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Post by bensmom2011 Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:32 pm

This is my opinion, to sum it up: "If Iraq RVs too low, the big investors will come in strong and make all the profit." This is an understandable assumption, but it is WRONG. yes, the big investors will come in and buy it up if they feel it is going to continue to rise and if the rate SHOULD be $1, but it comes out at .10 then of COURSE they will come in and buy it up! but at that point, no more large denoms will be being printed. the CBI has already accounted for the currency in circulation at that point. follow closely here, I know many people want to hear it will RV to $3 or $4. I think it will come out much lower, then climb up to that range because if they come out high, then they have an IMMEDIATE LIABILITY - a LOT of money owed to cash in the dinar currently in circulation but if they come out low, like at .10 - then they can grab up a bunch of the quick sellers, and resell at a higher rate, remember, the CBI makes money on every transaction, so the more times they can get people to buy and cash in, the more money they make. if they come out at .10, then raise to .15, then raise to .20. all the way to $3.00... they make MUCH more than if they do a straight RV to $3. HOPEFULLY we will be able to hold our currency and...just wait until it hits $3 to sell. if they place a limit on time to cash in the big notes, then we just take our profit and be happy. I hope I'm wrong!

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Post by me2 Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:46 pm


All well and good as long as Iraq actually does RV, which none of us really knows whether it will happen and trust me, I want it to happen. Let's not bother about rates. It will be what it will be or...not. I must also admit I was disappointed to see ANOTHER dinar dealer popping up on this site.

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Post by Jewelz Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:53 pm

It appears to be the same naive intellectual individual with a big ego about the ways of the world who apparently wrote a book years ago he wants you to read that someone keeps posting his material on DinarReCaps confusing people - here is a snip to verify

Adam Montana Wedn. Morning Chat DinarVets 09/21/2011

[kcw] edbeach- My question is you had indicated RV your opinion was between $.10- $.30 (cents ) Should this RV come in this low first would not the big boys on Wall Street start investing Millions heavily on the dinar and flood the market which in turn should cause the dinar be worthless again causing the inflation to rise more because of this. Whereby if at least come in $1.00 would be equal 1:1 being more easily to grow from this point where they want to be equal with Kuwaite.
[Adam Montana] there we go! The rate question!!!
[Adam Montana] disclaimer: This is my opinion, and I could be completely wrong
[Adam Montana] edbeach that is a GREAT question
[Adam Montana] it's actually where most people get confused, sidetracked, and lose sight of the big picture
[Adam Montana] to sum it up:
[Adam Montana] "If Iraq RVs too low, the big investors will come in strong and make all the profit."
[Adam Montana] This is an understandable assumption, but it is WRONG
[Adam Montana] yes, the big investors will come in and buy it up if they feel it is going to continue to rise
[Adam Montana] and if the rate SHOULD be $1, but it comes out at .10
[Adam Montana] then of COURSE they will come in and buy it up!
[Adam Montana] but at that point, no more large denoms will be being printed
[Adam Montana] the CBI has already accounted for the currency in circulation at that point
[Adam Montana] follow closely here
[Adam Montana] I know many people want to hear it will RV to $3 or $4
[Adam Montana] I think it will come out much lower, then climb up to that range
[Adam Montana] because if they come out high, then they have an IMMEDIATE LIABILITY - a LOT of money owed to cash in the dinar currently in circulation
[Adam Montana] but if they come out low, like at .10 - then they can grab up a bunch of the quick sellers, and resell at a higher rate
[Adam Montana] remember, the CBI makes money on every transaction
[Adam Montana] so the more times they can get people to buy and cash in, the more money they make
[Adam Montana] if they come out at .10, then raise to .15, then raise to .20. all the way to $3.00... they make MUCH more than if they do a straight RV to $3
[Adam Montana] I hope that makes sensde
[Adam Montana] HOPEFULLY we will be able to hold our currency, watch all the crazies cashing in, buying, selling, etc... and just like a great stock, just wait until it hits $3 to sell
[Adam Montana] if they place a limit on time to cash in the big notes, then we just take our profit and be happy
[Adam Montana] That was a GREAT question though, and like I said - I hope I'm wrong!
[Adam Montana] I'd much rather take a huge gain immediately
[Adam Montana] but I am prepared to invest wisely and ride this bull any way it needs to be riden
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Post by dinarling77 Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:15 pm

makes sense to me! of course it's not 4.41 GBP like everyone wants to hear!

