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 PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?

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PostSubject: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Thu Jul 23, 2015 11:55 pm

Yesterday Markmeersman gets everyone excited about the Group Cash out then Today he Tells everyone to forget about it.  WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!?

YESTERDAY'S MESSAGE

Instructions for starting the exchange process


To begin the process, go to



http://bit.ly/HOH-INTAKE



This link will allow you to update your currency holdings that you wish to exchange. Once completed, you will be given access to the forms that need to be completed. Below, please find your instruction e-mail. All paperwork must be completed accurately in BLUE INK ONLY. Once the forms are filled out, make copies for yourself, but send the originals with your currency. Copies of ALL receipts must also be provided. If you do not have a receipt, send an affidavit.



If you have friends and family who are NOT part of the forum who wish to participate, you may share the link above with them, so that they can fill out the paperwork and send it in. They will be placed on a list for the next round. If a slot becomes available in the current round, they will be notified.



Dear PIF Group Member,

The time has finally arrived! Thank you for your patience during this long wait. This is your official offer to exchange the currency you hold. If you wish to participate in this exchange with the PIF Group, please follow the instructions provided below. Only Dinar and Dong will be exchanged at this time.

Due to security concerns, the authorities overseeing this exchange felt it was too risky for all those involved to have people with so much money traveling to and congregating in central locations. We don't want to make you targets. They also don't want to announce locations to this many people, because people make mistakes, tell other people about this, and it jeopardizes everyone. Therefore, despite us telling you not to give your currency to anyone for over a year now, this is exactly what the authorities are asking you to do. The banks will be closing for a week here shortly, and during that week, all exchanges will be processed. The proceeds of your exchange will be available from the Paymaster once the banks reopen. So, if you wish to participate, it is imperative that you send your currency and paperwork promptly to the address provided below.

If you are not comfortable with this preferred option, you can always drop off your currency and paperwork in person at the Paymaster's office in Salt Lake City, UT. The Paymaster's office is in a bank. Once you drop off your currency and paperwork with the Paymaster, there is no reason to remain in Salt Lake City. To exercise this option, simply make travel arrangements to Salt Lake City, UT and notify Mark when you can meet him at the Paymaster's office. If you are uncomfortable with either option, then don't do it.

Our group will be exchanging as a sovereign (nation), so there will be no taxes on this exchange. This is good news in that you won't have to report this on your tax return. For those who successfully complete and submit the required forms in time, the Dinar will be exchanged at $2.00 net (all fees included), and the Dong will be exchanged at $0.60 net. For those who do not get their paperwork and currency to the Paymaster's office by Friday, July 24th, will automatically be moved to the next round. In the next round, the Dinar will be exchanged at $2.00 gross (taxes and fees apply), and the Dong will be exchanged at $0.60 gross.

A confirmation will be provided that your newly completed forms were received with your currency and were acceptable. A signed copy of the NDA will be sent to you after the exchange.

If you have friends and family who are NOT part of the forum who wish to participate, you may share the following link with them, so that they can fill out the paperwork and send it in. They will be placed on a list for the next round. If a slot becomes available for the current round, they will be notified. The link to begin the paperwork process is:


http://bit.ly/HOH-INTAKE


You may share that link ONLY, but NOT this e-mail or the contents of this e-mail.




If you wish to participate by mail, follow these instructions exactly:

1) Separate your currency by denomination (5,000s, 25,000s, 100,000s, etc.).

2) Place each denomination in its own Ziplock bag. Use the Ziplock bags with a sliding zipper.

3) Write the amount in each Ziplock bag on the bag itself with a permanent marker.

4) Close the Ziplock bag and tape it shut with duct tape.

5) Clip the Ziplock bags together with a black steel binder clip.

6) Place the Ziplock bags (clipped together) in the smallest box possible.

7) If you have both Dinar and Dong, you will have two sets of Ziplock bags, one set for Dinar and one set for Dong. Clip the Dinar bags together. Clip the Dong bags together. Place both sets of clipped bags in the same box, and mail them together.

8) Take a picture of the currencies all bagged up and put in the box before you close up the box.

9) Once you filled out your final currency amounts online, you will receive and email that will provided you access to all the forms you need to fill out and send. Fill the forms out completely and accurately. USE BLUE INK ONLY. Place the forms in the box with the bags of currency. The Paymaster instruction form allows you to specify instructions to the Paymaster.

