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Post by Ssmith Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:57 am

Guru Studley:   There are people being corralled as we speak. I can't go into specifics for security reasons, but I can say that what is being completed is for our benefit. There are no negotiations going on, and I am in constant communication with the bank. There are so many moving parts, this is like a chess match in 3D, IMO, we are extremely close to the end, but, again, this is a speculation, it is very hard to see how close we TRULY are.

I don't know the exact status, but the reworking of the EU is also very closely related to our investment. This involves not only our currency, but many currencies, reworking of banking system, and other systems of the world, IMO we should be very close. I don't believe there is a holdup. This is a massive undertaking. I don't think everyone understands the magnitude of what is being accomplished. This is not a normal RV. They are breaking down financial systems worldwide, and restructuring them, it is a huge mistake to micromanage this event.

I can't get into specifics until the event is official, but you will make an appointment with the bank, and they will walk you through every step from setting accounts and structures to investments in a timely fashion, they want to handle this as quickly and easily as possible. I have reports they [lower denoms] are positioned in many of the banks all over Iraq.

Best thing I can say is stay balanced, follow the natural progression of this event and understand the magnitude of the multitude of funds that need to flow. This is the largest, by far, financial event that has ever happened. There are constant issues, and people that do not want this to happen, it is the toughest event ever to analyze.

There is no delay; they are making sure that our funds are going to be safe before, during and after. All everyone needs to know is this is a grassroots effort; the code will be given to all group leaders, and sent out by email. There will be instructions with the code on exactly how to proceed.

Based on my past experience financially, and I am not a tax specialist, so go see one, this is a currency exchange, and shouldn't be one [taxable event], EXCEPT, check with your individual states for taxes; shouldn't be taxable federally. What you are witnessing is an outright war with no bullets between the old corrupt system and new. I am actually shocked we haven't seen a bigger breakdown of financial structures and countries yet.

I know the people that are working to make the transition to the new system are not going to allow the system to fail, they are trying to make a smooth transition. Bank codes are for a much higher rate than you can get by yourself. This is a FREE code issued by WF, the team has done this to help everyone exchange at a much higher rate. This is a code specifically for WF. You can share the code as long as it is not online or in a public forum.

I am not a financial advisor, however, IMO, WF will help you set up whatever structure is best suited for your particular needs. The banks being downgraded is a very good sign, and the only large bank to not be downgraded was WF, it is part of process of transitioning to a new banking system.


Guru Bluwolf:   No intel from banks for they are on a gag order, no intel being shared by providers for they have been told that someone is leaking out information, so now all communication has stopped and all is in total silence. This is the situation folks but nothing has changed.

TEST ARE BEING DONE TO SEE THAT ALL TRANSACTIONS COME OUT WITH ALL THE SECURITIES IN THE BANKING SYSTEM, IT IS BETTER THIS WAY.  THE LONGER THE WAIT THE HIGHER THE RATE...NO HOLDUPS...WE NOW AWAIT THE INTERNATIONAL RELEASE...WE ARE ON FINAL COUNTDOWN...WE ARE SECOND BY SECOND.

THE FACT IS THAT WE NOW AWAIT FOR THAT ILLUSIVE PHONE CALL. IT IS APPARANT THAT WE SHALL HAVE SOME INFO BEING RECIEVED SOON, AND I WISH FOR ALL TO JUST RELAX FOR YOU SHALL BE SURVED ANY SECOND NOW.

