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Post by RamblerNash on Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:38 pm

US Man Pleads Guilty to Illegal Dinar Sales

June 2, 2013

By John Lee.

An American man has pleaded guilty to operating an illegal business selling Iraqi dinar.

ArgusLeader reports that 60-year-old David Olmsted, also known as Dale Cooper Jr., received daily Federal Express packages with shrink-wrapped piles of dinar bills that had been smuggled out of Iraq and into Jordan.

The man, from South Dakota, was charged in federal court with operating an unlicensed money transmitting business, failure to report on exporting and importing monetary instruments, and unlawful structure of transactions to evade reporting requirements.

He remains free on bond until a sentencing hearing in September. He faces a maximum sentence of five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.


http://www.iraq-businessnews.com/2013/06/02/us-man-pleads-guilty-to-illegal-dinar-sales/
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Post by RamblerNash on Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:41 pm

South Dakota man pleads guilty to evading reporting requirements for importing foreign currency

05/21/2013
Will forfeit assets worth $1.2 million

RAPID CITY, S.D. – A western South Dakota man pleaded guilty in federal court Friday to evading federal reporting requirements for importing foreign currency. As part of a plea agreement he will forfeit currency and assets with an estimated value of $1.2 million.

This guilty plea resulted from an investigation by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), and the Internal Revenue Service’s Criminal Investigation (IRS CI), with the cooperation of U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and the Lead, S.D., Police Department.

David Olmsted, aka Dale Cooper Jr., 60, of Lead, S.D., pleaded guilty to evading reporting requirements for foreign currency transactions. According to court records, Olmsted will forfeit assets and currency worth at least $1.2 million, to include:

  • $290,000 in bank accounts,
  • about 449,000,000 Iraqi dinars (valued at $404,000), and
  • about $500,000 in vehicles, collectible coins, and additional substitute assets.


Olmsted may also be required to pay restitution to his financial investors.

According to court documents, Olmsted arranged for shipments of Iraqi dinars, the country’s currency, to be sent from the country of Jordan to the United States in split shipments in February 2011. He had previously been federally licensed to conduct foreign currency transactions in 2004 and 2006, but his license lapsed in 2008. Also, importing Iraqi currency is against federal law.

Federal law also requires the reporting of all transactions exceeding $10,000. Olmsted illegally split the shipments to avoid exceeding that amount, and to avoid having to report the shipments to the U.S. Department of Treasury. He always had these shipments sent to residential addresses, rather than those of his businesses.

In addition, he solicited investors to fund his activities in a convoluted financial scam, whereby he promised to convert U.S. currency to dinars by selling and buying jewelry and collectible coins. He promised significant returns on the exchange of dinars for dollars to his investors.

Olmsted funneled the illicit proceeds through business and personal bank accounts in South Dakota and Wyoming. He used the proceeds from his scam to finance Internet sales and purchases of foreign currency, jewelry and collectible coins via two businesses he previously owned: Black Hills President’s Park, and the Iraqi Dinar Financial Group, both based out of his home.

In addition to the forfeiture of his assets, the maximum penalty upon conviction is five years’ imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine. A pre-sentence investigation was ordered and a sentencing date was set for Sept. 13. Olmsted was released on bond pending sentencing.


https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/south-dakota-man-pleads-guilty-evading-reporting-requirements-importing-foreign
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Post by RamblerNash on Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:44 pm

Department of Justice

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District of South Dakota


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, September 20, 2013

Lead Man Sentenced For Unlawfully Structuring Financial Transactions United States Attorney Brendan V. Johnson announced that a Lead, South Dakota, man convicted of Unlawful Structure of Transactions to Evade Reporting Requirements was sentenced on September 13, 2013, by Chief Judge Jeffrey L. Viken, U.S. District Court. 

David Olmsted, a/k/a Dale Cooper, Jr., age 60, was sentenced to 3 years’ probation, and was ordered to pay $100 to the Federal Crime Victims Fund and $178,867.08 in restitution to individuals who purchased dinar from Olmsted but did not receive it.
 
