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 Is Fisher Backpedaling on the TDA? 8/11/17

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PostSubject: Is Fisher Backpedaling on the TDA? 8/11/17   Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:07 pm

Sounds like Fisher is getting concerned about possible repercussions for his role in promoting this fraud.

What if the composition of the mysterious TDA's is not what we have assumed it to be? The general concensus seems to be that the accounts hold cash, dollars, greenbacks or whatever term you want to designate funds that you/we can spend like drunken sailors. Yet, when we hear the recent successes by those who are on the calls and even on Youtube, we hear them talk of going through the financial system, getting that deer in the headlights look from bank executives who suggest that the wealth managers be brought into the conversations and asked to assist. That, folks, is when the conversations get interesting and the prospect of actually getting the elusive "funds" in the account into a place and form where they can be used and brought under our/your "control". For those who have researched and investigated the Treasury site to "find" the value, the holdings, in the accounts, what have we found? References to securities and bonds, with nothing being stated about a "pile of spendable/tranferrable cash". If you have ever purchased Savings Bonds, do you envision being able to order something on-line and use the Bond as cash? Or is there a protocol to follow to redeem the value at maturity of said Bond(s)? Furthermore, how and why do these bonds and securities find their way into these accounts? If YOU didn't "put" them there, where did they come from? Is it beyond comprehension to think that "corporate America" has been somegow responsible for them, as in maybe a compensatory use fee for using your name and "credit" to do their business? And, what if we actually require the assistance of licensed/trained wealth manager types to convert those securities and bonds into a form of currency that we/you can then use/or spend like the drunken sailors we all hope to be at some point? Just think about it.


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A couple of his previous posts:


Have any of the naysayers stated that the accounts do not exist? Have they even attempted to explain how a transaction gets a "confirmation" when you used your SSN as the avccount number? Anyone who has EVER paid a "bill" online, using a "good" account number from an account that has funds available knows and has seen the confirmation. Bad info, bad account number and/or funds not available results in a failure to complete the transaction and no "confirmation number" is or will be received. Have the naysayers tried to explain how or why an account exists inside the Fed system and/or at the Bureau of Public Debt that uses the SSN, which millioms of Americans and others have, as the account number? Are the naysayers asking us to presume/assume that the Feds use of the SSN is coincidental, when we see that they use that same number for literally everything?

http://www.dinardaily.net/t65351-let-s-clear-the-air-regarding-the-tda-by-fisher-7-15-17

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"The BUREAUCRACY reverts to its normal level of incompetence"- by Fisher 7/20/2017

July 20, 2017

Yesterday Amazon, CITIBANK, PAYPAL and others were informed that the TDA's

would be available/open, which is why Amazon told all to re-process their prior purchases CITIBANK was told by a Treasury representative/agent that the accounts would be accessible Wed-Thurs, this on a 3 way call between citi,

a citi customer and the agent. There were many such inquiries and calls with

Treasury agents, all callers were given the same or similar answers, Wed-Thurs the accounts will be "open"

Two things to remember and ponder-HSBC (Hong Kpng) said to "expect"
something around midnight and Treasury saying the TDA's were NESARA money


HSBC was expecting the USN announcement, which we all know will be the
new currency for the Republic, since they can not and will not use a fiat currency

NO ANNOUNCEMENT was made, no release.

Today, all TDA transactions are blocked, stopped, reversed and many accounts again closed or "on-hold"

Amazon, Paypal, CitiBank and other companies/vendors AND the AMERICAN
PUBLIC have a right to be very upset/angry and generally ticked-off at this bureaucratic cluster-flop.

WE ASK YOU, TREASURY, WHO is in charge, who is responsible, WHO IS ACCOUNTABLE?????

http://www.dinardaily.net/t65569-fisher-intel-update-regarding-tda-7-20-17
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PostSubject: Re: Is Fisher Backpedaling on the TDA? 8/11/17   Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:17 pm

he is backpedaling, because the heat is on (ask Yosef).

since Trade has come back for a visit, someone ask if he's backpedaling on the Gen64 group theory?  been a while since he last visited...
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PostSubject: Re: Is Fisher Backpedaling on the TDA? 8/11/17   Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:00 am

