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Post by Ponee on Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:17 am

Tlar   This is another example of Maliki retarding Iraq.  This should have been dealt with 10 minutes after the sanctions came off of Iraq but parliament under the Maliki government was an ineffective body afraid of its own shadow. 
 
Maliki was stepping all over parliament's rights and usurped their powers, trashing the constitution time and time again.  As Maliki's goal was to become the next Saddam, unless he was interested in legislation giving him more power, almost no important legislation was being dealt with. 
 
Most MP's were either working for Maliki or they were afraid to stand up to him because it is well documented that Maliki was using the newly passed terrorists laws to silence anyone who did not fall in line.  It is my belief that Mutlag was originally a good guy until Maliki charged him with committing crimes of terror. 
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 He ran but soon the charges were dropped and he returned as an ineffective Vice-president after apologizing to Maliki.  His real crime, publically stating Maliki was trying to be a dictator to the press while Maliki was out of the country in the US.  When Maliki returned, the charges were brought within days. 
 
I am sure that was the turning point.  Maliki gave him a choice, you either support me and you will get rich in the process, or you remain exiled away from you family and country, or you will face prosecution if we catch you.  By nature, I think he is a good guy but weak. 
 
Hashemi, the other vice president under Maliki choose to flee after he was charged under the terrorist act.  Maliki tortured his body guards until they "confessed".   Hashimi stayed away unwilling to come back and be corrupted. 
 
The reason I am reiterating these facts is because today, Mutlag is being charged with corruption for stealing state monies.  His life is crap now and it is an unfair fact in my mind that it was coercion from Maliki and the fear for his very life that started him down this path. 
 
It does make you wonder just how many other poor souls over there that were forced through fear to be corrupt that Maliki then documented their crimes as an insurance policy on his own corruption.  tlar
              
Kimberley :   I'm with you hi-five,..... I had no idea this Law #30 existed...
But,  I'm confused......   If we put those restrictions on Iraq......  Wouldn't  'we'  be the ones to have to remove them??    And if so ...WHY for Gods sake haven't we ??

I agree with everything Tlar has said as well.....  It's the sadest thing,   that this evil man has been able to hurt a whole country......  while we stood and watched.....    I shudder to think of the men, women, and childfren that have died in prison  for NO reason,  while this AHole runs free......
 
Tlar:    Kimberly, Iraq is a sovereign nation.  Once Bremer set up the laws and oversaw the writing of their constitution, he ran the provisional government until the first elections, at which time the provisional government was turned over to the new PM. 
 
Once the sanctions were removed Iraq was free to change any law that had been set up by Bremer that was on their books including laws pertaining to the constitution itself.  During the Maliki era it was all about Maliki attempting to take complete control. 
 
No attention was given by the Maliki administration to anything but that.  The last thing a dictator ever wants to see is transparency   These kinds of laws were not important to him anymore than the currency going article VIII was. 
 
Transparency by its very nature allows for the international community being able to see what a country is doing in areas of banking and monetary policy which a dictator wishing to loot a country would never support.  This is the crooks (many in the SOL) are so vehemently fighting change. 
 
They have attempted to keep Iraq as closed as possible while trying to placate the international community, pretending to be trying to work with everybody to help Iraq progress toward an open society.
 
 Maliki's record is dismal showing he created the infighting with the Kurds and the Sunni's more as a diversion which could he then use as an excuse for delaying every thing that would help open up the economy to the international community.  The Kurds and the Sunni's are coming together under Abadi.
 
  Once the history of what has happened is found through transparency of the books, Maliki and his cronies and minions are finished.
 
During the Maliki era most ministries refused to even report their finances to parliament even when repeatedly asked.  All that should change with this new group of ministers.  Transparency should be complete.  I often wonder if it was the transparency issue that has held our investment at bay. 
 
If you can't see what happens to the money, why would you want to give them access to more especially when they were the number one on the list of corruption?  I also think the IMF has warned Iraq, either get rid of the corruption and become transparent or you will never be allowed to join the world economy. 
 
The few loans given recently (1.5 billion) from the WB is just enough to keep them going for another week or two but it does not solve the problem nor do I think it was intended to. 
 
It is my belief that the international community will jump in with loans and money if Abadi can GET RID OF THE CORRUPTION AND FULLY OPEN IRAQ'S BOOKS FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE MALIKI TOOK OFFICE. 
 
Until then I think the policy is just tossing Iraq a leaky life jacket, just enough to keep them afloat until they get their act together.  Its like feeding a starving gorilla a small bag peanuts, just enough to get him through another day, until he finally performs the trick you know he's capable of doing. 
 
Somebody or some entity has re-engineered this other than the Iraq's IMO.  I personally think it's a joint effort between the IMF, Britain and the US. The IMF is leading the change, the US is leading the security with Britain having interviewed and choosing the new government minister replacements. 
 
There is not enough time in a day for Abadi to have done this himself.  I also think Sadr has been asked to support Abadi in any way he can. 
 