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Post by FREEWAY BILL Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:31 pm

This has got to be the most ridiculous, absurd, uninformed post I have ever seen during this entire time of dealing with the Iraqi Dinar!

I don't even know why Adam Montana's thoughts are allowed to be posted outside of Dinar Vets, a site that is full of naysayers and pessimistic dinar holders.

I would like to know where he gets his intel ...... from some $5 psychic?

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Post by Preacher 28 Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:46 pm

I have been invested in dinar for over a year and have heard all the gurus
including okie give rates between $3 - $8 BUT NEVER THIS .10 - .30 !!!!
Give Me A BREAK!! I don't think anyone will really know until it RV!!!
Although Tony Breitling who I feel has always been conservative and had most confidence what he said. HE HAS ALWAYS STATED HE FELT IT WOULD RV AT 1 to 1 = $1 BUT I WILL WAIT TIL IT RV AND SEE WHAT
THE PRICE IS BEFORE I GET ALL SHOOK UP OVER Someone saying .10 !!
EVERYONE HAS THEIR INTEL AND SO FAR - NO ONE HAS BEEN RIGHT!!


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Post by ROJO$ Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:20 am

BROTHERS & SISTERS

OK, SO I DIDN'T INVEST IN THE IRAQI DINAR 8 YEARS AGO, AND I DIDN'T OPEN UP A WEB SITE AND READ PEOPLE OLD NEWSPAPER ARTICLES, HECK, I DIDN'T REALIZE ILLITERACY WAS SO RAMPANT.....BUT WHAT A GREAT IDEA, I THINK TOMORROW I WILL START A WEB SITE AND CALL IT OBSCURE AND OUTDATED NEWS FROM A NEGATIVE IDIOT'S PERSPECTIVE.

YOU KNOW, I MAY NOT BE A GURU, BUT WHEN I SHARE THINGS WITH PEOPLE, NORMALLY I FEEL IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHICH I SHARE IS UPLIFTING AND POINTS TO POSSIBILITIES AND POTENTIAL, OR WILL AT A MINIMUM, OFFER SOME MEASURE OF HOPE TRYING ALWAYS TO BUILD UP THE INTENDED RECIPIENT'S FAITH IN GOD AND THE POTENTIAL OF POSSIBILITIES.

DON'T YOU ALL REMEMBER GROWING UP, WHEN MOM OR DAD USED TO SAY, IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE, ........ DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL........

HEY ADAM, WHY DON'T YOU LOOK INTO A FEW BITS OF NEWS THAT MIGHT HELP FOLKS TO BELIEVE THAT GOD IS IN CHARGE AND THAT ONLY GOD IS IN CHARGE? IN FACT, HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO LOOK FOR THE SILVER LINING ADAM, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHEN YOU SHARE A STORY THAT WILL LIFT SOMEONE'S SPIRITS, OR PICK STORY'S THAT POINT TO POSSIBILITIES, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THE INFORMATION YOU SHARE CAN BE SOMEWHAT UPLIFTING AND LIGHTEN PEOPLE'S LOADS A BIT. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN ADAM OR ARE YOU SO FAR GONE DOWN THAT NEGATIVE HIGHWAY, THAT DOOM AND GLOOM AND THE UGLY, NEGATIVE AND HOPELESS SIDE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY IS ALL YOU CAN FOCUS ON?