10) Seal the box and send it OVERNIGHT using FedEx or UPS. You can track your package and know when it is delivered. Do NOT use regular mail or the Post Office. Your package must arrive by Friday, July 24th. Those who do not get their package to the Paymaster's office by Friday will be automatically moved to the next round.

11) Insure the package for the amount you actually paid for the currency.

12) DO NOT SHARE THIS E-MAIL OR ITS CONTENTS WITH ANYONE !! PLEASE KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.




Your package (containing your currency and paperwork) should either be overnighted to Mark's home OR you may drop off your package in person at Mark's home in Salt Lake City. This is a for the person




Mark Meersman's address is:

Mark Meersman
12954 Kale Lane
Riverton, UT 84065

801-514-1612

For those that mailed their currencies earlier to the Paymaster’s address, Mark will pick those packages up and handle and handle them accordingly.

Due to the time constraints, there is not enough time for everyone to meet and deliver their currencies to the Paymaster. This would have become a deterrent to the timing of all getting the paperwork done in a timely manner and the exchange being on schedule. Those who still desire to see the Paymaster location and meet him may still get that address from Mark on arrival and stop by that office.

This is not meant to be a meet and greet or social event. This is a business transaction and all will need to attend to business and not remain on site. We want to be as low key as possible and not draw attention to ourselves for security reasons. The location will be very secure and you will be very safe.  

Enter currency totals at this link: http://bit.ly/HOH-INTAKE

This link and only this link can be shared with family and friends for 2nd wave transactions.

Documents that need to be included are still in the process of being created so be patient.

Follow instructions above and mail currency, signed documents, all receipts and pictures directly to Mark by Friday 7/24.

It is acceptable to put all family/friend currencies in the same overnight package to send.

If you gifted someone follow same way you did and bring their file with you.

Please use UPS or FedEx overnight to ship package and insure for the amount you paid for the currency.

Please email Tracking number to Mark@pifpifpif.com

Mark Meersman's address is:
12954 Kale Lane
Riverton, UT 84065

Mark's phone number for shipping forms: 801-514-1612

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TODAY'S MESSAGE FROM PIF - MARK MEERSMAN

Please listen to me. Don't give up. Don't do anything at all. Don't send anything. This sovereign deal is not going to fly. I am here to be honest and beyond reproach on this. There is no deal if the paperwork and other things are not done correctly. I don't care what anyone says. I will wait. I will not endorse this sovereign deal or ever put you in a bad position. I never have. I know people watch this room and run around DW. Please wait for instructions from me. That's it. If you do something else, or sell out for less, that's your choice. Nobody will be left behind. Backdoc, what say you? Don't worry, I am not here to scam a soul. I am rejecting all packages that were sent. Anyone who sent a package will notice the delivery was rejected, and the package is on its way back to you. I will not do someone's dirty work. If you want to try and do the sovereign deal, you are on your own. I have a correctly signed agreement, and I will not allow anyone in this group to be scammed by anyone. If it means I get zero for doing the right thing, so be it. Right now, until we have that done, don't get in front of me. Do not travel. If it seems to be too good to be true,then it normally is. Notice the lack of secrecy on this sovereign deal. I see things more clearly now with a little sleep. Please wait for me to make sure things are right. I gave you my word and I will keep it.
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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:10 am

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WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!?

Maybe a call from the FBI?

Maybe an attack of conscience?

Maybe his info got spread around so much he just decided this was way too obvious a scam and he didn't want to go to jail?

Where's old Relix? He got scammed the same way, right? Maybe he has some more insight into how these scams work, since someone ripped him and his friends off for a bunch of dinar.
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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:52 am

Maybe "Mothers" warning at TNT caused things to implode.

The Scheme to Take Dinar/Dong FYI


TNT Folks,
 
Today Tony admonished everyone about this group out there that is sending emails out about “This is it – your last chance to be Funded”  They are using the word Funded and not exchange.  I received such an email and I am sharing it with you.
 
I shared with Pam this late evening a copy of an email from someone who I will withhold their name to protect them from their own gullibility.  I am shocked that folks are actually going for this.   This particular letter is from a group that continues to offer such wonderful deals all under the guise of using new terminology and playing semantics with words.  What do I mean by Semantics?
 
Using the word “Funding” instead of “Exchange”
Using the word, “Transaction Specialist” instead of “Paymaster”
 
And using the oldest trick in the book Fear-mongering.   They are literally trying to scare you into thinking this is it your last chance.   
 
