TNT Member Call/Text to me - Listen

Here is what I am dealing with, I'll attach the phone call so you can hear it.
phone call -

Call I received from TNT Dinar member - "I know people that have actually exchanged" yeah right! https://t.co/KnG0xyas0G #wearethepeople

— Dinar RV News Truth (@dinarrvnews) October 15, 2015

DOWNLOAD - TNT MEMBER LISA CALLING NICK GIAMMARINO ABOUT TONY AND DINAR SCAM

Lisa (202) area code - mobile - message to Nick Giammarino

10/12/15 11:29 AM 2 days ago

Hi, My name is Lisa and I saw your article on Tony, I guess Tony Renfrow.  And I’m curious because I know people that have actually exchanged and have actually gotten money, and I've seen it for myself so….how is it that this is a scam?  Can you please Clarify? Call me. Bye Bye.

Me to Lisa
10/12/15 11:34 AM 2 days ago

Hi Lisa, it's a scam because Tony has been lying since 2011 about the Iraqi Dinar, lying about the rates. He said they are not using the dollar in Iraq, they are. He said there are people exchanging at $3, they are not. I have known people ripped off by going to private exchanges. His donations go to his daughter

https://www.dinardaily.net/t47072-tnt-private-mod-call-on-donations-tony-admits-daughter-was-getting-a-check-from-ptr?highlight=daughter

TONY ADMITS DONATIONS GO TO DAUGHTER

Me: I could go on and on. But you get the idea. What currency are you saying that people exchanged? Did you read about 14dailyplus.com indictment by chance? 11:35 AM

Lisa Dinar: Wow well I know people personally and people who have just come back from Iran within the last 2 to 3 weeks, I know people who ate in the admiral group as well as military personnel. I know people who are millionaires who have been called in to private exchanges and I myself talk to the Manger of well fargo which is one of the largest where I live as well as M and T bank. ALL OF WHO have admitted to the exchange so I do not know who you are but I know this is real for myself not because of Tony . 11:38 AM

Me: Wells Fargo just released a memo on the Iraqi Dinar Revaluation scam. There are people who lie, and millionaires typically don't brag, at least the few that I have met. Why would anyone pay more for Iraqi Dinar/Iranian Rial than what the market rate it? They wouldn't, & I've been exchanging currencies 14yrs 11:41 AM
Lisa Dinar: Thank by 11:41 AM

Me: Unless you can see a receipt of transaction, or an IRS form indicating the capital gain taxes, I suggest you treat it all as rumor. I have spoken to the FBI. 11:42 AM
Me: I might be able to call later today. 11:42 AM

Lisa Dinar: By 11:43 AM

Lisa Dinar: Thanks but no thanks..... I got this by 11:46 AM

Me: Many people have been lied to Lisa, I was one of them. I believed for a little less than a month. Then I did my own research and discovered the truth. 11:46 AM
Lisa Dinar: By by 11:46 AM

Me: Give me one Wells Fargo branch in Washington DC that exchanges dinar, give me one name of someone who "exchanged", name the Admiral Group leader, you can't. 11:50 AM

10/15/15 Me: still think this is not a scam? https://forms.fbi.gov/iraqi-dinar-investment-investigation 2:41 AM

Finally, she responds a minute later

Lisa Dinar: Please do not contact me anymore 2:42 AM
Me: I will be posting your call, don't worry. 2:43 AM

WELLS FARGO PDF- AVOID THE IRAQI DINAR!

Link to Wells Fargo Dinar Memo

What capital gains TAX??I HAVE PERSONALY  exchanged KUWAIT DINAR.AND THE UERO, and THE Japanese Yen...never paid a capital gains TAX> .....SO WHY WOULD THE IRAQ DINAR BE ANY DIFFERENT ,,,,GIO .....THIS IS A CURRENCY---NOW CAN YOU TELL ME ,WHY IRAQ DINAR IS DIFFERENT FROM KUWAIT???SINCE THESE ARE BOTH FOREIGN CURRENCIES I SEE NO DIFFERENCE...PERIOD!!NOT TO MENTION YOU ALSO NEED TO HAVE PROOF FOR YOUR OWN STATEMENTS!!!!WHO THAT HAS TRAVELED TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY HAS EVER PAID CAPITAL GAINS TAX ON A CURRENCY EXCHANGE ??? NO ONE I'VE EVER MET OR SPOKEN WITH..!OR EVEN MYSELF>>! :2cents:THERE ARE MANY SCAMS ..BUT A CURRENCY THAT IS VIABLE SUCH AS THE IRAQ DINAR , IS NOT A SCAM!!BECAUSE OUR OWN COUNTRY HELPED BRING IT FORWARD AND OUR OWN PRESIDENT GEORGE BUSCH WAS A PART OF THIS WHOLE DESIGN TO FREE IRAQ.!! SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY SCAM AS WELL! i am to believe Wells fargo over my own PRESIDENT ?NOW A CURRENCY THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED A SCAM WOULD BE THE ZIM....BECAUSE THEIR OWN PRESIDENT DEEMED IT DEAD..THIS CURRENCY HAS HAD A FUNERAL..IT HAS BEEN BURIED ,,,ITS LIFE IS OVER FORGET THE ZIM PEOPLE,DO YOUR HOMEWORK.TRUST NO ONE EVEN THOSE PEOPLE POSING AS FRIENDS..!