LOOK, I AM NOT TRYING TO BE A CHEERLEADER HERE AND GOD KNOWS I FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY EVERYDAY, BUT THIS THING REALLY DOES PRESENT OPPORTUNITIES, HUGE OPPORTUNITIES, KIND OF LIKE NEVER BEFORE AND MAYBE NEVER AGAIN KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES. BUT THE REAL STORY ISN'T EVEN STARTED WITH THOSE OF US IN THIS DEAL, IT WILL BEGIN WHEN GOD SHOWS EACH OF US THE POTENTIAL FOR CHANGING OTHER'S LIVES JUST AS OUR LIVES HAVE BEEN CHANGED BY GOD. DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?????

I MEAN IT, HAVE ANY OF US REALLY CONSIDERED THE POSSIBILITIES HERE, OR HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER EVEN TRIED TO THINK ABOUT THE REAL UPSIDE OF THIS DEAL? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, NOT JUST FOR THOSE WHO THREW IN A FEW BUCKS, BUT LITERALLY FOR THE POTENTIAL HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OR MILLIONS OF OTHERS WHO WILL HAVE THEIR LIVES ABSOLUTELY AMAZINGLY ALTERED WHEN GOD DELIVERS THIS HUGE BLESSING?

WELL, IF YOU HAVEN'T CONSIDERED IT, YOU SHOULD, BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE GOD DIRECTLY INVITED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS DEAL, WE ONLY REPRESENT JUST A SMALL PORTION OF THE LIVES GOD HAS ALREADY PREDESTINED TO HAVE THEIR LIVES CHANGED AND BLESSED IN THE DAYS AND MONTHS TO COME. YOU SEE, THAT'S HOW THIS WORKS, FIRST YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS ALREADY DONE, BELIEVE STEP OUT IN FAITH AND RECEIVE. THEN YOU REALIZE THAT YOUR LIFE HAS ALREADY BEEN CHANGED AND BLESSED AND THEN YOU SEE THE MATERIAL WORLD CATCH UP TO WHAT GOD HAS ALREADY DONE AND YOU ALREADY REALIZED.....!.....

I HAVE TO TELL YOU ALL, I SEE THE REAL POTENTIAL HERE, I MEAN HASN'T ANYONE BEEN READING THE SAME POSTS I HAVE BEEN READING? BECAUSE I HEAR HOPEFUL, LOVING, GOD RESPECTING, CHRIST LOVING CHRISTIAN PEOPLE OUT THERE, WHO HAVE ALL HAD THEIR LIVES ALTERED BY THIS THING ALREADY, AND FURTHERMORE, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT GOD WILL USE MANY OF US TO CARRY ON AS WE ARE BLESSED TO BLESS OTHERS.

PEOPLE,.......WE ARE LIVING IN VERY TRYING TIMES, TIMES THAT I TRULY BELIEVE WERE SPOKEN OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO THROUGH PROPHECY! IN FACT, SPECIFICALLY GUYS, I THINK MOST OF YOU REALIZE THAT THESE ARE THE DAYS THAT CHRIST HIMSELF SPOKE OF WHEN HE REFERRED TO THE LAST GENERATION BEFORE HIS GLORIOUS RETURN, AFTER ISRAEL WAS ESTABLISHED AS A NATION AGAIN.......

SO LISTEN YOU ALL, THIS GUY ADAM MONTANA AND ALL THE OTHER NAYSAYERS AND UNHAPPY, DISBELIEVING, FLAT OUT MISERABLE PESSAMISTS OUT THERE IN DINARLAND NEED TO BE TURNED OFF AND SHUNED, BECAUSE, BELIEVING IS A VERB AND WHO KNOWS WHAT GOD IS GOING TO DO HERE, MAYBE ITS NOT $1-1 DINAR, WHO KNOWS THAT IT COULDN'T BE $21. TO 1 DINAR, AND BY THE WAY, YES I READ THAT DR. SHABIBI IN FACT WAS QUOTED AS SAYING THE DINAR HAD A $21 VALUE, AND HE WASN'T SPEAKING OF A 25,000 DINAR NOTE, HE WAS SPEAKING OF TRUE VALUE AGAINST THE U.S. DOLLAR!!!!!

