"Yosef and Anonymity" - Yet More Koolaid Drinkers Thinking They know WTF They are Talking About

"Yosef and Anonymity" - Mon. PM WSOMN Thoughts

3/28/2016 03:33:00 PM  Thoughts, WSOMN  
UPDATED AS OF 6:32 PM ET, more replies added.


 WSOMN 

stargazer:
In my book, Yusef (or what ever the way he writes his name) is a wonderful man with lots of knowledge. He is a Light Worker. He has help many in the past and will continue to do so. I think it is an honor to have him with us.

He is guiding us to the RV and more

Grandma:
I personally feel that anyone that bashes someone else should be ashamed. If you don't have nice things to say be quiet. That's what I was always taught. Cause it will come back around and bite you in the a**.

The old saying what goes around will come back around. True story! We are not here to bash people. Take it for what it is worth, don't like it go somewhere else like many of our members have done.

ADMINBILL:
WHOEVER THIS PERSON IS HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE FOUND. THOSE INVOLVED WITHIN THE CHINESE GROUP HERE AS THEIR MOUTH PIECE HAVE BEEN ASKED BY THE CHINESE TO FIND OUT WHO HE TALKING TO AND ON WHAT LEVEL BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. THE PHONE HE USES IS A THROW AWAY PHONE WHICH ALWAYS MAKES ME WONDER. LAST WEEK I ASKED HIM TO PROVIDE THE BASIC DETAILS OF WHERE HE IS GETTING HIS INFORMATION AT THE REQUEST OF THE CHINESE WHICH HE REFUSED. HE MAY OR MAY NOT BE WHO HE CLAIMS TO BE BUT IN THIS DAY AND AGE AS SOON AS SOMEONE WRAPS THEMSELVES IN THE VEIL OF SPIRITUALITY THE MORE SUSPICIOUS I BECOME OF THEIR INTENT. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS CONNECTED TO MONEY

Grateful2Jesus:
Like I was saying about eating off of someone else's plate, IKO and all other intel providers are going to be given false information because they are doing their best to vet and make sure that they don't look like fools, but that does not mean that it will not happen. Sowing discord among the brethren is one of Satan's most divisive tool, and if the base of any structure or organization is not solid, then the enemy will be able to slow down, or stop any movement.

We are all here for a reason, and if it is just for money, then you will be a easier target for those that don't want us to have a seat at the table, like a dog just wants to throw us a bone or two. I am NOT trying to insite a riot, but I am just saying we all need to put our trust in the only One that really has the power to push the button, and His name is Jesus.

Read Proverbs chapter 6.

So take your complaints to Jesus, because He knows all of our needs and desires, and He will allow us to receive our blessing when He takes care of the bad guy's.

Matthew 11: 28-30.

Have a blessed day.

Respectfully,

In the name of His Majesty Jesus our Christ.

vanman:
ISAIAH 8:20 SAYS "TO THE LAW AND TO THE TESTIMONY! IF THEY DO NOT SPEAK ACCORDING TO THIS WORD, IT IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM."

I REMEMBER TERRY K AND HOW HE KEPT PUSHING THE RESET AND I JUST KNEW HE HAD THE WRONG AGENDA -THAT

HE WAS UP TO NO GOOD, EVEN WHEN MANY WERE BUYING HIS MESSAGE. NOW WE KNOW WHAT HE WAS ALL ABOUT.

THE MAJORITY OF US NOW ON THE OTHER HAND WOULD AGREE THAT YOSEF NOT ONLY GAVE WHAT INFO HE WAS

GIVEN, BUT HE HAD A MUCH GREATER MESSAGE WHICH HAD GREAT LIGHT. IT WAS A HUMBLE, A SERVING, AND A

SPIRITUAL MESSAGE. THIS WAS USING OUR NEW WEALTH TO HELP OTHERS. TO PAY IT FORWARD. NOW DOES THAT

SOUND LIKE SOMEONE WHO HAS AN EVIL AGENDA? I BELIEVE GIVEN A CHANCE TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH HIS

INTEL, THAT WE WOULD HAVE A BETTER IDEA WHAT IS GOING ON. HE IS READING ALL THE NEGATIVITY ABOUT HIM

AND PROBABLY DOESN'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED OR HELP US ANY MORE. "DON'T SMACK THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU"