JUST BECAUSE THERE IS SOME INSIGHTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY AND THAT SHOULD BE RESOLVE SHORTLY,DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU ARE NOT MILLIONAIRES AS WE SPEAK,,ALL ASPECTS OF THIS CALLING HAS BEEN COVERED,,YOU WILL GET THE BEST RATES EVER,,AND YOUR LIVES WILL CHANGE FOR THE BEST,,BUT YOU MUST START TO THINK LIKE THE MILLIONAIRES THAT YOU ALREADY ARE AND THAT TIME IS NOW..BLUWOLF


Guru BOBGETZ6:    Good afternoon! I felt the rumblings of the earth yesterday of what was to be an exciting evening and a certain rv. Much excitement abounded and for only two, out of all the times I have been told it was going to happen, I admit I was almost excited. I awoke again to dashed expectations and not having had much sleep. In DinarRecaps

I read both BWM's as well as Okie's post. I hope that Okie's post is correct and we are rid of the foxes and this can now go forward. However, there always seems to be some lame excuse as to why it has not. I speak with BWM almost daily, if not text, and except for the part about "hair transplants," I agree with his Recaps post.

The people that bother me are those that throw the bones out there like those who seemed to get Wells Fargo all excited, if they were. As I have always said, there is that unknown piece of the puzzle that doesn't quite fit, and I am ready to become a puzzle piece maker.


Guru OkieOilman:    1. HEN HOUSE - A fox…Bad Entity…was trying to get into hen house last week but the farmer…Good Entity…is dealing with the fox. The farmer is protecting the dinarians…good will prevail!

2. SAFETY OVER IMMEDIACY – The Good Entity has made it very clear that they will not release this until they know the money will be safe once you have exchanged your dinar…good will prevail!

3. BANKS DOWNGRADE – Note…WELLS FARGO was the only large national bank that was not downgraded. This should make you very cautious about which bank you use to exchange your dinar…good will prevail!

4. DINAR IN HANDS – Please dinarians DON’T give your dinar to a third part or do a third party exchange outside of the bank. You will have the FREE Bank-Exchange Code. Use it if you want or don’t…that is your choice…but please at least keep your dinar in your hands and you take your dinar directly to the bank and you deal with the banker yourself…good will prevail!

5. NO ONE CASHED OUT – No one cashed out last week. Many were led to believe that someone cashed out…but please know that the bank said, “NO ONE HAS CASHED OUT” at the bank. What you heard about were a third party side deal…be very careful! BTW…this is a “CURRENCY EXCHANGE” not a “CASH OUT”…you already have cash in your hands…IQD cash…good will prevail!

6. TRUE DONE SIGN – Look for one of these two true done signs… #1 - A live rate on the public site…and/or… #2 You have the FREE Bank-Exchange Code. DON’T believe “cash out rumors”…good will prevail!

7. GOOD WILL PREVAIL – dinarians this is a fight between the Good Entity and the Bad Entity…Okie Oil Man believes good will prevail!

8. DON’T GIVE UP – live your life taking care of your issues with what you can do yourself while knowing in the back of your mind that this will be done at some time because Iraq needs a tradable currency…good will prevail!

OKIE HAS GOT YOUR BACK AND IS UP TO THE MOMENT ON INTEL -- WILL SHARE WHEN AUTHORIZED --GOD BLESS AND KEEP THE FAITH .  GONE FOR NOW


Guru FreewayBill:  Well, you know I have been silent and for a very good reason...  Some long time "SOURCES" have been exposed for misinformation that they have purposely been providing to some of our best intel providers ....  Three letter agency sources have been feeding out lies for years, now they will be silent.  Thank GOD! 

This is great news!  The confusion may just be less than before and I came on to tell you that I have been in sync with the news that Okie has been providing all of you for the past month.  Okie IS IN FACT giving you the real deal.  His information is coming from the REAL and RIGHT sources.  He is being used as a messenger to all of us in what is going on, so after all this time, do yourself a favor and read everything Okie puts out.  When he says words like "FOX in the HENHOUSE", he is right on the money!

Get your affairs in order as time draws near for the end of all of this.  As we all know, we cannot be sure of the exact day or time but we know that each day gets us closer and that is because things are happening that needed to happen in our own system and those abroad.

Okie is not crying WOLF .... not this time....  GOD BLESS OKIE for cooperating with those up high..

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU and GOODNIGHT!