In February 2011, Olmsted arranged for shipments of Iraqi Dinars, the country’s currency, to be sent from the country of Jordan to the United States in split shipments.  Olmsted was aware that every currency shipment had to reported if the value exceeded $10,000, so he split the shipments to avoid exceeding that amount and to avoid having to report the shipments to the Department of Treasury.  He pled guilty on May 21, 2013.

This case was investigated by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Homeland Security Investigations.  Assistant U.S. Attorney Sarah B. Collins prosecuted the case.


http://www.justice.gov/usao-sd/pr/lead-man-sentenced-unlawfully-structuring-financial-transactions
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Post by GypZ on Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:26 pm

Very informative i am sure there will more like him coming!
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Post by aksafeone on Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:39 pm

I would say this is the tip of the iceberg.  They need to also address the gurus that hawk the dinar for the dealers - especially the ones that pushed the reserve and law-away plans.  These criminals need to be found and prosecuted. 

Should the whoe dinar thing turn out to be an illegal scam organized by "licensed" dealers it would also be realistic to file on the governmental employees that "licensed" those people as accessories.  Fraud and bilking people out of their money is not a funny thing, nor is it to be tolerated.
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Post by sensibleplease on Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:32 pm

@RamblerNash wrote:
RAPID CITY, S.D. – A western South Dakota man pleaded guilty in federal court Friday to evading federal reporting requirements for importing foreign currency. As part of a plea agreement he will forfeit currency and assets with an estimated value of $1.2 million.
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David Olmsted, aka Dale Cooper Jr., 60, of Lead, S.D., pleaded guilty to evading reporting requirements for foreign currency transactions. ......

According to court documents, Olmsted arranged for shipments of Iraqi dinars, the country’s currency, to be sent from the country of Jordan to the United States in split shipments in February 2011. He had previously been federally licensed to conduct foreign currency transactions in 2004 and 2006, but his license lapsed in 2008. Also, importing Iraqi currency is against federal law.


I wonder why they didn't also prosecute him for illegally importing dinar since it is against the law.

Maybe he pled guilty and agve up his assets. I wonder what the penalty is for importing dinar?
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Post by Terbo56 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:39 am

If that is the case, then, how did the dealers that we bought from, get it for us to buy, without repercussions? Maybe they should be charged and fined severely, also-
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Post by Kevind53 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:57 am

@sensibleplease wrote:
@RamblerNash wrote:
RAPID CITY, S.D. – A western South Dakota man pleaded guilty in federal court Friday to evading federal reporting requirements for importing foreign currency. As part of a plea agreement he will forfeit currency and assets with an estimated value of $1.2 million.
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I wonder why they didn't also prosecute him for illegally importing dinar since it is against the law.

Maybe he pled guilty and agve up his assets. I wonder what the penalty is for importing dinar?

He did, it's right there in the first paragraph. Also, note that this is old news.

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Post by RamblerNash on Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:11 am

@Kevind53 wrote:
@sensibleplease wrote:
@RamblerNash wrote:
RAPID CITY, S.D. – A western South Dakota man pleaded guilty in federal court Friday to evading federal reporting requirements for importing foreign currency. As part of a plea agreement he will forfeit currency and assets with an estimated value of $1.2 million.
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I wonder why they didn't also prosecute him for illegally importing dinar since it is against the law.

Maybe he pled guilty and agve up his assets. I wonder what the penalty is for importing dinar?

He did, it's right there in the first paragraph. Also, note that this is old news.


It's not really that old, but it does show that the Feds have been going after people for awhile.

