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PostSubject: Exposing Breitling    Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:43 pm

Another so called expert / Guru I also have serious disdain for is this Breitling character. I have worked in the currency world for over 20 years. Specialising in currency having headed the currency desks for a number of leading banks. I'm semi retired now but you don't have to be a currency expert to completely pull apart some of claims this charlatan Tony Breitling spreads. Despite claiming to be a "currency expert " his knowledge is at best rudementory ! For example his claims on the Turkish Lira LOP in 2004 / 2005 are an outright fabrication. And his take on the affects an RV would have on the average Iraqi citizen are seriously flawed. If your average Iraqi citizen woke up one day to realise that his purchasing power of his savings had magically increased by even 1000 % let alone 10,000 % as some of these clowns claim there would be absolute mayhem. A run on the CBI dollar reserves would be an understatement! That is why it is MATHEMATICALLY and ECONOMICALLY impossible to RV the Dinar to anywhere near to par status with the USD. On the other hand there are currently a number of institutions actively pursuing a speculative strategy involving the Dinar but as I touched on in a previous post it has NOTHING TO DO with a GCR and / or forced overnight RV it has everything to do with the "Belt Road Initiative" and even if successfull is unlikely to benefit the average holder of currencies. It's a speculative punt that requires holding billions of dinar and having the right mechanisms such as agreements with certain other stake holders. And before some dillusional idiot claims I'm referring to Chinese Elders , Dragon families and all this other rubbish the answer is no ! And my understanding of this thing has no relationship with the other currencies such as the ZIM that don't event warrant a comment. Other than to say the very best case ZIM holders can remotely look forward to is being able to exchange for a reguvenated ZIM dollar and although that scenario is unlikely the one thing I can GUARANTEE you is that the rate of exchange will be less than the premium currently being paid for ZIMS on the likes of eBay etc.... I'm happy to break down my synopsis with anyone who would like to dispute my claims especially this Breitling charlatan. It's not arrogance to say my pedigree when it comes to currencies would out strip his baseless comments in a heart beat and is simply derived from the fact I have worked successfully in this space for over 20 years and have even advised the CBI on monetary issues. I sent Breitling an email outlining my credentials and even offered to send him verifiable documentation backing up these unique credentials.... No surprise that he didn't bother to respond. His silence pretty much sums up his authority when it comes to the Dinar. Ask yourself if you were genuinely bullish on the Dinar as he claims and you actually had someone contact you who has had several dealings with the CBI on no less a thing than monetary policy would you not follow up with them to discuss things with that person ? Enough said.
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PostSubject: Re: Exposing Breitling    Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:57 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Exposing Breitling    Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:21 pm

Flazen, I don't know you but I like you already.  Here's what I wrote about Breitling in 2011 and 2012 
https://iraqcurrencywatch.com/breitling-busted101511/
https://iraqcurrencywatch.com/the-breitling-catalog-22312/

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PostSubject: Re: Exposing Breitling    Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:33 pm

Fascinating stuff ..... I wasn't aware of the majority of the claims he has made. I only started listening to him fairly recently after I became aware of a move by some institutions on the Dinar. I suspect this is the basis for alot of these gurus claims but instead of having any real INTEL as they call it they dress it up with what can only be described as BS. Please don't interpret my comments as me claiming I have INTEL as I have already stated previously my understanding is that this play by the institutions is unlikely to reflect in the price of the Dinar in the short or medium term.My sources which are all current and former bankers who I know personally.have been adminent that this has nothing to do with an RV etc Needless to say it sparked my interest in this whole Dinar community phenomenon but I quickly became upset when I realised that what can only be described as a myth is being propogated by fraudsters and in some cases truly disturbed individuals. What sickens me is that they are praying on the most vulnerable people. Tell me what is your interest in this ? In that what is your theory on the Dinar??


