A Thinking Dinarian

by **Ssmith** Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:24 am

Hello Everyone,

Just to confirm that you can still buy ZIM on Ebay from sellers. Have not checked other currencies such as IQD, VND etc.

From memory, I believe we were previously informed from certain Intel Providers that sellers would be given strict orders from NPTB channels, to immediately stop selling the currencies that we are exchanging, on or just before, the time of the release of the 800#'s.

If that is true, we should see these sellers gagged or restricted VERY shortly. Overnight, or tomorrow during the day?

However, if the sellers continue to be allowed to sell, we can deduce that perhaps the release will not happen (just yet), until that is changed.

Does anyone else remember this information given to us about the selling being stopped before the release?

Do I have it correct?

Just looking for another indicator that is going to GO

Yours

Anonymous

by **Ponee** Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:33 am

A Thinking Dinarian--

An Oxymoron

by **Ssmith** Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:11 am

Ponee wrote:A Thinking Dinarian--

An Oxymoron

But maybe there is hope..... for a few:

OK, so does everyone here know this? Most here are not acting like it, instead we keep hearing currency exchanges will "promote abundance".

1. When everyone is a multimillionaire, prices rise, and internationally, currencies are devalued, so there really is no net "wealth effect".

2. The shock of this degree of inflation/devaluation is Weimar Republic on steroids. Imagine: salaries would become meaningless unless adjusted continuously. Food and other goods will have LED readouts that increase the price every few seconds. People will be paid twice a day so they can try to use their pay to buy something before prices rise again.

3. The increase of currency or money (gold) does not increase food or other production until there is an increase in capital and people go to work to produce more. The standard of living is directly proportionate to capital. Thus, pushing money into "relief" (awarding money to individuals for not working, but instead just for being "needy") is counterproductive because it diminishes capital.

4. The idea of a sovereign rate (devoting the vast majority of helicopter-dropped wealth to "humanitarian projects" rather than profit-driven projects) would virtually destroy the world because when the money runs out there will be no demand to sustain the jobs created.

If there are any non-shills on this channel, please respond to this ELEPHANT.

by **RamblerNash** Thu Nov 24, 2016 4:31 am

Ssmith wrote:
Ponee wrote:A Thinking Dinarian--

An Oxymoron

But maybe there is hope..... for a few:

OK, so does everyone here know this? Most here are not acting like it, instead we keep hearing currency exchanges will "promote abundance".

1. When everyone is a multimillionaire, prices rise, and internationally, currencies are devalued, so there really is no net "wealth effect".

2. The shock of this degree of inflation/devaluation is Weimar Republic on steroids. Imagine: salaries would become meaningless unless adjusted continuously. Food and other goods will have LED readouts that increase the price every few seconds. People will be paid twice a day so they can try to use their pay to buy something before prices rise again.

3. The increase of currency or money (gold) does not increase food or other production until there is an increase in capital and people go to work to produce more. The standard of living is directly proportionate to capital. Thus, pushing money into "relief" (awarding money to individuals for not working, but instead just for being "needy") is counterproductive because it diminishes capital.

4. The idea of a sovereign rate (devoting the vast majority of helicopter-dropped wealth to "humanitarian projects" rather than profit-driven projects) would virtually destroy the world because when the money runs out there will be no demand to sustain the jobs created.

If there are any non-shills on this channel, please respond to this ELEPHANT.

No takers???

by Red Panda Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:18 pm

Ssmith wrote:OK, so does everyone here know this? Most here are not acting like it, instead we keep hearing currency exchanges will "promote abundance".

Yes, abundance is when there is more than enough for everybody. If that were possible right now, why do we need an exchange? It is primarily about who holds the wealth, not how much there is.

Ssmith wrote:1. When everyone is a multimillionaire, prices rise, and internationally, currencies are devalued, so there really is no net "wealth effect".

If the currency exchanges were to make everyone a multimillionaire, I would agree, but they won't. There might be enough people to cause a temporary disturbance, but it would slowly fade as people spent the money.

Ssmith wrote:3. The increase of currency or money (gold) does not increase food or other production until there is an increase in capital and people go to work to produce more. The standard of living is directly proportionate to capital. Thus, pushing money into "relief" (awarding money to individuals for not working, but instead just for being "needy") is counterproductive because it diminishes capital.

Yes, the standard of living is related to production, but also to distribution. We have more food than we need, but also hungry people. The standard of living is skewed. Abundance for some and lack for others. Pouring money into food banks may be a temporary solution, but the problem is not supply, it is distribution.

Ssmith wrote:4. The idea of a sovereign rate (devoting the vast majority of helicopter-dropped wealth to "humanitarian projects" rather than profit-driven projects) would virtually destroy the world because when the money runs out there will be no demand to sustain the jobs created.

Good point. Even if money were channeled into humanitarian projects, there has to be a will to sustain them, along with a circulation of money. Right now there is little will and circulation. A temporary infusion of money will not address the problem, which is the values of the people in this world. If the values of people changed overnight, the world would be a very different place in a very short time.

There are billionaires who are spending their fortunes on things like rockets and settlements on Mars. Perhaps they are helping people on earth AND working on going to Mars, but it seems to me that more work needs to be done to relieve suffering on Earth before serious amounts of resources are directed towards colonizing other planets.

Something to ponder:

Many of the Dinarians have humanitarian goals and projects, but little money. The people who have money are not rushing out to fund all those who have humanitarian goals and projects. Why is that?

For those that want to use their money to make money, many of these projects are simply charity. Unless the folks with money have a personal connection to the cause they will look elsewhere for projects that have a good chance of making money. The projects that make money tend to be aligned with what society values, and that may or may not have a beneficial effect on society at large.

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