IF WE CHOOSE TO BELIEVE THAT GOD IS IN CHARGE AND IN FACT, THAT THE BIBLE IS TRUE, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT STATES THAT "IF WE REMAIN FAITHFUL THAT GOD WILL POUR OUT A BLESSING THAT WE COULD NEITHER DREAM OF OR CONCEIVE OURSELVES".......!!! I BELIEVE THAT OUR GOD HAS THAT ABILITY, THE ONLY THING REQUIRED ON OUR PART IS THAT WE BELIEVE AND BELIEVE THAT: 1.) WE ARE HIS CHILDREN AND THE BIBLE IS TRUE. THEN BELIEVE THAT WE ARE THE FATHER'S CHILDREN, IN FACT THE BIBLE DESCRIBES US AS HIS BELOVED CHILDREN AND FELLOW HEIRS TO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN WITH OUR LORD AND BROTHER JESUS CHRIST......!!!! 2.) THEN SECONDLY START ACTING ON THAT BELIEF AND UNDERSTANDING BY PLANNING YOUR NEW LIFE AND GET BUSY DETERMINING WHO, WHAT AND HOW YOU WILL BLESS OTHERS AS YOU HAVE BEEN BLESSED. 3.) THEN UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO TITHING AND MAKE SURE TO GIVE BACK TO GOD, THAT WHICH IS THE FATHER'S. YOU MUST TITHE RIGHT OFF THE TOP, BEFORE YOU PAY THE TAXES OR BUY THAT FIRST TRIPLE SCOOP AT BASKIN-ROBBIN'S 31 FLAVORS!

SO THAT'S THE DEAL GUYS, AND ALL THAT IS REQUIRED OF US SO THAT WE CAN TOO RECEIVE, IS THAT WE BELIEVE..... ON THE OTHER HAND, WE MUST ALSO GUARD OURSELVES FROM THE ANGRY, NEGATIVE, PESSEMISTIC AND SOLD OUT TO DEFEAT STRANGERS ALONG THE ROAD, YOU KNOW THE TYPES, THOSE THAT AIM TO DISAPPOINT AND STEAL YOUR DREAMS AND HOPES AND FAITH.......


IN FACT, HERE'S A THOUGHT, LET'S DO AS FREEWAY BILL SUGGESTS, AND JUST TURN THESE UNHAPPY LOOSERS AND DEFEATED STRANGERS OFF IN OUR LIVES, LETS JUST DISMISS THEM AS THEY CONTINUE TO TRY TO DISMISS OUR DREAMS AND HOPES AND OUR FAITH IN THE FATHER AND THE SON AND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT GOD CAN DO ANYTHING, AND SO CAN WE THROUGH CHRIST WHO STRENGTHENS US.........

IN STEAD THEN OF FOLLOWING THE ADAM MONTANA AND THE DECIETFUL DREAM DESTROYERS, LETS JUST FOCUS ON THE BLESSING AND FOCUS ON GOD'S ABILITY TO MAKE THIS THING BE WHATEVER WE NEED IT TO BE. SO THAT THERE IS MORE THEN ENOUGH FOR ALL OF US BELIEVERS TO BOTH, TAKE CARE OF ALL OF OUR NEEDS AND THEN ENOUGH TO LIVE AND GIVE, LIVE AND GIVE, ENOUGH TO LIVE AND GIVE.

