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Post by RamblerNash Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:08 pm

Tony Robbins: Why We Do What We Do



The Tony Robbins Fraud: Revealed
Updated on January 13, 2012

Tony Robbins is everywhere on TV today with 30 and 60 minute infomercials. With such exposure, people ask, “Is Tony Robbins a fraud, a scam, or for real?” Before you put down your hard earned money, review what Tony Robbins is really selling.

Twenty years ago Robbins sold his original Personal Power program on TV and live seminars. A local real estate agent talked me into purchasing the program. I enjoyed the program and found it valuable. I reviewed about twenty of his Power Talk interviews and found most to be inspiring and motivational.

I became interested in how Tony Robbins was able to motivate a crowd so completely. It became apparent that he uses techniques that caused people to do his bidding without physical contact or even his presence in the room. This article will explore the two main techniques Tony Robbins uses to get people to do what he wants: neuro-linguistic programming, also called NLP, and Ericksonian hypnosis, a way to induce a trance without the subject knowing they are hypnotized and planting a suggestion.
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Neuro-Linguistic Programming (NLP)

Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) is presented as a fast way to get results in psychological therapy. NLP claims a connection between our neurological response, language, and behaviors learned from experience, allowing a treatment method for people suffering from any of a multitude of mental disorders, including: depression, anxiety, learning disorders, bad habits, and phobias.

Tony Robbins employs methods like 'anchoring' to achieve the goals desired. He also uses fire walking and other devices as metaphors to convince people anything is possible. Modeling plays a key role in Robbins' teachings. He teaches his students to use their good, powerful, and positive behavior to their advantage by modeling the desired behavior patterns in the area they want to improve.

The language we use with ourselves is paramount when applying NLP. Tony Robbins encourages students of his program to ‘fake till you make it.’

Tony Robbins did not invent or discover NLP. There are several flavors of NLP taught by different self-help and motivational speakers. Robbins has a large following of admirers that claim he provided the principles needed for their success in business and personal life. He also has a number of detractors that levy claims NLP is a scam and fraud.
The psychotherapy mainstream has ignored NLP due to the lack verifiable testing.


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Ericksonian Hypnosis

This is the scariest teaching of Tony Robbins. Ericksonian hypnosis in its simplest form seeks to put the subject into a trance without their knowing. The practitioner uses the subject's own beliefs against them to induce trance and implant a suggested behavior change. Many students of Tony Robbins and Ericksonian hypnosis attempt to use the new found skill to influence people around them to their own benefit without ever informing the subject they have been induced to take a certain actions.

The practitioner of Ericksonian hypnosis attempts to break the pattern of the subject by doing something unexpected. The natural response of the subject is to enter a mini-trance as they mentally work out what has happened. This is when the suggestion is planted.

Ericksonian hypnosis is not the blunt suggestion ‘You will not smoke,’ but rather an indirect ‘You can become a nonsmoker' type of hypnosis. It gives the subject permission to carry out the act. Tony Robbins uses the same technique when he says, ‘You can do this stuff. You can succeed,' giving you permission to buy his products.

A student of Ericksonian hypnosis when shaking your hand will employ techniques that force a mild trance. Since the handshake is something we do without thinking, it is easy disrupt the expected action halfway through the process. The handshake to induce a trance begins as a normal handshake. The manipulation begins as the grip loosens. As the grip eases, the thumb and little finger linger on the hand with a light brush against the subject’s hand. The middle finger then drags along the palm as the subject focuses on the thumb and little finger brushing the side of the hand. The subject’s mind works to understand what is happening by entering a light trance. To distract what is happening, an appropriate verbal exchange can be used. Each level of the handshake can lead to a deeper and deeper trance.

Ericksonian hypnosis teaches many additional ways to induce trance and plant a suggested behavior. Teaching these skills to the masses is dangerous, as most students do not inform their subjects they are attempting to manipulate their behavior.

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Conclusions

So, is Tony Robbins a scam or fraud? Is he taking advantage of people? It appears as if Tony Robbins is sincere in his efforts to help others. He wants to be rich and famous, no doubt. He talks about the influence he got from the book THINK AND GROW RICH. It is not a bad goal to want wealth, fame, and prosperity. The two main concerns are: 1.) Is he using his knowledge to manipulate people to his advantage, and 2.) Is he teaching other to manipulate? His greatest shortcoming could be his gullibility. He admits in his Ultimate Edge recordings he was teaching the wrong thing for years  when it comes to health issues, but has the right answer now. Tony Robbins throws his support behind fantastic claims and periodically faces the failures that result. As with any claim, use caution.

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Post by Kevind53 Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:54 am

Well I have no idea who he is, but if Pam is pumping him, that's good enough for me to stay away ....

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Post by Ponee Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:14 pm

I don't know who he is either but, truthfully, I have to say that the article is written by someone who has no understanding of NLP or hypnosis and needs some education.

Sounds to me like they were failures at what they attempted to  achieve through Tony's program and want someone to blame.

With any self help programs there is a level of SELF RESPONSIBILITY.

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Same with buying the dinar.

Shame on the gurus for always pumping and lying but shame on the followers who are not doing their part to avoid being used.

Can't blame just the gurus for their problems .

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Post by RamblerNash Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:30 pm

"Robbins began his career promoting seminars for Jim Rohn.[5]"


"Later, Robbins began his own work as a self-help coach. He taught neurolinguistic programming (NLP) and Ericksonian hypnosis after training with NLP co-founder John Grinder."

"Robbins promoted his services as a "peak performance coach" through his books and TV infomercials. His first infomercial, Personal Power, was released in 1988 and produced by Guthy Renker.[9] Early infomercials featured celebrities such as Pro Football Hall of Fame quarterback Fran Tarkenton and actor Martin Sheen.[10] By 1991, an estimated 100 million Americans in 200 media markets had viewed his informercials"




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