THANK YOU YOUSEF AND GOD BLESS, RON G

ADMINBILL:
MAN, THIS THREAD MAY GET INTENSE. THE PROCESS OF THE GCR AND RV ARE MAN MADE AND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT HAS BEEN MAN MADE. IF THE LORD WAS IN CONTROL IT WOULD ALREADY HAVE HAPPENED IN MY OPINION. HE WAS, AFTER ALL, NOT ALL THAT THRILLED WITH THE MONEY CHANGERS IN THE TEMPLE. WE ARE BLESSED TO BE A PART OF IT. WE WERE LED TO THIS POINT BY HIM FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR FAMILY, FRIENDS AND THE WORLD AS A WHOLE. BUT THE ACTUALLY PROCESS HAS BEEN IN THE HANDS OF MEN AND WOMEN WHO USE THEIR FREE AGENCY, WHICH MEANS THEIR EDUCATION, THEIR RELIGIOUS BACKGROUND, THEIR FAMILY BACKGROUND AND THEIR CONNECTIONS IN BUSINESS TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

twoguns336:
Agreed. Humans most always kill the messengers.

ADMINBILL:
SO MY GOOD FRIENDS YOU FEEL PERFECTLY SAFE BASING YOUR FUTURE ON A SIGNAL PERSON'S INFORMATION THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW BECAUSE THEIR MESSAGE RESONANTS WITH YOUR OWN PERSONAL VIEWS. IS THAT RIGHT. AS TONY WOULD SAY. NOW WHO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TOO?

sparke:
Ditto!!! Admin Bill, Ditto!!!

To many people in the chatroom try to force their opinions, beliefs, whatever they may be on others and basically ... lets keep this simple people.

We all got in this RV/GCR the for financial gain. I don't need to know what you intend to do with it and you don't need to know what I intend to do with it.

We do need to be patient with the process, however long it may be!

SilverFox:
The truth is all anyone of us wants.

Yosef preached truth & love!

Tis the season...

twoguns336:
Lots to discern for sure. People used to hang on every word of OkieOilman and Bulldog75. Then Tony and others. You said yourself that this was in the hands of humans....and we all fall short of the Grace of God.... So we listen, we try to understand. That's all.....
I am not a rock thrower....
Like Fox Muldaur (XFiles)....."I want to believe..."

crushr13:
My bottom line is that in a group like this, some info sources are going to be liked, and some not liked. Some will be greatly agreed with, and some not so much. Some will come with good info and some will have made up info. We will not know what is what until all is completed. And we will still have decisions to make on what we will do based on that information, good and bad.

What I try to do is listen to the info. See what makes sense and what does not. And if it does not, is it possible or feasible? And temper that to the information. I try to give everyone respect, if only outwardly. And if I disagree with some of the info, I try to respectfully challenge the information, not the provider (they will get theirs if it is all false, anyway). Or I respectfully agree to disagree.

Those that provide good information will be cheered, especially once all of this comes to pass. And those that are providing information they are making up or are providing as disinformation, or whatever, will get theirs, as karma usually gets them in the end.

So, if I may suggest, be respectful to info providers, and, if needed, agree to disagree. Then we get more information. And the good information will build and correct any minor flaws, as any info flowing from people tends to have. And the bad information will hopefully become more visible and clear. And we can then keep a clear and rational head, with which to make good financial decisions for our future. (Thanks for the chance to share my thoughts on this.)

Imperium:
Take nothing personally.

Mel Money:
I hate when intel in cloaked in spirituality and faith. I believe in God but it's not just about that. Why don't we know more about Yosef? I like parts of his message but it still have a tinge of something I can't put my finger on.

Grateful2Jesus:
Mel Money, as twoguns has said, it is all about anonymity. I don't know anyone but Tony Renfrow, and Ray Renfrow that has given their full real name, address, and phone #s on a open conference call, or chats sites, do you?

I am not defending Yosef, because he is a grown man, it is almost like the blind man that Jesus healed, were asked by the Pharasees who healed your son, but his parents did not want to say that it was Jesus that healed their son, because they did not want to be put out of the Synagogue.

We are instructed in Ephesians chapter 6:10-21 to put on the whole armor of God, so that we can speak boldly as we ought to speak. The opposition will come when we choose to speak truth, or lies: I just want to make sure that I am speaking the truth.