CHRIST SAID, "THE THIEF COMMETH NOT BUT TO KILL, STEAL AND DESTROY, I HAVE COME THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE LIFE AND HAVE IT MORE THEN, MORE THEN, MORE THEN ABUNDANTLY"....... SO THAN, FOCUS ON ABUNDANCE THROUGH AND WITH CHRIST AND OUR LOVING FATHER AND THEN REMEMBER, WHEN YOU TALJK ABOUT THIS TO ANYONE EITHER INVESTED OR NOT, BE CHARITABLE AND BE CARING AND TRY ALWAYS TO BUILD EACH OTHER UP AND TRY EVEN HARDER TO SHARE BOTH THE POSSIBILITIES AND THE POTENTIAL FOR A LIFE FILLED WITH BLESSINGS AND A LIFE THAT IS A BLESSING TO ALL THOSE YOU ENCOUNTER.

REMEMBER THE LIFE CHRIST PROMISED FILLED WITH ABUNDANCE AND JOY AND A LIFE THAT CAN DO EVEN GREATER THINGS THEN HE DID. ALL THAT IS REQUIRED, FAITH AND A LACK OF FEAR.......

TO ACCOMPLISH OUR GOALS THEN,..... TURN AWAY FROMN THOSE WHO WANT TO DESTROY YOUR DREAMS, TURN AWAY FROM THOSE WHO WANT TO DIMINISH OUR DREAMS BY TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF THE DREAM AWAY EACH DAY, FIRST ITS THE RATE, THEN ITS THE DATE, THEN THE RATE, SHRINKING, SHRINKING, SHRINKING, THEN THE DATE GETS MOVED BACK, THEN ITS THE LOP AND THEN........

FORGET IT, GOD ORDAINED THIS, GOD ORDAINED THIS AND THEN HE INVITED US AND THEN HE DELIVERED IT, AND THAT IS ALL WE NEED TO KNOW, IT IS DONE AND IT IS FINISHED AND IT IS DELIVERED AND ALL WE NEED TO DO IS NOW BEGIN TO ACT AS THE BLESSED FAMILY MEMBERS WE ARE IN CHRIST TO GOD'S FAMILY...... FELLOW HIERS WITH CHRIST TO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN AND JOINT PARTICIPANTS IN THIS BLESSING AS GOD LEADS US NOW TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS HUGE OPPORTUNITY.......

REMEMBER TO TITHE AND REMEMBER TO GIVE, UNTIL IT HEALS.....

THEN, EACH DAY, BEGIN YOUR DAY AND FINISH YOUR DAY HANGING OUT WITH OUR BROTHER AND LORD, JESUS CHRIST


FINALLY,......REMEMBER,

1.) WE NEED TO ALWAYS TRY TO LIFT THE PEOPLE UP AROUND US OR THOSE WHO WE TOUCH EACH DAY AND HELP THEM ON THEIR WAY, SHARING INFORMATION THAT WILL BE EMPOWERING AND HELPFUL, SO THAT YOUR LIFE IS A BLESSING TO OTHER'S LIVES. ALL THE WHILE, POINTING OUT THE POTENTIAL OF POSSIBILITIES, RATHER THEN DRAGGING PEOPLE DOWN AND SHARING ABSOLUTE CRAP THAT IS ONLY INTENDED TO DISAPPOINT AND DIMINISH PEOPLE'S HOPES AND DREAMS.

2.) I THINK THE ONLY REASON TO SHARE ON THESE SITES IS SO THAT YOU CAN HELP PEOPLE HANG ON AND FURTHER, FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THAT PERSONS DAY, LIFE AND FAITH.

YOU KNOW, I ACTUALLY THINK GUYS LIKE ADAM GET A KICK OUT OF DRAGGING PEOPLE DOWN AND DIMINISHING THEIR HOPES AND DREAMS AND FAITH. THERE IS ONLY ONE SOURCE FOR THOSE WHO DESTROY DREAMS AND ATTEMPT TO DESTROY PEOPLE'S FAITH, WELL, YOU ALL KNOW THE SOURCE OF HOPELESSNESS AND UNHAPPINESS AND THAT IS THE ADVERSARY..