What do you think about the way this guy brought the Iraqi Dinar into this country?
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Post by aksafeone on Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:12 pm

Kevin the answer is that he got a plea bargain.  You know the good old way the lawyers get to take your money and you get off of some a many of the charges and give up your right to a fair and impartial trial?   Just another way to buy your way out of the trouble you got yourself into.  Not bad if you have the cash.  I know a couple of lawyers out there in So. Dak. and was informed that is what happened to this scumbag.  Oh, and he burned a few lawyers on his way to fame also.
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Post by dwm007 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:35 pm

@aksafeone wrote:I would say this is the tip of the iceberg.  They need to also address the gurus that hawk the dinar for the dealers - especially the ones that pushed the reserve and law-away plans.  These criminals need to be found and prosecuted. 

Should the whoe dinar thing turn out to be an illegal scam organized by "licensed" dealers it would also be realistic to file on the governmental employees that "licensed" those people as accessories.  Fraud and bilking people out of their money is not a funny thing, nor is it to be tolerated.


Actually they were licensed only as a Money Service and they were careful (by far most of them anyway) to NOT promote Dinar as an investment, they in fact specifically said it was not being sold as an investment if anyone should take the time to read everything they had to say. In that respect they have broken no laws, they made no claims as to investment returns nor future value -that's what the gurus are paid to do! That's what's been so frustrating about this thing, the dealers can sell Dinar legally and without liability as long as they don't sell it for investment purposes or make claims of future value. The gurus on the other hand can make all the absurd claims they like as long as they add a few carefully chosen "I believes" or the like and don't directly sell anything! Everyone knows the dealers and the gurus are one and the same, or at least working together, but proving it has so far been all but impossible.

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Post by dwm007 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:40 pm

@sensibleplease wrote:



I wonder why they didn't also prosecute him for illegally importing dinar since it is against the law.



But is it illegal to import Dinar according to U.S. law? I don't think here is anything that specifically prohibits importing any currency from any country that is not under sanctions prohibiting such, the real question is was it illegal to EXPORT Dinar according to IRAQI law? It's not likely that U.S. prosecutors would bring charges against someone for breaking IRAQ's law concerning the export of Dinar.

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Post by Terbo56 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 12:46 pm

I wonder if they'll come down on us because we bought smuggled IQD? I have receipts and dealer info I bought it from anyway, but that may not be enough, IF that happens- I think we all got screwed without a kiss in more ways than one-We'll just have to wait for the end result, whenever that is-
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Post by dwm007 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:09 pm

@terbo56 wrote:I wonder if they'll come down on us because we bought smuggled IQD? I have receipts and dealer info I bought it from anyway, but that may not be enough, IF that happens- I think we all got screwed without a kiss in more ways than one-We'll just have to wait for the end result, whenever that is-


I don't see how anyone who bought Dinar from dealers or privately from individuals could be held liable for illegal activity. Even if some unforeseen problem did develope it would be impossible to prosecute that many people and what would be the point of doing that anyway?

The bottom line is, don't worry in the least about getting in legal trouble for buying Dinars, as long as they weren't stolen from your neighbor, etc it just ain't gonna happen!


Now could they declare them smuggled and demand they be forfeited? Who knows, maybe they could but more than likely not and even if they did it wouldn't matter because if it reaches that point they would be worthless and a person couldn't even give them away anyhow.


Of course if it came down to that "I sold them to someone I didn't know", "My fishing boat sank and I had them with me" "I lost them playing Poker" or even "My dog ate them" etc.

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Post by Terbo56 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:14 pm

That's some funny shit, right there- { My dog ate the f'n things, etc}LMFAO 'They fell out of my shirt pocket and into the blender whilst I was processing a 'Smoothy'- US Man Pleads Guilty to Illegal Dinar Sales  (it was smuggled IQD) 3508649203 Indeed, but what about receiving stolen property or 'merchandise? We'd all be accessories after the fact? affraid shame :shock:
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Post by dwm007 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:47 pm

Just a guess but I think what will probably happen is that the scam will continue to die a slow agonizing death as more and more people come to realize that it is and always has been nothing but an elaborate internet scam. Eventually I think sales will dwindle to the point that dealers will no longer be interested and more of them will just close up shop and move on, just as some have already done! Sales prices have dropped to an all time low and buyers are getting scarcer all the time, it will likely reach a tipping point and the dealers will all disappear within a short time and along with them the gurus although I expect the gurus will be able to hold on for a while sustained by silly membership fees, donations by the hopelessly desperate and to a lessor extent by ad revenue but without dealer support I doubt they will last long.

