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Post by DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE on Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:09 am

At Least That's What the Scammers Say



Several years ago, rumors started circulating around the investing world about a revaluation of the Iraqi dinar. I'm not sure where they started, but I'm hoping this is where they end.


You see, there are some unscrupulous people out there trying to convince retail investors that, because of the oil reserves under Iraqi soil and the potential billions of dollars the sale of that oil could bring to the country, an investment in Iraqi dinar will make you a multimillionaire overnight.
They've told people that the dinar will eventually be on par with the U.S. dollar. And they've convinced many that this will happen overnight by action of the national bank in Iraq "revaluing" the currency.



Redenomination = Real Thing, Revaluation = Pipe Dream


First, let me explain something. While I am not an expert in currencies and don't profess to be, I do consider myself somewhat of an expert in research. And with just a little research, you can find out that massive "revaluation" by a central bank isn't something that's going to happen to a currency.


Redenomination, however, is a real thing. Sometimes a country will call back its currency in exchange for a new one in an attempt to curb inflation and give more buying power to its citizens. It will print new notes and exchange the old ones for these new ones at a particular rate... say something like 100 old notes for one new one — sometimes more, sometimes less, depending on how badly the currency has inflated.
And while the value of a pegged currency is determined by a country's central bank, the possibility of a massive revaluation (such as what is being proposed for the dinar) is slim to none. In the history of the world, there have been several revaluations, but never large and never quick. For example China has revalued the yuan by about 25% over the course of a decade. But further on in this article you'll see why even a 25% increase in value wouldn't even let you break even on an investment in the dinar. So dreams of making millions overnight are exactly that - dreams.


That being said, redenomination and revaluation sound similar, so it's easy to get confused. But even when a currency's value is pegged to other currencies and controlled by a central bank, it's not going to skyrocket in value overnight - likely not even over the course of many years.



Different Currency, Same Scam


The dinar isn't the first, nor is it the only currency that scammers use to part investors with their money. I've also been asked about (and seen offers myself for) other currencies.


The Vietnamese dong — another severely inflated currency — is a popular one these days.


As was the Egyptian pound a few years ago.
None seem to have gotten as much mileage as the dinar scam, but all run along the same lines. Buy this currency and make millions in profits overnight when the government magically changes it from worthless to equivalent with the U.S. dollar.



How the Scam Works


Basically, through a combination of investors' greed, alleged inside information from deep within a government, and the fact that you can accept physical delivery of the currency (touch it, hold it, show it off to friends while bragging about what a great investment you stumbled across), scammers have been able to part investors from millions (if not billions) of dollars. In fact, just recently a scamming ring that bilked investors out of $24 million here in the U.S. was broken up by the FBI.
The scammers would profess to have inside information about a revaluation that was soon to take place that would put the dinar on par with the dollar and mint instant millionaires and billionaires when it did. They regaled potential investors with statistics about Iraq's oil reserves and the money that would add to the economy when sold on the open market. They said they had special permission from the U.S. government to deal in dinars and that they had connections within the Iraqi government that would tell them exactly when the change was about to take place so they and their clients could load up on dinars right before and get rich overnight.


And even though we all know that if it sounds too good to be true, it's likely a scam, many investors still went for the bait and invested large sums of money.

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Why Dinars (and Dongs) Won't Make You Rich



As I've already explained, the value of a currency is set on the open market, and a government isn't going to have much luck changing how much other people will pay for it. But another point to make about these scams is that the perpetrators were taking a cut — an exchange fee — from investors, were charging for delivery of the notes, and weren't even offering the notes at the official exchange rates.


For example, I found a site that's still offering to sell you Iraqi dinars. For $261 (that includes shipping), they'll send you 250,000 in dinars. Not bad, right? Wrong! At the current exchange rate, $261 should get you about 304,470 in dinars. So, if you take the bait and buy from that site, you're already down 22%. The dinar has to go up 22% just for you to break even! Still sound like a good idea?


It's the same with sites offering Egyptian pounds and Vietnamese dongs. You lose so much in the initial transaction that even if the currencies do increase, you'll still end up losing money.


Part of the loss is because of the spreads offered by the few banks that carry these thinly traded currencies — they keep them wide so they can make enough of a profit to make it worth carrying them. The rest of the loss is because you're getting scammed.


What's Next?



Fortunately, many people have caught on to the dinar scam. A cursory search of the Internet yields hundreds of articles warning you against these investments. In fact, the scam became so widespread that the FBI is going after these companies.