Anyway I guess I'm just a conspiracy theorist at heart but this government takeover came together so fast, it had to have been thought out in advance especially with  all the players doing their part as a well- oiled, practiced team. 
 
Again sorry for any typos but it wouldn't be a tlar post if it did not have typos.  I don't proof read my own stuff because I always disagree with the content..  tlar
 
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Phillyman           Bremer still prohibits the export of Iraqi products and disrupts important contracts to ease economic crisis
  
Author: BS, MJ   Editor: BK, BS   02/03/2016 13:42   Long-Presse / Baghdad
 
Government officials confirmed that the CPA civil and former governor of Iraq, Paul Bremer decisions, banned the export of a number of industrial products and raw materials, wondering mounting criticism of the Iraqi economy being one-sided, while attributing specialists not to cancel these decisions, "unfair" yet to shift a lot of politicians traders.
 
Consultant Abadi: croaking on our economy being one - sided and suppress non - oil exports
 
He said the economic advisor to the Prime Minister, the appearance of Mohammed Saleh, in an interview to the (long-Presse), "The Alliance authority issued to Prevent the export of Iraqi goods out of the country in 2003, a decision is still valid," adding that "the decision to prevent Iraq from exporting dozens of Vehicle productivity as a result of concerns no longer exist today. "
 
Saleh added that "several Gulf countries asked to import gravel and cement from Iraq, but Bremer's decision to prevent that," returned to "the export of such material can help in the face of the current economic crisis."
 
Economic Adviser to the Prime Minister, relevant ministries, such as trade, industry and student and returned the need to "raise the issue and push for the abolition of Bremer's decision," stressing that "the abolition of those decisions need to enact a law by the House of Representatives for re-regulating exports and imports according to modern foundations encourage economic activity and axes export ".
 
He was surprised at the benefit, of "mounting criticism of the Iraqi economy as a unilateral dependence on oil, while other exports suppressed."
 
Darraji: hidden points you want to keep Bremer 's decisions to eliminate the Iraqi industry
 
For his part, Minister of Industry and Minerals, Mohammad Darraji, in an interview to the (long-Presse), "The subtle bodies works to keep the decisions Bremer and prevent Iraq from exporting to eliminate the Iraqi industry," noting that "called on the House of Representatives to review the decisions Bremer, also called Council of Ministers to prepare a draft law eliminates the economic decisions to the authority of the coalition. "
 
He accused al-Darraji, Bremer as "a mean hit the industry and turn Iraq into a market for the products of other countries," adding that "Iraq's production of cement for the year 2015 the past, reached 20 million tons, while the country's need 17 million only, and it is possible to export the surplus, but Bremer's decision hindered that". 
Specialists: Turning politicians to cancel decisions of traders blocked Bremer
 
He said the head of the Iraqi National Business Council, David Zayer, in an interview to the (long-Presse), "The manufacturers insist on the abolition of the decision Bremer No. 30 relating to financial management," noting that "the Council is working on it for more than two years, but it reached the road impasse with the government. "
 
Zayer said, that "the decisions Bremer restricted the private sector and he was prevented from exporting its products and raw materials," the surprising "not to cancel these decisions, despite what the injury caused to the Iraqi economy."
 
In turn, the economist said spokesman Antoine, in an interview to the (long-Presse), said that "many experts and economists recommended that ten years ago the need to cancel the CPA unfair to Iraqi industry" decisions, pointing out that such "recommendations fell on deaf ears by lawmakers as a result of lack of understanding of the exact meaning of the industry and the transformation of many politicians to traders profaned the Iraqi market. "
 
The First Deputy Chairman of the House of Representatives, Hamoudi called in (the 25th of February 2016), to review and cancel the decision of 30 for the year 2003 that has been applied in the absence of the legislative authority in 2003 where he was which prevent the production and export of any local products outside the country, "and urged to" activate decisions supporting agricultural and industrial products and in the possession of the State Council. "  LINK

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Post by Ponee on Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:55 am

Tlar   Article quote:  "High-level Iraqi sources revealed that Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi will announce the formation of the new cabinet soon, contrary to expectations, because of what the reason for the speed of delivery, to the upcoming visit of Iranian President Hassan Rowhani to Baghdad within the next ten days."  If Abadi  is smart he is framing the argument as "ARE YOU A PATRIOT OR ARE YOU NOT"?



Basically he is preaching that a vote against this change is a vote for corruption.  He is separating the corrupt from the herd.



He is building a consensus in parliament to lock down the SOL and mute their expected vote of NO.



He will get many SOL converts further weakening the SOL's power base.  



When he feels he has the votes, it will be presented to parliament.  It is my guess that with the speed at which this is being done, it won't take ten days. 



Sometime shortly, if he feels he has locked enough votes up, he will finish this.



Joubari will call a special session.  10 days is the outside number...but I think it will be done sooner than that.

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Post by Kevind53 on Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:02 am

I think you are clueless ...

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