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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:13 am

His brother Ray was ordered not to ever give anyone tax advice for money.... such as the hundreds of people who have paid him $500 for his Wealth Retention seminars around the country. Where they learn how to shelter there non-existent millions in trusts and foundations. Pretty clever scam. Tony promoted it, making him an accomplice.  The permanent Injunction: http://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/tax/legacy/2009/03/11/RRenfrow_Order.pdf
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PostSubject: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:36 am

Ex-TNT-sheeple, if you are banned, angry and have finally seen the light - if you attended one of rayren's Wealth Retention workshop for $500 a head  or a couple, you can report it here, as Ray violated a permanent injunction not to give tax advice to anyone for money. Tony promoted it and him, so he is complicit too in violating the injunction and can go to court and jail for that as an additional new charge. Justice!! And get them to stop!

Here is the right government office to report rayren's Wealth Retention seminars: Consumer Protection/Litigation Branch of the US Dept of Justice will file a class action suit if enough people make a complaint about Ray Renfrow and his Ideal Tax Service seminars -http://www.justice.gov/civil/consumer-protection-branch  202-616-0219 . You could get your money back!
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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:59 am

Sounds like a plan !

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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Tue Dec 01, 2015 11:01 am

That is right, here and now is your chance to 'cement anchor' them to the jailhouse walls, come on, folks, let's git 'er done!!
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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:50 pm

OH GOODIE I WILL GET RIGHT ON THIS

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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:01 pm

@Ponee wrote:
Sounds like a plan !


Sounds like a plan indeed!

This could have a tremendous impact if folks will just follow through on it!
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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:30 am

For your info, I first called the number of Judge Flanagan, who signed Ray's injunction in North Carolina. I was told that the court does not initiate litigation on the matter. I was given the a Washington number for the division where the attny who prosecuted Ray Renfrow had been. He was not there anymore and the person I talked to likewise said the Justice Dept won't start litigation for a private citizen. I also called the  attny of the Justice Dept in Raleigh in the district where the case was originally held. I could not find someone who would just take up the violation of the injunction directly. I was told to call the Consumer Protection/Litigation Branch of the Justice Dept. They took my information, and although they said an attny would contact me, no one has so far. The lady also explained that if they get a number of reports from people then they would investigate and start a class action suit. That's where it stands now. If anyone knows of a way to reach someone who would take up the violation of the injunction that would be great, but it looks like we have to have masses of people report this.
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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:35 am

Thank you for doing the leg work - Let's get the word out that we need an ARMY of callers.  Do you have the phone number to share for the call and report?

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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:42 pm

Oh my!

The inaugural post-Tony call is finally going on.  Took them plenty of time to try to figure out how to do the teleseminar.  Pam jumped on the audience trying to discredit the 'old' court case that was talked about openly by Tony over the years and was bogus to begin with. 

Then the claim was that the court case had nothing to do with Dinar or 'us.'  (Trying to make Tony sound like a victim)   And yes, Tony has "agreed not to participate" or have anything to do with the Dinar or calls.  (How generous and magnanimous of him.)

NOW they are going full force to counter the emails sent to the US Attorney from "Wiley Morgan" and his associates by repeatedly giving out the email address.  Says they want the 'truth' and 'other side' to get to the prosecutor and judge.  RayRen wants people to write and tell the prosecutor that this ISN'T a scam.  Tell the prosecutors that 'people have exchanged.' Send their own stories of success in the 'not a scam' dinar.  

I don't know what the endgame is on this other than perhaps trying to derail any follow on investigations.  The 14dailyplus sentence isn't going to be changed.  Since the 'invitation' isn't listing Tony's attorney's email address, there apparently isn't a plan to create an environment to try for a retrial.  (Wouldn't happen because the plea agreement anyway.)  Nope, they are going to try to flood the US Attorney with tales of the 'good news.'

If you haven't sent an email to Kansas yet, you might consider doing so sometime in the future.    

Personally, I am okay with TNT trying this tactic.  It will keep the scam in the vision of the US DOJ and perhaps help force another investigation leading to new charges for Tony and Ray.  Would love for the DOJ to try and chase down anyone who reportedly exchanged dinar for the previously claimed outrageous returns!.  Let them annoy the US Attorney.

Here's what constitutes 'loyalty' for TNT.  Tony was sentenced on an old case.  Here's Ray to take over.  Pretty cold and uncaring dispatch of the last voice for TNT.  The king is dead, long live the king!

Oh geez....  This is truly pathetic..
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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:44 pm

Oh, RayRen just assured a caller that they will hear from Tony again.  "Count on it"

The sheeple seem to be continuing the same lame questions they always ask.  Vegas Vegas Vegas....
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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:45 pm

Ya think? lmao couch
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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:46 pm

Alcatraz, Alcatraz, Alcatraz!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:08 pm

@Cascadian wrote:
Oh my!

  RayRen wants people to write and tell the prosecutor that this ISN'T a scam.  Tell the prosecutors that 'people have exchanged.' Send their own stories of success in the 'not a scam' dinar.  


Oh geez....  This is truly pathetic..


Lol! There isn't a prosecutor on Earth dumb enough to fall for that!!!! Such a tactic will most certainly have the opposite effect and just might help to urge law officials to further investigate and prosecute this nonsense.

And you're right it is truly pathetic!
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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Thu Dec 03, 2015 1:12 am

OK, here is where to call that may result in a class action suit if enough people call, so people could get their seminar money back. http://www.justice.gov/civil/consumer-protection-branch  202-616-0219

But a faster route to stop Ray (and give Tony another court case) is here:
http://www.justice.gov/tax/program-shut-down-schemes-and-scams

"If you believe that one of the enjoined persons or businesses listed below may be violating an injunction, please contact the Tax Division with details at TAX.MAIL@USDOJ.gov
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Raymond A Renfrow's injunction  is on their list, and if you read it you will see that it applies to Tony as well as a promoter.

Have at it, folks! Let's get their attention.
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PostSubject: Re: Report RAYMOND RENFROW for violating his injunction   Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:31 am

And one more please to report Ray's (and Tony's) violation of the injunction:
https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/Information#crnt&panel1-1  Pretty easy to use.
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