If the above scenario does play out then likely there may not be many more prosecutions and the Dinar scam will finally fade off into the sunset leaving people holding stacks of "souvenirs" along with an education that unfortunately many will quickly forget.

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Post by Terbo56 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:58 pm

All the above stated can't be more true- DWM007, I like the way you think!
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Post by Kevind53 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:12 pm

BTW, this is from 2013, so not exactly current. Still an interesting discussion

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Post by RamblerNash on Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:15 pm

@Kevind53 wrote:BTW, this is from 2013, so not exactly current. Still an interesting discussion


You already posted earlier that it was old news, but yes, it's has become an interesting discussion...
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Post by dwm007 on Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:33 pm

Since by far most of the Dinar that was imported came here before 2013 how does this being a couple of years old make it any less relevant? Any information pertaining to how these notes arrived in this country is relevant, from 2013 or before or after, it all matters a great deal and it will not become outdated as long as the question is there.

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Post by Kevind53 on Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:39 am

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You already posted earlier that it was old news, but yes, it's has become an interesting discussion...

No, actually I missed this one ...

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Post by RamblerNash on Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:46 am

@Kevind53 wrote:
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RAPID CITY, S.D. – A western South Dakota man pleaded guilty in federal court Friday to evading federal reporting requirements for importing foreign currency. As part of a plea agreement he will forfeit currency and assets with an estimated value of $1.2 million.
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I wonder why they didn't also prosecute him for illegally importing dinar since it is against the law.

Maybe he pled guilty and agve up his assets. I wonder what the penalty is for importing dinar?

He did, it's right there in the first paragraph. Also, note that this is old news.
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Post by aksafeone on Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:36 pm

I believe that this was posted again to show that people have used the dinar to further their own illegal enterprises.  I also believe that the gentleman who this is about paid the price for his greed.  I KNOW that there is more to this story because as Kevidd53 wondered, "As part of a plea agreement he will forfeit currency and assets with an estimated value of $1.2 million."

The KEY words above is being "plea agreement."  AS we all know, individuals who make these deals typically are held accountable to a lesser crime or for one of many crimes in exchange for their guilty plea on the charge that the deal stipulates.  (It is also believed that this type of agreement eventually amounts to letting the other crimes go and the perpetrator typically goes back to their od ways and commits the very same crimes over and over again.)

It is suggested that WE THE PEOPLE stand up and get this disgusting practice stopped within our courts.  Isn't it time for the criminal to be punished for all of their crimes?  Isn't it also about time that the Judges quit "suspending" imposition of sentences?  What good does it do to convict someone and then slap their wrist with a suspended sentence?  "OH, you bad person - you shouldn't have stolen the crown jewels.  I'll let you off with 3 days instead of 30 years and reduce your fine if you promise to be a good little person and NEVER do this again."  I WONDER HOW MANY CRIMINALS HAVE HEARD THIS VERY THING MANY TIMES OVER - probably every time they get busted.

Time to make the lawyers and judges do the work they are supposed to do, again.  Also past time for the criminal to be held responsible for their crime and have a sentence that will be appropriate to ensure that it dows not happen again.  What do you say?  (Don't tell me - tell the courts.  Get out and if you have to petition for justice.)  This clown will ultimately do something else just as illegal again and ultimately the same scenario will occur.  Why post this again?  How about to remind us that we need to be on top of things and ensure that the victim's rights and welfare are protected.
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Post by Ponee on Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:34 am

More of these Dinar Sellers and Pumpers need to go to jail

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Post by aksafeone on Sat Mar 30, 2019 12:45 am

Agreed.  The sooner the better.  Now that we may be close to a goal t is more important that we clean up these scoundrels and get them properly prosecuted.  How soon will this happen?  Hopefully really soon.
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