My Intel family, TDA is not new. Accessing TDA did not just happened yesterday or last month or last year. It started in 2008 or longer. A lot of new comers just jumped on the bandwagon recently about 3 to 4 months now, and have no clue what they were/are doing. They just followed the blind leading the blinds. Like anything, there's a right ways and a wrong ways to do things, and that is the majority of the crowd that came aboard this time (they are blinds). The crowd earlier were/are faithfully, followed all the guidelines and paid their bills quietly and very reserved about this TDA. They only shared it with immediate family and friends. 
They don't post it on Youtube, though. There's a guy that's on Youtube that's being doing this since 2010, following all procedures and guidelines to go about it. He is teaching it too (the right way) and he has all documents and forms available for everyone on his site. But no, people are so lazy to do that, they just wanted to jump the gun, stupidity indeed! The old folks that have being doing this for years, were only using this TDA to pay bills, and that's it. However, the new crowds want more and not following procedures. The only time the FEDs' going to come after you, when you are doing something to these accounts you are not supposed to do, like transferring a large sum of money to a CD and trying to cash it right away. There are forms to fill to do that, but when you never do that kind of transaction before and its your first time to do it and you are transferring a large sum, don't you think that wouldn't raise an eye brow per se? If this is a scam, then the scam should be on them(the government and the Federal Reserve Banks for using our names and our social security numbers without our consent), to trade us and bond us on the market platform, and authorized many business entities to use our ss# for their gain and glory, and we get the end of the stick, don't you like to get some of that gain and glory? 
Many people claiming this TDA without a clue why this TDA is there and how it got there to begin with. Those are the ones that are having problems getting thru. If you are an awakened being, then you should operate from the plateau of abundant not lack. When you are stress out and out of sync, definitely, the doors will be close on you. But if you rise your frequency and treat this TDA as part of good energy serving you, and know it is received with gratitude, you'll sail right thru. Do your research, every road leads to Rome! It is real! TDA is part of NESARA and not part of NESARA said Zorra on our Sunday call July 30th. TDA is part of many lies we had un-surfaced of truth hidden from humanity. Whatever you do, listen to your mind, but follow your heart. Much love and light to all.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Fisher Backpedaling on the TDA? 8/11/17   Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:58 am

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TDA is part of NESARA and not part of NESARA said Zorra on our Sunday call July 30th. TDA is part of many lies we had un-surfaced of truth hidden from humanity. Whatever you do, listen to your mind, but follow your heart. Much love and light to all.

Zorra? That imaginary figure that people who hear voices in their heads believe in?

Leaving aside the rest of what you wrote, the fact that you mention Zorra is enough to know that you are as deluded by this fantasy world as all the others.


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PostSubject: Re: Is Fisher Backpedaling on the TDA? 8/11/17   Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:31 am


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PostSubject: Re: Is Fisher Backpedaling on the TDA? 8/11/17   Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:47 am

Welcome to DinarDaily, avauinc.  Glad you are here. 


You're right.  This TDA scam has been going on for years as noted in an excerpt from a 2009 article.




Scam artists pay with fraudulent Treasury 'promissory' notes

By Lew Sichelman
July 5, 2009



Yet another scam designed to separate homeowners from their money is making its way across the country from the West, where desperate sellers are willing to accept just about any kind of compensation to get out from under.

This scheme involves the use of fraudulent Treasury-related promissory notes and bonds as down payments by charlatans who claim to be short on cash. In most cases the scam artists try to buy homes using these worthless documents, but in one case they actually tried to purchase an office building.

One clue that "private promissory notes" and "private offset bonds" are not on the up and up is that they carry the name of former Treasury Secretary Henry M. Paulson on their face. Private bonds and notes are neither backed nor guaranteed by the federal government, so no Treasury secretary's name would ever appear on them.

Another clue: The only type of "hard copy" bond issued by the U.S. Treasury that a citizen can purchase is a savings bond. All other bonds are electronic, so the buyer would not receive a hard copy or original document.

The Treasury Department also is investigating incidents in which people use fictitious government-related financial obligations.

In one popular scam, crooks obtain routing numbers to create false checking accounts. Under this ruse, scam artists use their Social Security numbers as the checking account numbers and list the bank as either FMS (Financial Management Service) or BPD (Bureau of Public Debt).

It is always wise for a seller or agent to check the validity of a check presented by a would-be buyer as a down payment or earnest money. Neither Treasury bureaus nor the TreasuryDirect program offers checking accounts to the public, so these invalid negotiable financial instruments will not be honored.

http://www.latimes.com/la-fi-lew5-2009jul05-story.html




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