Side note: If you feel like you've been the victim of such a scam or have been contacted by someone trying to sell you on it, you can and should report them to the FBI on the agency's website.


So, the dinar scam is coming to an end. But that's not going to stop these scammers from trying to get your money. There are still a lot of other untapped currencies for them to push.


I wouldn't be surprised to see the Iranian rial make a move to replace the Iraqi dinar as the scammer's choice.


You'll be told about the untold wealth lying under Iran's oil fields. You'll hear about the progressive moves being made by the government there. You'll be reminded that the U.S. sanctions on exporting oil have recently been lifted and that as the crude starts to flow, Iran will get rich and the currency will skyrocket.


Iran may get rich (once oil prices recover more), but the currency is not going to skyrocket. I would imagine it will see some upward momentum, but not enough to make you rich overnight, and probably not enough to recoup that 22% to 25% loss you took in the initial transaction.
So watch out for the next round of currency scams.


Some Currencies You Can Count On



If you really want to invest in currencies (and aren't an expert in the foreign exchange markets), pick ones that are more common and easier to get. To get you started, I'll give you a few of my favorites:
The Euro: It trades around $1.09 for one euro. This is way lower than it's been in the recent past and is influenced by the uncertainty of investors about 1) European economies and 2) the stability of the EU after the Brexit vote earlier this year. The EU has a pretty strong economy, though, and while it's going through a tough time, it is likely to stay together. As the economy recovers and the fear abates, the exchange rate will go back up, and your euros will be worth more in USD than what you paid.
The British Pound: It's trading at about $1.22 for one GBP. Again, that is a historically low rate (not the lowest ever, but far lower than the $2 a pound it averaged for decades before the Brexit). Again, this is based on uncertainty about the British economy after its exit from the EU. But again, the United Kingdom has a pretty solid economy, and while it may not get back to the $2 per pound rate we knew in years past, it should recover from current levels.


The Canadian Dollar: Let's not forget our neighbors to the north. The CAD is trading around $0.75 per CAD. This is a currency that was just recently on par with the USD and a country whose economy is strong enough that it could easily get back there.


The one common thing about all these currencies is just that: they're common. Banks carry them and aren't going to charge you an arm and a leg to exchange your dollars for them. So you're not going to start off 25% in the hole like you would with those other currencies I talked about above.
So, if you're not planning on traveling to Iraq, Vietnam, Egypt, or Iran in the near future, you're better off holding onto your dollars and investing them in the stocks we recommend in Wealth Daily and in our premium services like The Wealth Advisory.

If you are heading to any of those countries, however, by all means, get some of their currencies — it'll save you some cash when you're shopping for souvenirs over there if you can pay in dinars, dongs, pounds, or rials. Otherwise, avoid them like the plague. And pass the warning on to your friends and families. I don't want to hear about anyone else losing their money on scams like these.


To investing with integrity (and spotting scams a mile away),
Jason Williams
Wealth Daily



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Post by Light Being on Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:01 am

I guess we better include Wells Fargo and Bank of America in this Dinar and Vietnamese Dong scam and turn them over to the FBI as they also were selling both and still the Dong!

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Post by Ssmith on Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:10 am

The currency isn't a scam.....  

The scam is when Dinar Gurus (AdminBill, Yosef, Frank26, Bruce Dingleberry, etc.) promote those currencies by saying they will greatly appreciate in value and lure suckers into buying it!
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Post by Light Being on Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:11 pm

Discernment is the key, whether or not some person decides to buy or sell any currency, stock, gold, silver or anything else of value or not, it is all still a risk and on any level you are still going to have promoters no matter what is being bought or sold. So, you should also add automobile sellers to the list.

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Post by Ssmith on Thu Apr 27, 2017 12:48 pm

@Light Being wrote:Discernment is the key, whether or not some person decides to buy or sell any currency, stock, gold, silver or anything else of value or not, it is all still a risk and on any level you are still going to have promoters no matter what is being bought or sold. So, you should also add automobile sellers to the list.


Name me one car salesman who said you would become a gazillionaire if you purchased a vehicle from them....  Excluding noted Dinar Guru AdminBill....  who, in addition to being a stellar suit salesman, was also a USED CAR SALESMAN!!!