BY THE WAY, FROM NOW ON WHEN YOU CHECK OUT WHAT HAPPENED TODAY IN DINARLAND, STAY ON THE SITES WHERE OUR BELIEVER FRIENDS ARE POSTING!!!!!!! YOU KNOW, I FOR ONE HAVE BEEN SO BLESSED TO HEAR INFORMATION FROM FREEWAY BILL AND OKIE AND SCOTTY AND GHOST AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF OTHER OF THE INTEL GIVERS AND FRIENDS OF CHRIST I HAVE FOUND IN THESE SIGHTS. IN FACT, THE ONLY REASON I HOP ON THE INTERNET AND CATCH UP QUICKLY, IS BECAUSE THESE GUYS ARE IN FACT SPEAKING WITH BANK PRESIDENTS AND SOURCES CLOSE TO THE FLAME AT CBI OR THE IRAQI PARLIMENT ETC.... I MEAN HOW ELSE COULD WE HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT THE INNER POLITICS AND DEALINGS BETWEEN THE UST, THE BANKS AND ALL THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS THING???? NOT BY SOME IDIOT READING US TO SLEEP OUT OF A NEWSPAPER.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF YOU, BUT I WILL SHARE WITH YOU, THAT NO ONE FROM OUR TREASURY DEPARTMENT, CONGRESS, LET ALONE IRAQ'S PARLIAMENT IS SHARING ANY INFO WITH ME. BUT MORE THEN THAT, I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IT TAKES ABSOLUTELY NO TALENT AT ALL TO READ A BUNCH OF NEWSPAPER ARTICLES OR INTERNET POSTINGS TO COME UP WITH BASELESS AND ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLY NEGATIVE CONCEPT OF WHAT IS TRULY HAPPENING HERE. YOU KNOW, THIS INVESTMENT IS IN GOD'S HANDS AND IT IS GOD'S ABILITY AND WILL TO BLESS ALL OF THE BELIEVERS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY.

THE ONLY THING I'M WAITING FOR NOW IS A MADE UP STORY ABOUT THE DEATH OF SHABIBI OR MALIKI ALONG WITH A PRESS STATEMENT POSTPONING THE RV FOR A COUPLE YEARS, AND THEN I BELIEVE WE WILL KNOW THAT THE RV WILL COME WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS!!!!! I AM ONLY CONJECTURING THAT THIS MIGHT HAPPEN IN RELATION TO THE KUWAITI RV, IN THAT I BELIEVE THAT DR. SHABS HAS ALMOST FOLLOWED KUWAIT'S RV PROCESS TO THE NICKEL THUS FAR.

ONE WAY OR THE OTHER THOUGH, IT IS DONE AND WE ARE BLESSED, SO ENJOY, BE BLESSED AND PRAY TO BE READY, WHEN CHRIST RETURNS... ITS COMING SOON!

GOD BLESS US ALL AND LETS PRAY WE ARE GOOD STEWARDS WITH THE BLESSINGS GOD HAS BESTOWED UPON US..

IN JESUS CHRIST'S GLORIOUS NAME.

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Post by Huscarl1 Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:25 am

FREEWAY BILL wrote:...... from some $5 psychic?

GOD BLESS THE USA

Tied to GBP or USD...I hope it's GBP! Laughing

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Post by Tlcjones11 Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:41 am

Good post Rojo$! Thanks for sharing!

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Post by tport Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:11 am

Rojo$, now that is some post!!!! Nicely done. And I strongly agree with Freeway Bill!!! I think AM has let the couple of "stock courses" he took in order to give minimal financial advise has really gone to his head. He talks rates but backs it up with comments that are worse than stupid. $0.10 is an RV amount? That doesn't even make sense from an Iraqi government point of view. He is talking like a stock broker which most know nothing--that's why they are calling you everyday! IRAQ IS NOT CHANGING OUT OUR DINAR HOLDINGS!!!! So, how can they make money on every transaction if you are selling and reselling. Do you think Iraq wants to RV every 60-90 days? Can you imagine the cost of doing that every quarter in order to get to AM's $3.00 RV amount? You think the Iraqis are confused with doing this the first time; how about doing every quarter -- just to get "chump change" on additional transactions in their country?

