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Post by benttree on Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:57 pm

If it  true that the Admirals Group and Generals 64 have a deal with China through the UST and Wells Fargo why would their have to be an RV first

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Post by FS4Enthusiast on Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:26 pm

It's not true that the Admiral and Generals groups have a deal with China through the UST and Wells Fargo.

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Post by dwm007 on Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:38 pm

Pure 100% USDA certified Hogwash and nothing more! These types of stories have been bantered back and forth since the beginning of this scam and I suppose it will continue. Considering the obvious absurdity of nonsense such as this and the past records of the gurus who dream it up I honestly don't understand how anyone could even consider that it MIGHT be true.

Not sure where you got that, but seriously, look at whoever it is that's spouting that nonsense and ask yourself what have they EVER been right about and how many other BS stories have they told in the past?

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Post by benttree on Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:19 pm

@dwm007 wrote:Pure 100% USDA certified Hogwash and nothing more! These types of stories have been bantered back and forth since the beginning of this scam and I suppose it will continue. Considering the obvious absurdity of nonsense such as this and the past records of the gurus who dream it up I honestly don't understand how anyone could even consider that it MIGHT be true.

Not sure where you got that, but seriously, look at whoever it is that's spouting that nonsense and ask yourself what have they EVER been right about and how many other BS stories have they told in the past?

ask how many people are confirmed member


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Post by dwm007 on Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:30 pm

Well you posted three times and I still don't know for sure what you are asking? How many members are confirmed for the groups? I have no idea and couldn't care less and I don't know if the groups even exist or not, again I couldn't care less, what I was addressing is the supposed "deal" that's pure BS! NOBODY has made, nor would it even be possible to make, any such nonsensical deal as that. My god man it should just be common sense!


Tell ya what, why don't you describe in detail just what you have been told and by whom then maybe we could discuss it item by item, how's that?

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Post by dwm007 on Tue Aug 18, 2015 3:19 pm

Ok since I am still stuck in my home with an injury so I have taken a bit of time to research this question, "Admirals group Dinar" also ties in to TNT in almost every link so that in itself should be enough! Now just to attempt to address this issue let's start here,


OLDER POST wrote:
December 29, 2013
The Admiral’s group cashed out today with the Chinese?



12-28-13 CAL:   Treat this as rumor, but the guy who got me involved in the dinar 3. 5 years ago, was involved 1. 5 years before me. He knows of the Admiral’s Group. I do not know if it is the same as who Tony talks about in the past. None the less, he just told me the Admiral’s group today cashed out with the Chinese and should be hitting their accounts very soon. That is all I was told! No more detail than that! I pray that this is true!!! Come on RV!

UPDATE: No SKR, will receive Cash! RV should be triggered not long after that!?! My friend does not know the Admiral, but someone in the group. Again, though I trust my friend, you know how hear say is, please take as rumor! I am encouraged for my friend trust his!!

http://www.dinaradvice.com/2013/12/29/the-admirals-group-cashed-out-today-with-the-chinese-2/




Two years ago? Is that the "deal" you are referring to?

 THINK for a second and you can see why I said earlier it should just be plain common sense. Instead of asking "If it's true then why would there have to be a RV first"? Why not instead ask the logical question of WHY would there be a deal with the Chinese (or anyone else for that matter)? THINK about it! Why on Earth would the Chinese pay one red (pun intended!) cent more for Dinars than the market price? Why on Gods Green earth would they pay a "RVed" rate when they could get all the Dinars they want for 1166/1170 to the Dollar? Does that make sense at all?

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Post by dwm007 on Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:02 pm

I will freely admit that I have paid almost no attention to these "groups cashing out ahead of time" in the past, I mean it's just so ridiculous why bother? Still just a few minutes using Google shows it to be EXACTLY what I have assumed all along, how could it be anything else?


"Cash in to use Dinars for future oil purchase" is an old guru tactic used to explain the obvious answer to the question I asked him about why anyone would pay "RVed" prices when they could get all they want for a fraction of that cost. It matters not in the least what they would intend to use them for the fact remains that it would take unbelievable stupidity to make such a "deal" when Dinars are available at a fraction of that cost. Even if it would somehow be possible in the future to trade Dinars for oil at $50 a barrel or even 50 cents a barrel that makes no difference what-so-ever they could STILL BUY Dinars for a tiny fraction of any "RVed" price so why would they "cash out" ANYONE for any reason?

Besides those stories about countries holding Dinar for oil don't even address the also obvious question of why would Iraq sell oil cheaper if it were to be paid for in Dinars?

And then there is also the fact that everyone just automatically ASSUMES Iraq even wants these Dinars back but would they? Really? No country in the world wants Dinars because they can't buy anything with them! Iraq has noting to sell but oil, sand and camel dung, no one wants sand or camel dung and oil must be paid for in Dollars therefor the Dinar has value in Iraq only and raising the exchange rate will not change that!

The U.S. Dollar OTOH, like the Euro, can purchase almost anything that's available on earth that's for sale so yes they have value but not the Iraqi Dinar!

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Post by Ponee on Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:15 pm

I didn't get involved with any groups because I wasn't turning my dinar over to anyone, and I wasn't paying any upfront money for something I had no control over and there was no proof of any legitimacy.

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Post by dwm007 on Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:29 pm

For sure!

Some of those groups were indeed a scam within a scam and some speculators saw their Dinar vanish by allowing someone else to "cash it in" for them! That Dinar simply wound up going right back into the Dinar sales pool and being resold to more speculators wth the proceeds going into the scammers' pockets! In that sense it does indeed have value in that it will (would in the past anyway) bring $1000 to $1200 per Million or even more if broken down into smaller packets.


In any case it's hard to imagine how anyone could actually believe that ANYONE would for ANY REASON pay "RVed" rates while all the Dinar they could possibly need for whatever might be the reason are available for a fraction of the cost. It just boggles the mind that someone could fall for this! If the Chinese could get "cheap oil" for Dinars they paid $1 to $3 per for then they could get that same "cheap oil" with Dinars they paid a tenth of a cent for so again I ask WHY?

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Post by Ponee on Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:39 pm

That has been my question also. Why?

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Post by Kevind53 on Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:59 pm

If I am remembering right, the Admiral's group and the Generals 64 group have each cashed in several times in the past few years.

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