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As many of you know sales is in my blood so I am very happy for this wonderful opportunity provide by the management team at Ken Garff Chevrolet. Since the Ken Garff Automotive Group represents all brands please feel free to contact me for your dream car, work truck, graduation present or any of your automotive needs. So, whether your needs are related to the purchase of a new or used vehicle or Star Tech EAV/CEDS technology I am here to serve you. Thanks for a taking moment of your day as I shared my excitement with you today!
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Post by DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE on Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:25 pm

@Light Being wrote:Discernment is the key, whether or not some person decides to buy or sell any currency, stock, gold, silver or anything else of value or not, it is all still a risk and on any level you are still going to have promoters no matter what is being bought or sold. So, you should also add automobile sellers to the list.
My son just got scammed buying 2 ounces of gold for $500 thinking he could sell it for $2000 Well guess what? It was gold PLATED!! There's scams in everything of value but the only one that promises a 100,000% return is the RV and only the dumbest of the dumb can still believe this scam!!!!!!!!
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Post by DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE on Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:31 pm

@Light Being wrote:I guess we better include Wells Fargo and Bank of America in this Dinar and Vietnamese Dong scam and turn them over to the FBI as they also were selling both and still the Dong!

Wells Fargo and BOA exchanged Dinar&Dong because there was a lot of customers asking for them. WF stopped the dinar when they started to get complaints and the dinar is the only one they literally tell u on their 800 exchange number that they DON'T deal with it!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Light Being on Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:35 pm

Discernment is still the key and the point of all this!

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Post by Ssmith on Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:45 pm

@Light Being wrote:Discernment is still the key and the point of all this!

Exactly why we're here....  We're helping people with their discernment!
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Post by Light Being on Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:54 pm

That's not what I read. What I read here is anger and no real opinions as to why you believe these gurus are wrong. Sure you point to someone else's opinions once in a while, bit it is still mostly coming from anger. And that friend is a culinary recipe for the disaster of further separation.

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Post by Ssmith on Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:57 pm

Not at all interested in your culinary recipes of rainbows, lollipops and other assorted new age BS!
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Post by Light Being on Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:26 pm

@Ssmith wrote:Not at all interested in your culinary recipes of rainbows, lollipops and other assorted new age BS!

Yep, anger!

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Post by Light Being on Thu Apr 27, 2017 2:30 pm

Why not do something constructive, like looking into some of these article these Gurus post. Like for instance, Zap article the other day that made the claim, "USN=Next day rate". I called 2 bankers and one person I know at the US central bank and they all said the same thing. It does not mean "next day rate". Then I know he is full of it!

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Post by Ssmith on Thu Apr 27, 2017 3:53 pm

@Light Being wrote:Why not do something constructive, like looking into some of these article these Gurus post. Like for instance, Zap article the other day that made the claim, "USN=Next day rate". I called 2 bankers and one person I know at the US central bank and they all said the same thing. It does not mean "next day rate". Then I know he is full of it!



I believe I addressed that particular subject yesterday morning.

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Post by DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE on Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:52 pm

@Light Being wrote:That's not what I read. What I read here is anger and no real opinions as to why you believe these gurus are wrong. Sure you point to someone else's opinions once in a while, bit it is still mostly coming from anger. And that friend is a culinary recipe for the disaster of further separation.
I've never laughed so hard in my life f@cking with idiots like u 
NO ANGER AT ALL SNOWFLAKE.
Maybe I believe that the gurus are wrong because they are still saying the same exact thing they said 6yrs ago. When u don't know what you're talking about please don't say anything Star Light 
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11-19-2011 Guru Jonnywg   absolute confirmation of rv rate by iraq citizen cashing in kuwaite and the wells fargo removing all restrictions on the iqd...WF had complete restrictions (not allowed to buy it, sell it or cash in) and as of today all those restrictions have been lifted - the first time in 2 years

11-19-2011  Guru Okie_Oil_Man   [via Bulldog75]  I am acutely aware of all the current information regarding the IQD. It's important to follow the money and oil contracts. You should see the CBI rates very soon.

11-19-2011  Guru Mailman17   GOOD ARTICLES TODAY...A SLIP OF THE TONGUE...BY THE KURDS...LOL,I LOVE IT.  I CAN SEE SHABS NOW...SAYING...SHHHH..I TOLD YOU NOT TO SAY ANYTHING YET...LOL AND THE KURDS SAYIN...BUT I WANT MY MONEY NOW!...LOL CLASSIC.  I STILL THINK SHABS WILL WAIT TILL HIS VOTE GOES...WHATS A WEEK IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS...I AM VERY EXCITED HOW THE NEWS IS PLAYING OUT...YOU ALL SHOULD BE TOO...JUST RELAX...TAKE THIS DAY BY DAY...AND LOOK FOR SOMETHING AFTER THE 20TH..