Guru Bondlady:   kurds [are] saying were not gonna give up on art 140 an hcl...what have we been seeing in the news...hcl ready for vote...art 140, billons dinar being pd out on it...like ive said for 2 yrs... kurds will get the majority of there way...allawi will maybe get some.

putting someone in the minister of defense...imo is harder to do than the hcl and art 140 both and i totally understand this dilema...whoever holds that holds iraq in there hands.   Obedi ...was accepted by all...was 100% accepted by EVERYONE.   Allawi...doesnt want progress...he only wants destroy the Maliki gov...he wouldnt have pulled his name back at the beginning when they all acepted him, he had just found out he wouldnt get supreme council post so he began to stir crap and stop any other kind of progress, so he pulled Obedis name out...the hcl had been being done, many of the points were being worked on to implement, but when he jerked back Obedi, that stopped all progress, imo.


Guru Med:  US BANKS DONT HAVE THE LOOSE LIPS LIKE WHAT HAS GONE ON IN IRAQ.  AT ONE POINT THE US BANKS HAD A WATCH AND BELIEVED IT WOULD REVALUE THAT WAS 09, IT IS 12 NOW THEY WONT BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY UNLESS THEY SHOW THEM THE MONEY, THAT IS ALL BANKS CARE ABOUT.  IF WALL STREET IS WATCHING...I AM SURE THE BANKS ARE.


Guru BWM:   there has been a great deal of speculation in the last 24 hours about where we are...the information is still good.  THIS IS BEING CONTROLLED AND while we get a bone thrown to us every day, we are still subject to the changes and delays that get thrown at us the same time, they are giving us "expectations"... my expectations have not changed...I continue to "look" and prepare for this to arrive at the earliest possible opportunity...however long that takes.


Guru Vic1:   THE EXCHANGE RATE IS OUTSIDE OF ANY COUNTRIES BORDERS! NOT INTERNAL! THE PURCHASE PRICE IS EFFECTED IN COUNTRY! THE EXCHANGE RATE IS THE PRICE AND WORTH OF ANY COUNTRIES CURRENCY ABROAD!

IF TALABANI DID RESIGN THEN TAREK AL- HASHEMI WOULD BE PRESIDENT RIGHT? THEN THAT WOULD BE MALIKI'S WORST NIGHT MARE!!! THINK ABOUT THAT, THE MAN HE WANTS TO ARREST FOR TERRORISM IS WHO TAKES HIM DOWN, FUNNY!!

LOOK... IT IS VERY SIMPLE....I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE TIRED...FRUSTRATED... GO AND LISTEN ..SOMETIMES TO MANY DIFFERENT IDEAS...HOWEVER... IN WHARTON SCHOOL OF ECONOMICS... OR HARVARD... NO ONE LEARNS OF THE ART OF SALE! THAT IS LEARNED THROUGH EXPERIENCE!!! THE COMMON FORMULA..IN CAPITAL MARKETS ARE...BUY LOW AND SELL HIGH!!! IN HEAVENLY FATHERS SCHOOL OF LIFE...NEVER SELL OUT!!! NEVER ALLOW SATIN...THE PLEASURE OF STEALING YOUR DREAM... LET ALONE YOUR GIFT... WHY..DO YOU THINK OUR HEAVENLY FATHER...SENT CHRIST INTO THE DESSERT... HE WELL KNEW...THAT SATIN COULD NOT AND WOULD WIN!!! THE KING OF KINGS...IT ALL BELONGS TOO...HOW WOULD SATIN GIVE SOMETHING AWAY...THAT NEVER BELONGED TO HIM ANYWAYS? YOUR DINARS ARE A GIFT TO YOU!!! RESPECT IT, PROTECT IT... HOWEVER DO NOT FALL IN LOVE WITH IT!!! I JUST WANT TO SAY...PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE TO STEAL...YOUR GIFT!!! PLEASE!!! THANK YOU... ALL! VIC1TGK YOUR BROTHERMAN...AS LONG AS I LIVE!!!