I am sort of responsible for over 100 people that I brought into this mess, and have like many of you, have lost friends, and a so called reputation with family, because I wanted to help them more than they really wanted help, because I am a Christian first, and 2nd a believer in the gcr. So many will be left behind, in more ways than one, but when the 800 #s come out, I will be using discernment on who to contact. It will trickle down, that will be the difference between the contract, market, and international rates. As for them going to heaven, well let's say, that's NOT MY CALL.

Everyone have spiritually prosperous future.

Respectfully,

Grateful2Jesus

Skysister23:
Yosef told us in the very first call he could not give a lot of his information because of the clients he represented. Doing so would jeopardize those relationships and the NDA's he had signed. He gave some background that he had worked in the financial realm for I think he said 20 or 30 years. He said he'd only been in the currency I think he said 10 years, and he can not speak to any platform information because of these relationships.

I feel he was more interested in saving souls with this money than in making money and his messages were directed more in that way.

He also stated he was asked to come forth at this time near the end to help people understand the history of this blessing. He said he's been blessed to meet some of the Chinese elders and has studied and learned their history over many years. He has never said to my knowledge who asked him to come forward but Imo it was the Chinese elders/Wells Fargo. This is me only putting pieces together and I could be totally wrong. Somewhere I read he is a friend of Robert on Gerry's call. Robert is in the banking business, (I think WF) Robert knows about platforms. Yosef can't discuss platforms, seems to know extensive history etc on Chinese elders, WF exchange and banking procedures, is very spiritual, comforting and has a message of peace and love.

I for one loved when came on any call. His perspective was always you were brought to this blessing because you had the right heart and mind to do what needed to be done for the good of the world. He professed to not need a lot but did feel everyone should go for as much as you could because the more you had the more you could do. Don't ask for more than you can mentally, emotionally handle. Don't sell your soul for the money but don't be afraid to ask for more than what you think you need to carry out your goals. He never spoke from a place of fear but always from a place of love.

Imo that is not someone who wanted to lead us astray. Like anything, familiarity breeds contempt. The more we heard from him the more we wanted to know about him. When he continued to respect his own privacy and that of those he represented we began to discredit him. I think this is a great disservice that we do. When this RV happens and we want to remain private so our lives stay normal will we face the same thing. No because we aren't putting ourselves out there in that position. Yosef chose to help us as did Tony, Ray, Bruce, Iko, Martha, Wolfy etc and look at what they have all gone through. I respect Yousef, his privacy and his message, as I do the other Intel providers. I'm grateful for their willingness to be a target while they bring us through this journey. I'm grateful that Yousef helped to ground me, to remind me not to get caught up in the craziness of the ride, but to remember why I chose to walk this path and who i want to help.

artesano:
Well said Skysister. We're all in this ride together even those in the back of the bus causing occasional discord.

I enjoy taking a deep breath and envision the good that we will do.

TERP1:
Admin Bill I don't post often but I am in total agreement with all your points well said!!!


http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com

That does not sound like ADMIN BILL at all, MPD?

I discern by the truth;
Matt.7:15,Beware of false prophets,which come to you in sheep's clothing,inwardly they are ravenous wolves.
I discern by there fruit;
2 Timothy 3:1
But know this,that in the last days perilous times will come. For men will be lovers of themselves,
LOVERS OF MONEY,BOASTERS,PROUD,blasphemous,disobedient to parents,unthankful,unholy,unloving,unforgiving,slandered,WITHOUT SELF_CONTROL,brutal,DESPISERS OF GOOD,traitors,headstrong,HAUGHTY,LOVERS of PLEASURES rather than Lovers of God,HAVING A FORM OF GODLINESS BUT DENYING ITS POWER!
AND FROM SUCH PEOPLE TURN AWAY.
Yes this is how the world judges;
Isaiah 5;20
Wow unto them that call evil good, and good evil who put DARKNESS for LIGHT and LIGHT for DARKNESS.
So as for Yosef and the rest you decide,I have already made a discernment, when someone comes in preaching a word from demons & doctrines of demons,it obvious, it's not the King James,in another word it's not Jesus.
If you truly want to help Yosef ,pray for him,and for yourself,REPENT,for the KINGDOM OF YAHWEH is nigh!
Sincerely blessings Charles

i think its about time to start banning these clowns. they serve know real purpose then giving false hopes to people who wear rose  colored glasses