11-19-2011  Guru Med    [referencing article] SALARIES ARE IN PLACE EFFECTIVE 1/1/11 FOR SECURITY FORCES, WHAT THE KURDS ARE TRYING TO DO AND SAY IS THAT WITH THE EXCHANGE RATE INCREASE COMING THIS WEEK IT WILL INCREASE THE SALARIES BUT WANT TO GET THE INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE NEW RATE OF EXCHANGE MADE RETROACTIVE TO THE SALARY DATE INCREASE WHICH WAS 1/1/11.  NOT GOING TO FLY.  SO THERE YOU HAVE IT, IT PLAINLY STATES EXCHANGE RATE INCREASE THIS WEEK ON THE DINAR WE KNOW THAT IT CANT BE A PAY RAISE PASSED CUZ PARLIAMENT IS NOT IN SESSION.

11-19-2011  Guru Jonnywg   The news today is overwhelming...we are truly headed towards the holy grail...I have received more confirmation than i can imagine. People...they are cashing in in KUWAITE...Iraq employees are getting RV'd dinar deposits in their bank accounts, Iraq employers are getting paid in RV'd Dinar...i feel strong about our chances and yes i felt it was to rv Last Monday but it took a week to push through the fine print.

11-19-2011  Guru TonyTNT   STILL IN CONTACT WITH BOTH SIDES OF THE POND. INFORMATION IS STILL FLOWING IN.  DETAILS ARE GETTING BETTER ALL THE TIME.  WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO SUNDAY/MONDAY. 

11-19-2011  Guru Kaperoni  [referencing article] we see they are going to change the exchange rate first, then issue the smaller new notes.  they mention again “public awareness” which may include articles, meetings or further discussions so there is a “willingness to accept the project” as they state. Clearly, this may take some additional time to accomplish.  they are asked if the CBI can do this without the help of the state (GOI and Parliament).  Though they may be able to…they don’t want to.  Though they all now seem to agree. The project seems to be on a slower track than most want to admit.

11-19-2011  Guru Bulldog75   New Update: We should see the CBI rate post, inside window by 6:00AM cst.Sunday morning. Outside window 6:00AM Monday morning.

11-19-2011  Newshound Guru Bondlady   ive read so many articles where it says straight out half the goi and parliment have no clue or knowledge about any of these laws they need to pass...they dont tell each other the things they need to so every 1 will be on the same page they keep things to themselves because it serves there own interest...just like the terms of erbril... the house said many times we dont even know what those agreements were and barzani at 1 time threatened maliki if he didnt get article 140 on the road an do more of implementing that and or pass the hcl hed reveal to every one what those agreements were.   now tell me this how in the world could any country do any thing this way, because its self serving and maliki doesnt wanna show his poker hand to every one yet.   its crazy and its slow they only know how to sabatoge each other but they are comming along believe it or not...u cant change a 5000 yr old mind set over night it takes time,  but they are getting there

11-19-2011  Guru Poppy3   do you remember when we where waiting on the war to end then the election, then the decision of who would be named PM, and that took months, then the cabinet , ministers, parliment , Paris agreement group, kuwait negociations , then chapter7 etc etc.   NOW WE ARE AT THE VERY END OF THIS TRIAL BY FIRE KEEP YOUR HEADS UP AND STAND IN FAITH WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A WONDERFUL THANKSGIVING.

11-19-2011  Guru Kaperoni   [referencing article]   straight forward, Telling us that economic development and success of this event is not just the responsibility of the CBI acting alone, (though we wish it was) but good monetary policy along with other economic activities will improve the overall performance or result.  It is apparent that the CBI is stating that the banks need to take responsibility for this as they will be the principle means of collecting and distributing the new notes.  they are assuring the people that the banks are going to be the regulatory and administrative system, including state banks which all will help decide the appropriate time to implement it. As well they mention, raising zeros lies in raising the value of local currency in internal and external (international) economic circulation. Again no LOP. They are confirming they are bringing the wealth back to the people.

