month is the fee for that "Special Intel".

At $53 per quarter, that's $212 a year, and with 600 members that's $127,200 from just memberships. Most also have ad revenue and get commission from the products they sell.

@goesby wrote:
Thanks for the links! They look familiar but I need to read them closer.

Sam I Am has quite an extensive archive on most of the "old" gurus. He copied them over from his older site to here: https://iraqcurrencywatch.com/sam-i-am-archives/ . They are also posted here at DD, along with many others: https://www.dinardaily.net/f15-many-many-years-ago-in-dinar-land

by **Mission1st** Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:46 am

“There's a sucker born every minute.”
― P.T. Barnum

Long-time witness to 10+ years of family being scammed

Long-time witness to 10+ years of family being scammed

Re: Long-time witness to 10+ years of family being scammed

Re: Long-time witness to 10+ years of family being scammed

Re: Long-time witness to 10+ years of family being scammed

Re: Long-time witness to 10+ years of family being scammed

Re: Long-time witness to 10+ years of family being scammed