Folks, this makes NO SENSE and I, for one, would just wish that AM would not comment anymore except on DinarVets with the rest of his LOPsters!!! Please, please just leave us alone!!

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:43 am

look at it this way and this is not meant to back up Adam. If it RV's at .10, 1.00 or 3.00 its all profit for the small investment you made, so why does it matter? Sure we all would like to get the most out of this currency exchange, that's what investing is all about, right, but if the RV comes in at .10 and the CBI gives 6 months to cashin the larger notes, then one must be happy with .10. Your investment goes form 1170 per million to $100,000.00 per million, now that's a nice return is it not? Peace from AJ

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Post by RayT Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:08 am

Well, I first had to laugh at the title of this section because Okie and Real Intel is a contradiction...

Then we have several here who have posted rates when no one knows what the rate will be until it appears on the CBI even though many Gurus say they have seen various rates on the back screens of the banks when the banks cannot possibly know the new rate before the CBI who generates the rate...

Then we also have several here who have predicted rates ignoring the economics involved with the Iraqi Budget... Anything below $3.41 will not support the Iraqi Budget that was passed back in March...

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Post by Guest Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:19 am

RayT wrote:Well, I first had to laugh at the title of this section because Okie and Real Intel is a contradiction...

Then we have several here who have posted rates when no one knows what the rate will be until it appears on the CBI even though many Gurus say they have seen various rates on the back screens of the banks when the banks cannot possibly know the new rate before the CBI who generates the rate...

Then we also have several here who have predicted rates ignoring the economics involved with the Iraqi Budget... Anything below $3.41 will not support the Iraqi Budget that was passed back in March...

You just might be right and i agree with you that number fits with the budget, but is the budget given the public the real budget? Your guess is as good as mine and others. You are right about one thing, we will not know until the day, so, its all rumor until then. Peace

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Post by me2 Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:01 am


Debating the rate is a complete waste of time IMO. Whatever it comes out at is what it will come out at. I mean seriously, I have seen such a massive amount of conjecture about the "rate" it leads me to one conclusion: hype to sell dinar.

We should simply be encouraged that Dr. Shabibi has stated many times that he wants to "increase the value of the dinar". This is coming from the Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq not some chat site guru or armchair professor. Now we really don't know what Dr. Shabibi means so we can only take his comments at face value.

The other facts to keep in mindare Iraq's vast oil wealth and current deplorable economic conditions that (it seems) can't continue much longer or even the war weary Iraqi's are going to join Eqypt and Libya to throw the politicians out. Money is what keeps people content politically, look at Kuwait and the Saudi's.

The above facts are what keep me going in this investment and I need financial help as bad as the next guy. Let's please not be concerned about rates. We need to be grateful to God for whatever increased rate that comes out and just pray (all we can do) that it happens soon before Iraq goes to complete chaos which we have to accept as a possibility. It's happening all around them. And it is not a desire for democracy folks. It's fundamenalist Islam, a very scary force.

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Post by SueR Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:24 am

Rojo this is one of the BEST posts I have read. Thank you! I too find Adam appalling! His negativity is such a "downer" and he seems to love having fun (by slinging mud/name calling) at others expense. I refer to this person a dispositional pessimist!
I enjoy your referring from the Bible and do believe we are all GOD'S children if we stay in the true path of HIS words and light.
I am grateful I have found a home on Okie's site and love the fellowship here! I am blessed and very rich in spirit here.
Thank you for bringing the true meaning of God to light here and the purpose of this gift we are receiving.
Think Good Thoughts!
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Post by zonepirate Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:38 am