Guru Doc:    Several have rightly pointed out that the CBI had indicated earlier dates for issuance of the new currency but those dates have come and gone.  We must remember too Shabibi has stated numerous times he needs to see certain actions by the GOI before he will pull the trigger.  These actions revolve around a stable political climate and include a fully seated GOI, power sharing, Ebril, etc.  Everyone of us knows that Iraq isn't there yet.  Our opionion is Maliki is the main issue with this in that his lack of follow through to his commitments were highlighted in the recent report to the UNSC.  Remember too Shabibi knows that a major driver of currency stability on the world markets is political stability. 

So where do we stand ? Simply stated the GOI must become functional which looks like a seat GOI and Ebril resolved.  As we see this we are convinced these other issues should as Chapter 7 will be resolved quickly.  At this point Shabibi will be in position to pull the trigger.  If we look at recent statements by the UNSC and the CBI it appears they believe it will be 4th quarter 2012 at the earliest before the GOI can get it together.   The next UNSC meeting is then and if Shabibi want to start dedollarization before the new currency hits is issued the RV will need to happen then.  We report, you decide.


Guru BGG:  Looks like we could have the session [emergency session of parliament]  started in Arbil as early as Tuesday. This is spectacular news!!  If this happens without Maliki having done a deal – my take is…he is completely “porked”. There is no way he survives. I had alluded to the fact a Parliament session on Maliki could happen Thurs/Sat/Sun and then we hear about some outcome Monday or Tuesday – but Tuesday is fine. I don’t mind being off a day or two here and there.


Guru DinarWishes:    I think this quarter is one of the best Ive ever seen...Markets are going crazy...Precious metals and oil and all of the "Assets" are getting ready to rebound and rebound hard...Hmmm why do you think that is?


Guru Adam Montana:   to put things in perspective for you - "RV" stands for "Re Value", which is a term used mostly by investors like us. We don't expect Iraq to announce a potential "RV", so the most we can expect them to say is "increase the value"... which they do say, and they say it frequently.


Guru Enorrste:  I have actually been quite impressed that the Parliament is standing up both for the Constitution and for the democratic process. They are not threatened by Maliki at all, which is amazing.

It implies clearly that they have the numbers needed to remove him, and then some. I was also amazed that they had the ****** [uhh ohh!!] to say they'd move the meeting to another province if necessary.

Clearly a statement that they weren't threatened by Maliki's removal of the Krails in front of the Parliament building.

In short, they are saying that democracy will prevail. But even more importantly, to me, is the fact that several Mps have come out directly and stated unequivocally that Maliki Will Be Removed.


Guru SWFloridaGuy:  I just wanted to say how much I appreciated the conference call Scooter-EG, Enoch8, Patriot, Russell, Marcus Curtis and TenMillion did last night. It's not an easy task to take the challenging topics head on and they did.

They also put out a challenge to the "any minute" hypers for a healthy debate. I would very much like to hear that call but I will be surprised if they have any takers, which should tell you something in and of itself.

  Many intel providers rely on "super secret intel" from sources who have no evidence to substantiate their claims and whose credibility is highly suspect at this point. This has proven to be an inaccurate way to approach this.

 We should encourage healthy debate, it will only lead to a better understanding for all parties involved.

One thing not mentioned on the call that I would like to hear addressed is the SIGR report. According to the SIGR's (special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction) quarterly report sent to the US Congress, the IMF and the CBI both project GDP to grow by 12% in 2012. 

Crude oil reached its highest production in decades and foreign commercial activity jumped 40%. The CoR who among other things pass federal laws, ratify treaties and approve nominations of specified officials, recently approved the largest budget in the country's history.

The SIGR report states Iraq's currency reform project, the goal of which is to raise the exchange rate of the IQD to a level just less than equal to the USD, has been postponed due to political tensions. I still believe in a RV 100%. 

I just don't think we should expect a high rate initially and, in actuality, that would be a dramatic change that would have global financial implications of historic proportions.