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PostSubject: Re: Exposing Breitling    Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:54 pm

For reference purposes, we have a fairly concise record of guru lies from 2011/2012 in this section:  http://www.dinardaily.net/f15-5-years-ago-in-dinar-land
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PostSubject: Re: Exposing Breitling    Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:17 pm

Thanks for the link ... You only need to listen or read a few of their comments to realise that they are nothing more than charlatans pertaining to be knowledgeable persons. I'm being polite ..... The issue I have is that under all this rubsish lies a genuine albeit convert play on the Dinar that has been in place for over a year. So one can only come to the immediate conclusion that any and all speculation prior to 2017 has been based on complete falsehoods by these so called gurus. What I was hoping to derive from my limited research was a reason for the gradual covert accumulation of large amounts of dinar by these institutions. The only assurances I have managed to get is that it has nothing to do with an RV. But despite 20 years plus experience in the currency space I am still at pains to understand why the accumulation of a specific denomination of the Iraqi Dinar..... Where is the play ? The only thing I have managed to find out is it may be linked to the belt road initiative but technically speaking Iraq will not be a country that falls under the initiatives umbrella so once again I'm left scratching my head to why would they be accumalating ? The people who have been appointed to source the currency are also in the dark but I can assure you that they continue to accumulate the currency in increasingly large amounts. I suspect this to all come out in the wash within a few months from now as things always do and it will be fascinating to see how and why the whole thing was structured like it was.....
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PostSubject: Re: Exposing Breitling    Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:39 pm

What "institutions" are you referring to?
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PostSubject: Re: Exposing Breitling    Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:01 am

@Flazen wrote:
Tell me what is your interest in this ? In that what is your theory on the Dinar??

My theory is that Iraq never had any intention of raising the value any more than was absolutely necessary in order to get inflation under control, but the dinar dealers and gurus drove the speculation through the roof until some of us figured out about 7 years ago that this was in fact a scam.  I owned over 8 million dinar at one point but due to constant guru fails I decided that I'd better research this for myself because the gurus were always wrong.  That's when I discovered the truth and began blogging against the guru BS.  Eventually my friends here at Dinar Daily joined in the fun hunting gurus and exposing their lies.  Welcome to the club.

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PostSubject: Re: Exposing Breitling    Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:47 am

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What "institutions" are you referring to?


It's Chinese money behind the accumalation. As I type this I can imagine your eyes rolling but as I have previously said they have already stated it has nothing to do with the mythical RV but they are paying a significant premium for the currency as long as it meets certain criteria. No surprise that none of the so called gurus have got wind of it. Make of that as you will.

By the way Sam I am , I concur with your theory whole heartedly so that is why I'm bemused by these fairly recent developments .....I obviously know a little more than I'm letting on but don't want to be misinterpreted as a Intel provider and all that BS. But I suppose it would be a form of sweet justice to find out that some institutions did make a significant play and subsequent profit on the dinar but for whatever reason that didn't reflect in the exchange rate. I suppose it would be the final nail in the coffin for these so called gurus especially if it became common knowledge and verifiable at that. Which I have been told will be the case later this year or early next... Once they have finished with the transactions. So either it's related to the belt road initiative or to the Chinese wanting to unseat the dollar as the world's reserve currency which in my view is not a theory but a genuine strategic necessity for China and others such as Russia. So what role would the Dinar play in that ? There's an angle ...


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PostSubject: Re: Exposing Breitling    Thu Sep 13, 2018 4:57 am

And I do realise that my statements are all the more confusing and most probably frustrating, as why would interests be accumalating dinar if there wasn't a strategy to make money from a RV even a long-term gradual RV at a minimum ? They are also paying a significant premium for currency with specific prerequisites which adds to the confusion. But rather than come across as a dillusional speculator or even worst an "INTEL" provider it's probably best to leave it at that. I just thought it would be interesting to theorize with sane and reality based persons such as yourselves on what the angle could be ....
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PostSubject: Re: Exposing Breitling    Thu Sep 13, 2018 5:19 am

Sam I am ,
I open to having an off the record discussion with you. To drill down on this if you are. Do you have an email address I can forward my Skype address to or Whatsapp?
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PostSubject: Re: Exposing Breitling    Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:09 am


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