11-19-2011  Guru Bluwolf   there is news coming out detailing that contractors and military have cashed in but I would like to stand on the side line on all this info, I frankly hope that the informants are right this time around. Now there are four hi-level officials from the US in Iraq this weekend and this is a sign of something occurring, we all know that all the banks are ready, we all know that the UST no longer has its hands on this RV it is in the hands now of the BIS, we all know that the system has been reset and that Monday at 9:15 am est is the next possible date for this to be seen, we also know for a fact that the rates both of the dinar and the dong will be high, we also know that our Vice President will be in Iraq shortly to start pulling out our troops (Iraq must have a GOI and a RV before that happens) starting December 1st. So as you can see we are going to see a RV between now till the 30 of November...THIS RIDE IS OVER

11-19-2011  Newshound Guru Bondlady   the cbis huge reserves could take up the slack for all the 2012 budget if it wanted too... the cbi has the largest reserves ever...the cbi comes bk an says...yep we do, because i worked hard and didnt rob from it to make it that way and ...this large reserve would have a positive impact on the Iraqi dinar exchange rate, leading to strengthened in the future, saying it would give some sort of credibility in dealing with the Iraqi currency if Iraq opened with the most economically developed countries...cbi says yet again when they greedily eye the cbi reserves...the Government cannot be manipulated or borrow from the Central Bank reserves to bridge the budget deficit (2012), the fact that these amounts are cover for existing Iraqi currency...the reserves is backing the currency in circulation.

11-19-2011  Guru Bulldog75   MOSQUES HAVE MADE ANNOUNCEMENTS OF 'IN COUNTRY RV' AND CONFIRMED OVER AND OVER WE ARE SIMPLY AWAITING FOR EVERYTHING TO SHOW UP, IN ORDER. THE DOMINOS WILL 'GENTLY FALL IN ORDER'. AFTER CBI RATE POST, IMF APPARENTLY CAN TAKE UP TO 72 HOURS TO IMPLEMENT. THIS IS DEALING WITH SOME TYPE INTERNATIONAL LAW. UST WILL POST WHAT THE IMF ALLOWS. IMHO, AND SOURCES ARE CONFIRMING, THIS RATE SHOULD COME IN OVER 4.40+ .  WE ARE AS CLOSE AS IT GETS. TIME WILL BRING IN THE POSTED RATE. 

11-19-2011  Guru Poppy3   after...trying to verify so many details  I am thinking the predictions of the RV being announced on or before next monday or tuesday is a very serious possibility...i am just going to set my goal at before tuesday night and pray that enough of the details are correct it will happen before then. 

11-19-2011  Guru Breitling   Their Minimum target rate is $1, don't know if they will come out at that. In a speech Shabibi said when the U. S. troops left then they would start the process & Saleh, one of the main guys at the CBI  talked about how they would reduce the money supply down to $15 Trillion and they would start really soon, but this doesn't guarantee a time frame or a rate.  

11-19-2011  Guru Jonnywg  IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS WE WILL KNOW THE FATE...I fully expect updated info shortly and will report. Nothing has changed from last night. the job is not done but all indications are that we will see results to our advantage shortly. TODAY will have more info passed on to us and I will provide it. The MOSQUE STATEMENTS ARE VERIFIED. IRAQ is the richest coumtry in the world

11-19-2011  Guru Freeway Bill   Nothing changed since yesterday. We wait for UST to finish their ordered chores and then you should see it. Hopefully on CBI tomorrow or tonight. When this is activated IMF can hold cash ins for up to three days. Pay no attention the negative posts. We have confirmation on so many things it boggles my mind. Remember we are still dealing with Iraq but they need this more than we do. 

11-18-2011  Guru Jonnywg  WE ARE IN THE POSITION WE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE...READY FOR ACTION... IRAQ made several announcements which pretty much summed it up...Iraq is the richest country in the world, why...because they monetized their assets and revalued their currency inside Iraq.  We will see the banks change their postings to accomodate these changes. we have verified the Mosque claims with several companies and individuals. Could something happen to stop it...I guess, but it does not change the fact that everything is done, posted and awaiting the activation...SUNDAY 2AM IS A PRIME TIME

11-18-2011  Guru Bulldog75   "SPEED UP DRILL, HIGHER RATE COMING NOW, TEMPERATURE ON CAKE CONTINUES TO RISE. CASH REGISTERS AT BANKS ON MONDAY HIGHLY PROBABLE. CBI NEVER SLEEPS GET YOUR LIMO READY. RATES SHOULD SHOW ANY HOUR."

