Religous Tolerance

If we consider the earth, terra firma, the line most obvious for its meaning is the horizon. Wind, bird, sky, spirit, the above. When we think of this, it is the above coming down unto us. This makes most sense as a verticle line.

I realize, some don't don't get my sayings. This thread is about tolerance. This comes from understanding. Many things are related. Many things we think belong just to us for symbols are really much much older. Please don't be cross with me.

So, if the union of the material and spiritual worlds were to be drawn as a two dimensional pictograph, it would be two intersecting lines at right angles to each other. This also creates a point at the intersection which is the monad or ⊙. From it, the four elements of creation. I wonder if the number of the cross would be 42? (referencing another thread) †.......†.......†

I will post something, different than what will likely be found from a general search engine query. In brief, I can sum his peotry thus:

Therapy for the bicameral mind;
Massage for the Soul.

H2OMAN wrote:Carl Jung's THE RED BOOK....Thanks Alchemist..I'll read it. MAN and HIS SYMBOLS was my first intro to Jung.. Who is this RUMI I've seen you quote?

Rumi teaches that the feelings we have are not us, we are the container that they happen through, but they are not us. He teaches that we should honor each one as a guest, for each is a messenger from beyond. Each has something to teach us. Now, I could post a link, but I'm not going to. If you are feeling down, afraid or just feeling what ever it is that you feel, I would suggest, "The Guest House" by Rumi. The poetry is traditionally accompanied by music and can be found on Youtube.

The Golden Path
Take my hand this way we'll go, Said the man above, I'll take you to a place of joy, Where you will find true love, If you let go, go on your own, But mistakes you will make, For many other ways there are, Which you are sure to take, When you feel that you are lost, All you have to do is pray, And I'll be there once again, To help you on your way, I did pray and just as said, He shined his light from above, That showed me the way down the golden path, That led me to your love.
- Sonya Turnbow

yoursoulknows wrote:

"If one is worthy to drink from the ocean of life,
Surely they are worthy to fill their cup at my little stream"
~ Khalil Gibran ~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwb1nDbJb4M

Romans 8:26 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express

www.huffingtonpost.com/blackberry/p.html?id=777382

They are
doing a form of prayer that acknowledges unity,
not political or religious solidarity with each
other, but in praise of the mystery of oneness
within all living beings, all things, all molecules
even. That is the essence of Islam that I meet in
Sufis today, that I saw in Bawa's eyes. There is a
sweetness and a coolness, a profound courtesy,
and a peace in Islam that we are mostly blind to
in the West, and in the media particularly. The
Islam that Rumi speaks from within is not one
that separates us into different religions.
Amazingly, it is one that celebrates how we can
meet in Friendship and sing One Song. Here is
one of his most famous poems.


One Song
Every war and every conflict between human
beings
has happened because of some disagreement
about names.
It is such an unnecessary foolishness,
because just beyond the arguing
there is a long table of companionship
set and waiting for us to sit down.
What is praised is one, so the praise is one too,
many jugs being poured into a huge basin.
All religions, all this singing, one song.
The differences are just illusion and vanity.
Sunlight looks a little different on this wall
than it does on that wall
and a lot different on this other one,
but it is still one light.
We have borrowed these clothes,
these time-and-space personalities,
from a light, and when we praise,
we are pouring them back in.


He said that in the 13th Century. Rumi very
consciously made himself and his poetry a
bridge between cultures and between religions.
There is nothing exclusivist about him. He
includes everyone in his embrace. He was, and
is, a healer of whatever might separate us.
Shams Tabriz adds another, more incandescent,
element to his gift. Pure freedom, pure internal
wildness, beyond any category we know. The
West has no one comparable. Thoreau to the
100th power. Dostoyevsky to the 10th.
Cervantes times 40. Mark Twain spun into seven
new dimensions. It is the whirlwind of his
presence that we feel as the power within
Rumi's poetry. Shams is what draws us.

Zen Story 3 The Trickster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl75-X4Afig

Rumi -If you can't go to sleep -YouTube

"What do think will happen?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIVfcOeIJyQ

The Birth of Monotheism: Great Hymn to the
Aten - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23W1Qa1YimY

Psalm 104
1Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God,
thou art very great; thou art clothed with
honour and majesty.
2Who coverest thyself with light as with a
garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a
curtain:
3Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the
waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who
walketh upon the wings of the wind:
4Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a
flaming fire:
5Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it
should not be removed for ever.
6Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a
garment: the waters stood above the
mountains.
7At thy rebuke they fled; at the voice of thy
thunder they hasted away.
8They go up by the mountains; they go down
by the valleys unto the place which thou hast
founded for them.
9Thou hast set a bound that they may not pass
over; that they turn not again to cover the
earth.
10He sendeth the springs into the valleys,
which run among the hills.
11They give drink to every beast of the field:
the wild asses quench their thirst.
12By them shall the fowls of the heaven have
their habitation, which sing among the
branches.
13He watereth the hills from his chambers: the
earth is satisfied with the fruit of thy works.
14He causeth the grass to grow for the cattle,
and herb for the service of man: that he may
bring forth food out of the earth;
15And wine that maketh glad the heart of man,
and oil to make his face to shine, and bread
which strengtheneth man's heart.
16The trees of the LORD are full of sap; the
cedars of Lebanon, which he hath planted;
17Where the birds make their nests: as for the
stork, the fir trees are her house.
18The high hills are a refuge for the wild goats;
and the rocks for the conies.
19He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun
knoweth his going down.
20Thou makest darkness, and it is night:
wherein all the beasts of the forest do creep
forth.
21The young lions roar after their prey, and
seek their meat from God.
22The sun ariseth, they gather themselves
together, and lay them down in their dens.
23Man goeth forth unto his work and to his
labour until the evening.
24O LORD, how manifold are thy works! in
wisdom hast thou made them all: the earth is
full of thy riches.
25So is this great and wide sea, wherein are
things creeping innumerable, both small and
great beasts.
26There go the ships: there is that leviathan,
whom thou hast made to play therein.
27These wait all upon thee; that thou mayest
give them their meat in due season.
28That thou givest them they gather: thou
openest thine hand, they are filled with good.
29Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou
takest away their breath, they die, and return to
their dust.
30Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are
created: and thou renewest the face of the
earth.
31The glory of the LORD shall endure for ever:
the LORD shall rejoice in his works.
32He looketh on the earth, and it trembleth: he
toucheth the hills, and they smoke.
33I will sing unto the LORD as long as I live: I
will sing praise to my God while I have my
being.
34My meditation of him shall be sweet: I will
be glad in the LORD.
35Let the sinners be consumed out of the
earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou
the LORD, O my soul. Praise ye the LORD.

The next two videos are Odina singing Rumi poetry. Very beautiful! It might be a great break from the stresses of the day. Each is 30 - 45 minutes long, so you can sit back and relax...

Odina sings Rumi 2