AJAnderson wrote:look at it this way and this is not meant to back up Adam. If it RV's at .10, 1.00 or 3.00 its all profit for the small investment you made, so why does it matter? Sure we all would like to get the most out of this currency exchange, that's what investing is all about, right, but if the RV comes in at .10 and the CBI gives 6 months to cashin the larger notes, then one must be happy with .10. Your investment goes form 1170 per million to $100,000.00 per million, now that's a nice return is it not? Peace from AJ

I'm with ya!! ... I'll take $.10 and love it. You would be hard pressed to find a better ROI anywhere. What some have lost sight of is that this an investment

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Post by ROJO$ Thu Sep 22, 2011 1:09 pm

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You are absolutely correct, my Brother this nonsense from Adam is ridiculous, I am actually kind of embarrassed for him, when he says that the Iraqi government is going to make "Up-charges" on our exchanges, or every time someone exchanges Dinar, what an absolute knucklehead, has no one informed Adam that the United States Treasury Department is who is exchanging our Dinar? Oh ya, and the US Government has already made a deal with Iraq, to trade every single Dinar they buy back from us, specifically and directly for barrels of oil. Oh ya, the US Government is trading our Dinar, and at a tidy little profit I might add, and just for the record, this thing is all about profit, for the governments involved and the large corporations involved and the powerful people involved, you get me?

You see, the US Government made a deal a long time ago, to trade all of the Dinar that it holds and then, after the exchange, all of our Dinar, for barrels of oil at a rate of what, $32 per barrel? I think that was the rate. Oh ya, and by the way, did this guy really take the "Series 7" stock broker's licensing test? Because if he had, he would know that this whole deal is a simple hedge deal, and all of us are simple pawns in this deal., Does anyone believe that any of the Billionaires or large investment groups, governments or partners like Dick Chaeney or George Bush or George Bush Senior or any of these old Oil Guys (Like OKIE) are going to accept 0.10 cents per Dinar? These very powerful people are literally partners to the government of Iraq in this economic opportunity and would never stand for a rate of $0.10 per Dinar?

The answer to that my friends is NO, absolutely NOT, and for that matter, where our Dinars are concerned, it really doesn't affect Iraq at all to purchase our currency back from the UST, because, all it really means to them is another few barrels coming out of the ground. Then, those barrels of oil will be transferred to those US Tankers down in the Pursian Gulf, because every single Dinar we exchange will be traded for oil by the US Treasury who is exchanging our currency guys, not the Central Bank of Iraq, not the members of OPEC, not the Palestinian Authority and not the Iraqi Government.

,ALL TOGETHER NOW, THE UNITED STATES TREASURY IS BUYING MY DINAR AND THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT WILL TRADE MY DINAR FOR BARRELS OF OIL AT A RATE OF SOMETHING LIKE $32 PER BARREL!

THAT'S A FACT ADAM MONTANA, SO YOU SHOULD REALLY GET YOUR UNHAPPY LITTLE STORY STRAIGHT, AS EVERYONE IS NOW STARTING TO CATCH ON TO YOU, MY FRIEND, AS YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE A SINGLE CLUE AS TO WHAT IT IS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, DO YOU BROTHER?

WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS ADAM'S BOOK ABOUT? DOES ANYONE KNOW? I CERTAINLY HOPE THIS GUY DIDN'T GIVE ADVISE ON INTERNATIONAL CURRENCY TRADING, HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A CLUE WHO HE IS SELLING HIS CURRENCY TO....LOL

TRUST GOD GUYS AND TURN AWAY FROM ALL THOSE WHO AIM TO STEAL YOUR PEACE. KNOW THAT GOD IS ON THE THROWN AND CHRIST SITTING TO HIS RIGHT HAND, WITH OUR SEAT RESERVED FOR US IN A VERY SHORT TIME NOW!

REMEMBER, IF GOD IS FOR US, WHO COULD BE AGAINST US, FOR HE THAT IS IN US IS SO MUCH BIGGER AND MORE LOVING AND GRACIOUS THEN ANYONE OR ANYTHING IN THIS WORLD.

IN CHRIST
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