11-18-2011  Guru PurpleHelmet300   Got a really great call...I can tell you all that what everyone is saying about high rate and date is absolutely TRUE! ...should show by Sunday / Monday! heard lots of confirmations today too! Nice high rate and coming Sun/Mon! 

11-18-2011  Guru Poppy3   there is good information we have great progress...i am saying things are sounding good like sunday, monday good...but give us the time to get facts.

11-18-2011  Guru Freeway Bill    Those confirmations were about in-country cashins by contractors. This information was fabulous to hear and know they were confirmed.   The rate for in country Iraq and the rate we will be seeing will be two different rates. The fact that they are indeed cashing out in Iraq (contractors) is a huge indicator that we are in the moment. Possibly within a few hours from seeing our own rate and hearing our own cashin stories!   the rollercoaster brakes are on and we are coming to the end of this journey..

11-18-2011  Guru TonyTNT   We can't actually call the RV until it happens, but given the info we have today, this is where we're at. I kind of say the proof is in the pudding. IT’S A GREAT DAY Still people saying this afternoon we may see the RV. I'm hoping they're right. Know some a little more involved who say Sunday. We're going have a different rate than Iraq. Going try to figure out what their rate is...  At some point today we will have a verified rate and we will figure out how ours will match up---it will be less...SOME PEOPLE WERE JUST CALLED AND THIS MAY BE AN EXCITING AFTERNOON AFTER ALL...THIS WILL MAYBE TODAY AND NOW I CAN CONFIRM THIS WILL BE BEFORE MONDAY MORNING IF NOT THIS AFTERNOON – I CAN CONFIRM THAT AND MONDAY WILL BE A GREAT DAY FOR US ALL...ENJOY THIS WEEKEND WHETHER IT RV’S TODAY OR SUNDAY AS WE ARE THERE.

11-18-2011  Guru Bear5642   THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING. FIRST AND FOREMOST "O" HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS RV PERIOD. I KNOW WHEN WE TAKE A PLANE TRIP WE HAVE THE USUAL GET TICKETS, GO TO AIRPORT, GET BOARDING PASSES, CHECK IN BAGGAGE AND BOARD THE PLANE - BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PREPARATIONS BEFORE WE EVER GET TO THE AIRPORT. THE PLANE MUST BE FULLY INSPECTED, FLIGHT CREW BRIEFED, TOWER NOTIFIED, FUELED, EVERYONE ON BOARD AND THE TAXIED AND THEN FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELTS.  LADIES AND GENTLEMAN WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE "FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELTS" NOTICE. THIS BABY IS TAKING OFF 

11-18-2011  Guru Jonnywg    SOMETHING IS HAPPENING – THIS IS LATE BREAKING – MORE INTEL IS COMING. BANKS REPORTING TODAY AT 2 PM AND 4 PM. THE IMF CAN HOLD BACK CASHING IN FOR 3 DAYS ONCE THE RV HAS BEEN RELEASED. NO RATES OTHER THAN TONY’S $3.75 IN IRAQ. PLEASE NOTE THAT IRAQ IS NOW A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY AND THE IQD IS ABOUT TO BE THE STRONGEST CURRENCY IN THE WORLD... HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT IN IRAQ WAS MADE IN THE MOSQUES BETWEEN PRAYERS THIS MORNING.

11-18-2011  Guru TonyTNT   great news told to me that this was done in Iraq and this is great...they read this info all morning long to their people: [1. Iraq is now a sovereign nation.  2.  Iraq's military is now fully in charge of their country.  3.  Iraq is now a secure country and no longer has to worry.  4.  The IQD along with many other currencies were just revalued and the IQD is now the strongest currency in the world.]...…Not going be, IS NOW the strongest currency.  Also have not one, not 2, 3, but 7 separate confirmations that Iraqis were paid in RV'd dinar today. The banks are closed. They went to their accounts, looked at their numbers, significantly different from what they've been getting. They are excited over there.  SOME FOLKS say it may happen today – it is NOT scheduled for today, again its not scheduled for today, they could do it…. but it is scheduled for the very near future being MONDAY...Ministers will be formal on Sunday along with HCL. All votes have been taken, all formalized on Sunday...our time is coming – the RATE whether USD is GBP is CONSIDERABLY over $3 dollars.

11-18-2011  Guru Gary     Announcements were made in the Mosques this morning in Iraq, confirmed, they listed 4 different points:  1. Iraq is now a sovereign nation.  2.  Iraq's military is now fully in charge of their country.  3.  Iraq is now a secure country and no longer has to worry.  4.  The IQD along with many other currencies were just revalued and the IQD is now the strongest currency in the world.