http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/the-revaluation-of-the-iraqi-dinar/3145  
Iraqi Dinar Revaluation

How the U.S. Plans to Make Trillions Off the Revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar

Written by Greg McCoach
Posted August 9, 2011


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U.S. national debt will exceed $14.5 trillion by the end of the summer.
The government has been underwater so long, it has gills...
But despite their desperate condition, the Feds still have a few tricks up their sleeve that will allow them to keep “kicking the can” down the road.
One of the gimmicks they've cooked up to stave the wolves off is becoming more and more evident: Iraqi Dinar Revaluation.
The dinar collapsed after the United States invaded Iraq and toppled Saddam. Prior to U.S. invasion, the Iraqi currency was trading over USD3 to one Iraqi dinar on the strength of the country's massive oil industry.
After the collapse, the dinar was trading significantly lower. At one point, a single dollar purchased one thousand Iraqi dinar.
Speculators began to take positions in 2004 hoping someday, the dinar would recover and the UN economic sanctions would be lifted, allowing the currency to be revalued. Since then, there has been much speculation regarding how and when that would occur.But here's the really interesting part...
The U.S. Government is the Largest Holder of Iraqi Dinar Outside of Iraq
Does that really come as a surprise?
The U.S. Treasury does not officially list the Iraqi dinar as part of the country's forex reserves.

New Iraqi Dinar see detail of 50 dinar bill

However, the Treasure does say it did an initial currency swap with Iraq to fund their government and Ministries...
Exactly how many dinars were traded is not mentioned, but it does make reference to “billions of U.S. dollars” traded to Iraq.
About two months ago, Iraqi dinars could no longer be purchased; the recent Dodd Frank bill appears to have legislation related to the revaluation of a foreign currency and preventing mass hysteria.
From what I have been able to gather, it sounds like this plan was originally put together by George Bush, Dick Cheney, Alan Greenspan, and others years ago as a way for the U.S. government to be repaid (read: get kickbacks) for their efforts in Iraq.
Experts speculate the U.S. government received nearly 4 trillion Iraqi dinars at an exchange rate of4,000 dinar to USD1.
If this is even close to true — and the UN allows Iraq to revalue their currency up to USD1: one Iraqi dinar — the U.S. government would stand to profit in trillions... as would anyone else who speculated on the dinar over the years.Bush’s statement, “This is a war that will pay for itself,” will be true 10 times over.
Check out how the House of Saud got taken for $267 billion of their own crude oil.

Speculating on these matters, however, is essentially useless. There is little to nothing that can be done to change it now.
Rather, our attention should be focused on what we can do to protect ourselves and establish security for the future before the house of cards finally topples.
And I maintain the best place for investors right now is portfolio positions in physical precious metals, quality mining and mineral exploration stocks, and more recently, cash.
I typically don't keep a lot of cash in my trading accounts. But I think it's important to keep a little cash in your portfolios right now, because I believe we will see some exceptional buying opportunities within the junior mining sector in the next six to eight weeks...Now this is a old BUT VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE NO DOUGHT DO YOUR RESEARCH!!

As far as taxation, it appears profit in excess of $200 is treated as a Capital Gain:


Currency gains of $200 or less that arise from personal transactions (not for investment or business) are not taxable, but any personal currency losses are not deductible. A personal transaction includes any gain or loss arising from travel even if the travel is business related. Any currency gains in excess of $200 per transaction (per trip or per purchase) are treated as a capital gain. Losses on currency exchanges for business travel also appear to be non-deductible.

The primary source of information on the tax treatment of currency gains or losses is IRC Section 988.

http://www.maximadvisors.com/2013/12/us-taxation-of-foreign-currency-gains-or-losses/

In the BH Group Indictment it specifically states that the UST Does Not hold any significant quantities of Iraqi Dinar:


"In fact the U. S. Department of Treasury does not hold any Iraqi Dinar for investment purposes and holds only a nominal amount for use in daily operations."


http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/wtvg/docs/120920_BHgroup.pdf

Good points Ssmith. Saves me from having to post them.