It's just not the gurus it is the whole network,from the dealers to the websites,it's all about the money,yes if the websites would be shut down ,and the dealers too,innocent people would not loose anymore than they have already, I'm not a nay sayer ,I've been in this for years,I was ,past tense, a con artist myself, I see the things being said very clearly as what I would have said in my evil days to people to con them out of their money,but praise to GOD & His Son I'm born again. I was conned by a false prophet myself when.I started buying dinar,I take full responsibility of my foolish actions.
Sincerely blessings Charles

chaz its not only about the con. no one put a gun to there head and said buy dinar. this is an investment and most  people heard big money did no research and  bought basicly do to greed and making a fast buck.many  kept buying even though they had no money for food or car and house payments.i hate to say it but they did this to themselves. 14 years ago i bought my dinars after researching it to be very risky but i bought it and neveragain any more

Nope no one had to,it's how it is presented,most people are trusting people that's the problem, they trust the con because he always sounds like he knows what he's talking about,the theory how does not change they get your trust, your confidence first,look at what they say on these sites,read what the people write,the investors ,.after the Intel is delivered,they praise the guru,even though there flat out lying in such a way to keep your confidence high,your hope is important in a scam.
I've worked with sheriff departments,& other agencies on craigslist & Facebook scams,it's the same ole same ole.
What I have seen in this particular scam CALLED THE RV is all of the people involved in this,as in the Intel part are in the most part lies,they use articles to twist it just enough to sound good , enough to believe it's RV related.
There has not been one honest person in this phenomenon called the RV that I have found yet,the reason why? There's no money in the truth.
Sincerely blessings Charles

chaz you are 100 per cent correct and thats the problem

"My Thoughts about Yosef" - Anonymous Guest Post

3/28/2016 06:34:00 PM  Emailed, Thoughts  
Emailed to Dinar Chronicles:

I just wanted to share with you my thoughts about Yosef. I have been in the dinar world for 10 years and have followed it very closely for the entire time. Over this time period I have seen a lot and can give a little insight for people who are new. Over the past 10 years I have seen people like Yosef come out of nowhere.


They usually come in two’s or three’s, meaning they have people who can vouch for them, etc. They usually last for a few months with intel from high sources that no one can seem to verify. It is usually outrageous intel that people will fall for. I have to be honest when he first showed up on the WSOMN call he had meet convinced but I was not able to verify any of his intel, so I started to question it.


He used religion and God to gain the trust of the people and put out channeling messages that backed up what he shared. He seems to know a lot about military positioning, which I find odd, but if he is being used to distract then he would have access to that type of information. I still do not have sources who can confirm the 800 numbers. That is not to say it is not true but I just can’t seem to verify it with anyone.


To me it seems a very good method to get some of masses paid, with background checks, and NDA’s. From what I can tell this is a purchase of currencies and not technically an exchange. The exchange will happen after the GCR. I just wanted to share this with people because I hate to see so many people mislead and have a false hope.


These currencies should not be our plan A, EVER. I know people are suffering, most of us are struggling just to make ends meet but please do not fall for exaggerated intel that only causes a false hope. Stay updated and keep open minds because how this pans out in the end may surprise many.

Anonymous

Thanks to: http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com

Why are you asking anyone,go to well Fargo yourself,ask them your self about the 800#, the NDA,why would the bank lie? I already asked several Wells Fargo banks not just in my area but across the country,I even ask corporate,& then asked the Board of directors,they have a website, phone numbers,email address,you can contact anyone of them,they will all say the same thing about the dinar,the RV,etc,
Do I need to say anymore,I think every body should call them,& get the truth,its that simple. Wells Fargo want mind at all to tell you the truth.I'll say one thing don't expect them to cash you out!
Sincerely blessings Charles

folks think about this everytime our so called experts give a date as it nears it gets pushed farther back so do notworry about what bank to go to. imho at this time in iraq where the goi  can not even decide on wentys or bk for lunch this is why the   gov is in shambles.in  do you see m still around and living in the palace there is a reason in fact the new name for the dinar should be called the great pretender