11-18-2011  Guru Bulldog75   THE CAKE IS ABOUT TO COME OUT OF THE OVEN. AND IS BAKING AT 4.40+...MANY SOURCES CONFIRM CONTRACTOR PAYMENTS ARE DONE, UST AND CBI RATES COMING OUT OF THE OVEN MUY PRONTO NOW. CASH REGISTERS WILL RING ON MONDAY

11-18-2011  Guru Poppy3  this will be a wonderful thanksgiving!!   we have wondered throught this thing for years waiting for the end of the war then waiting for an election , then waiting for them to declare a winner , then waiting for the cabinet to be appointed , then ministers , then chapter7 , then a multitude of laws, etc ,etc and now all is finished politically and confirmed. GUYS the end is upon us and we are just days away from cashing in.  I know this in my heart and believe with all the information circling from washington to bagdad and china and russia all indicating they are ready and willing this time to open the doors and pour the blessing out so the people of IRAQ can start & restart their lives.

11-18-2011  Guru Jonnywg   we now have several confirmations of cashins in iraq dubai...the fact CHINA IRAQ AND THE IMF is upset helps....they are upset over delays...we are diligently working the system and will report...we like today... no rate

11-18-2011  Newshound Guru Joey   All the news articles sounds like something good is about to happen...Truly amazing all of these articles...it goes in phases...Govt...HCL...Contracts...bilateral relations...Trade..CBI...Shabibi and what is happening at the banks...That Round Table Discussion is so important...would love to know who is involved in those Round Table Discussions...makes you wonder who is part of that....as Vic said the other night probably Christine Lagarde IMF...John Lipski...World Bank, Hillary, China...talking about what really needs to be done with the currency...you can just hear in articles how detailed and involved all of the meetings are lately...absolutely amazing including how Saleh (CBI) has never changed his terminology he has always said the restructuring of the currency and the deletion of the zeroes is a policy that is STRATEGIC..."STRATEGIC PLATFORM TO THE TOTAL MONETARY POLICY OF THE CBI"...Monetary mass will be reduced VERY SOON thru the issuance of NEW CURRENCY...this action is an important part of the reform process...Strategic Platform...VERY SOON GUYS, FEELING GOOD.....WE ALL SHOULD BE 

11-18-2011  Guru BWM   CBI can update at any time... it's a manual event...the CBI has opened on a saturday... but if you think about it... it's not necessary...they won't be trading currency...their currency will just have "more value".

11-18-2011  Guru Bulldog75    SHAKE N BAKE TIME: WAHOO HOO TEMPERATURE IS RISIN'. HIGHER AND HIGHER. LANDING GEARS ARE DOWN. WE ARE READY TO RUMBLE. WATCH CBI NOW TODAYWE ARE GOOD TO GO. MAKE ALL FINAL SERIOUS PREPARATIONS...WE ARE SAFE, SECURE AND KNOWING OUR TIME HAS COME. 

11-18-2011  Guru Jonnywg   NEWS FLASH:   just received information and confirmation of ONE CONTRACTOR that was paid yesterday in iraq in RV'D dollars... not enough yet so we are seeking multiple verifications and will report all day.

11-18-2011  Guru BGG   I did hear last nite from a very interesting source that we would be at the bank today...he was adamant (and he has MEGA "skin in the game") - however, while it would be possible based on other info I got in yesterday...I think today would be just a "pinch" early I do get indications that everything that needed done politically is finalized - it may take a little bit to get the technicalities moved along. For instance, once Parliament is done voting the "final measures" (which is purpored to already have happened) how long will it take the CBI to give the "go-ahead" to the BIS and so on and so on...We could have a few more days yet - but not long, I don't think

11-18-2011  Guru Jonnywg   we are still in the game. By that i mean expect it at any instance. we have been striving to verify the happenings. What we know is that 133 countries are still showing 0.0000 at the UST bankscreens...th us no or limited trading. This is unprecidented. We are trying to and will have answers on the following today: Confirmation that employees cashed in with RV'd Dinar in Iraq, Confirmation that contractors Cashed in with RV'd Dinar, Confirmation that UST has released, Confirmation USA has released and will not interfere and /or impede Revaluation...I am still expecting it any time.
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Post by RamblerNash on Thu Apr 27, 2017 5:04 pm

@Light Being wrote:That's not what I read. What I read here is anger and no real opinions as to why you believe these gurus are wrong. Sure you point to someone else's opinions once in a while, bit it is still mostly coming from anger. And that friend is a culinary recipe for the disaster of further separation.
HUH???