My money is with the SIGR report until I hear a good rebuttal as to why I should disregard it.  I'm also still of the belief that a RV depends upon inflation and stability.

This was also backed up in the SIGR report that stated the economic reforms had been delayed due to political tensions.

Nothing in this is guaranteed but the hope is as soon as the political crisis is resolved and we see announcements of Erbil, HCL, Ministers and the Strategic Council, there will be adequate stability and no remaining obstacles left to overcome from a political standpoint. These are just my opinions, which may or may not be correct.


Guru Generals64:   You guys/gals:....just for safety's sake let me assure you that the people running this site will have your back as has been posted. There is a lot of "funny" information floating around and we are watching it very closely... Personally, I'd rather watch my wife. So much has been contemplated throughout this entire ordeal but we'll keep you posted.... Win, lose or draw......

generals64: If you need to ask...then ask...whether or not it can be answered is a question within itself....

generals64: Wow #1......I heard today the logistical problems were taken care of...totally....

#2... I have two friends who DID cash out in Kuwait and they were not taxed...don't quote me...get a lawyer...

#3.I don't think the banks are technically ready as they don't want or need us to know the exact time....

Personally...I think we are close enough to smell it....
Now, I was told to quit posting by one of the do-dahs and so I have...
But, it looks good to me right now..


Guru Scooter:  I think we are still looking later but this is a major structural benchmark for the Iraqis HUGE IMO  It's been on the list of things to complete sinced the 2006 MOU  Memo of Understanding they had so many accounts out of control  it was terrible

Ernst and Young reported it was the worst case of a bank audit  they had ever seen ] but ] that was back in 2007 too much corruption too many open accounts all over the world  but here's the thing to remember

Imagine  if you take those two government banks  that do over 85% of all the countries transactions and you now clean the books up and Re-Value/Devalue their assets   they've essentially change the valuation of the whole country and that to me is a starting point  but I don't

I see them following their plan and I see many changes in 2013 NP that's it I think it's good news.   the part that I liked also  great news was the line in discussed the new currency it translated weird -- but it's very intriguing to see the timing and release of this information from the council of ministers

BAGHDAD / Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network - revealed the parliamentary finance committee that Iraq will see the two currencies traded at the same time over the next year 2013 of the new currency in circulation after deletion of zeros with the survival of the current currency trading throughout the year in question.

A member of the Finance Committee Hassan Salman's (Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network) that "the central bank operates in more than six months from now on the position of the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency and the current that will be applied starting from next year."

 He pointed out that "the Finance Committee informed and in constant contact with the central bank governor and his aides who constantly learn about the Finance Committee on the details of this issue and the process of replacing the current currency the new currency will continue over the next year.

" He said, "will end the current currency, the beginning of 2014 and this process will lead to the strengthening of the Iraqi currency fluctuations, especially after the Iraqi dinar exchange rate against the U.S. dollar in recent times."

And that "currency adjustment will benefit the Iraqi economy and will facilitate the handling of cash in the country by reducing the money supply in circulation now, which Tkdrbhawwala 30 trillion dinars." He revealed the CBI earlier that the new Iraqi currency will increase by three zeros, indicating that he made an extensive study concluded that the lifting of the zeroes will strengthen the value of the Iraqi currency. http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.imn.iq

It's surprising however that this article states that the currency will end 2014 ] I read another article that it would be available for another 10 years  but it flows with what we've been discussing for the past month they will deploy a HYBRID solution  they will introduce the lower notes and methodically suck in the larger notes  while at the same time  increasing their CPI values of products and goods the real question will be their economy and how well they diversify  and begin their primary bond market those will determine the sustainabilty of any rate just my two cents

Yea  it does  it fits real nice with that time frame also  or early 2014  biennium means two years if you remember the world bank reform program for Iraq concludes  in october of 2013  so I can see them start to introduce the new notes in 1st or 2nd quarter of 2013 and start the process.  heck it could be sooner than that if they have the printing presses rockin those notes out




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