Why the gurus are wrong? Have you not read the comments below the posts where many members have explained it? Or are you here to pick on Ss?
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Post by Jayzze on Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:56 pm

not only can you get rich on the dinar but try s and h green stamps it might be worth more
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Post by Light Being on Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:19 pm

@RamblerNash wrote:
@Light Being wrote:That's not what I read. What I read here is anger and no real opinions as to why you believe these gurus are wrong. Sure you point to someone else's opinions once in a while, bit it is still mostly coming from anger. And that friend is a culinary recipe for the disaster of further separation.
HUH???

Why the gurus are wrong? Have you not read the comments below the posts where many members have explained it? Or are you here to pick on Ss?
No, I am not here to pick on anyone, I just see this site being no better than any guru site. I guess we have dinar Gurus and then we have Dinar Hunter Gurus. I remember when this site used to be a pretty pleasant site to go to back when MM Liz, Turbo56, Ponee, AJ Anderson and others were running it. Back after Okie Oilman left, which was a huge relief. But now, its full of anger!

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Post by Ssmith on Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:33 pm

You may be confusing ANGER with PASSION.
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Post by Light Being on Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:04 pm

@Ssmith wrote:You may be confusing ANGER with PASSION.
When you start calling your members names who come here with Love in their hearts and that is your passion, then I would say to you, that is some sort of passion that I equate to anger. Now, if you want to call these Gurus you so passionately hunt down and call frauds, I am with you on that!

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Post by Ssmith on Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:06 pm

Who in the hell did I call a name????
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Post by Light Being on Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:28 pm

@Ssmith wrote:Who in the hell did I call a name????
It was a general term for the way these Admin head hunters are treating me. Here is just one quote from down the rabbit hole:

I've never laughed so hard in my life f@cking with idiots like u 
NO ANGER AT ALL SNOWFLAKE.
Maybe I believe that the gurus are wrong because they are still saying the same exact thing they said 6yrs ago. When u don't know what you're talking about please don't say anything Star Light

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Post by Ssmith on Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:32 pm

Perhaps you ought to take a trip down the Rabbit Hole and work through your issues with them?

Although they seem rather jovial and not angry.  Could it be that you're too sensitive?
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Post by Ponee on Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:38 pm

The great thing about this forum is you can choose your friends and foes.   I always recommend when there are members posts and PM's you do not wish to see, you can go  to profile  and  go to the friends and  foes option  and add people you don't want to interact with,  to the foes list and you will not have any contact from them or see their posts. 


Also, Down the Rabbit Hole, is a member, not an Admin. 

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Post by Ssmith on Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:42 pm

:throb: :juggle:  :throb:
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Post by Scotchie on Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:55 pm

If you parents, brother, child, best friend invested all their monies in this get rich quick scheme of the dinar, dong, rupiah and zim, you might be able to determine the difference between anger and passion.  A twice convicted con artist has been steering the ship, and it is headed for an iceberg.  All the second officers, the gurus and intel providers are blind and reach into the passengers pockets before the ship goes down.  There are no life preservers.

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Post by Light Being on Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:10 pm

@Scotchie wrote:If you parents, brother, child, best friend invested all their monies in this get rich quick scheme of the dinar, dong, rupiah and zim, you might be able to determine the difference between anger and passion.  A twice convicted con artist has been steering the ship, and it is headed for an iceberg.  All the second officers, the gurus and intel providers are blind and reach into the passengers pockets before the ship goes down.  There are no life preservers.
I am certainly happy that twice convicted con artist was busted, right along with all the dinar sellers who were coning unsuspected buyers of dinar and dong reserves, who could not back what they said they had. One good thing happened from all this, I certainly never bought in this game.


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Post by Light Being on Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:14 pm

@Ponee wrote:The great thing about this forum is you can choose your friends and foes.   I always recommend when there are members posts and PM's you do not wish to see, you can go  to profile  and  go to the friends and  foes option  and add people you don't want to interact with,  to the foes list and you will not have any contact from them or see their posts. 


Also, Down the Rabbit Hole, is a member, not an Admin. 
No matter how I am treated they are always a friend, as names never bother me. When you understand how the system works you find even ordinary people operate the very same way as it and it is so subtle they do not even know it.

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