There is a book that was written nearly 2000 years ago where a certain person was quoted I believe in the book of Matthew admonishing the faithful in Chapter 8 right after the Sermon on the Mount, beware of Wolves in Sheep Clothing.   I am going to go on the record here and tell you this is the Wolf.   The folks pandering and scaring folks are nothing more than “snakes in the grass” trying to beguile you.
 
Now more than 4 weeks ago a person in this group sent me an email telling me you have to do this.  I asked to see copies of the documents but was told first you have to sign a Non-Disclosure Agreement.  I was like are you kidding me?  I refused to sign anything without looking at the fine print.  And nothing was forth coming and I was told, “you missed out”  Well guess what – nothing has happened, none of the folks in the alleged Group 1 have been paid.  All previous groups put together by this same group, nothing has happened except the “bells and whistles”  
 
I am going to post the letter below because I want you all to read it, however I want you to pay close attention to the sections and my comments:
 
Section 1.  The want you to send them a colored photo of your Driver’s license and or passport.  It all sounds innocuous a sheet identifying who you are, how much currency you have, your email, your phone number your mailing address etc.  Imagine this you are going to provide this information to a complete stranger someone you have never met.  If you are even considering this. “ARE YOU FREAKING CRAZY?”   How many stories have we heard in the last year alone about identity theft? You have any idea what can happen if those personal documents above get in the wrong hands?  A person would have to be nuts.   Why do they need such personal information?   And they want a thumb print now we are getting very personal.  I use my thumb print on my phone for security reasons and on my IPad why in the world would I give it to someone who I do not know?   This is absurd!!!
 
Section 2.  They want you to sign an official document they call a LPOA – Limited Power of Attorney.  This document if confected right needs to be signed before a Notary Public and two witnesses to be authentic at least in the jurisdiction I work in.  What is in it? Well for starters and I do not have the entire document but this provision is in it.
 
“…This page identifies the group.person who has the legal authority to take “YOUR” currency to the bank to be traded in for $ under your name supposedly and deposited in your account. What is not said is how much is being deposited in someone else’s account”  lets say for the handling fee, the negotiating fee, or better yet the commission and perhaps even some crazy ludicrous foundation to save the world.   Those last things are not mentioned however in previous such deals from this same group the have been alluded to, I am not gullible enough to believe the leopard has changed his spots.  
 
Look at that.  The person who has the authority to “TAKE” your currency. This means you have to hand it over and trust someone you have never met, you might meet them but I doubt it.  This has “Golly” written all over it, can you hear “Gomer Pyle saying Golly Sarge?”
 
LISTEN TO ME: DO NOT EVER SURRENDER YOUR CURRENCY TO ANYONE BUT THE BANKER IN A BANKING FACILITY AND ONLY UPON RECEIVING A RECEIPT FOR THE SAME.   DO NOT HAND OVER TO ANYONE YOU MAKE CONNECTION WITH ON THE INTERNET.
 
Section 3. Provenance documents. Just look at the list of things they want. You talk about getting personal again.  Now they want your relatives names, your friends, your children’s names, copies of receipts, purchase order numbers, whom you purchased from.  Honestly it all sounds innocent enough.  I mean the ole boy who has your LPOA needs to be able to prove allegedly where the currency came from? But why?  I have exchanged currency my whole life when flying to and from the  United States.  Not one banker, not one exchange clerk has ever asked me, “Where did you get this currency?” “I need receipts for it? Come on. . . are they crazy?   Receipts for currency.  When I have been in Russia or the UK or Switzerland or Costa Rica or Mexico or Canada and I come back, I have currency from those countries, I purchase things and I receive change in the countries currency, not a receipt for purchasing it.  Again – think folks.   
 
Why do they need to know your children’s names?   GOLLY are you kidding me?   This is over the line!!!!!!
 
Section 4.  The NDA – Non Disclosure Agreement.  I have seen a similar one from this group before.  I would be scared to sign this because if you sign it you could forfeit your currency or be hit with penalties etc.  I mean this is a TOP SECRET NATIONAL SECURITY SUPER DUPER X A GAZZILLION SUPER SUPER SUPER SECRET.  Are you kidding me?   You have to sign this before you get any of the alleged documents above which do not explain everything I assure you.  
 
Common Sense, if it sounds too good to be true it probably is.  And why are they scaring you.  I mean why did the beginning of my email start with, “THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC RV!!” THEN IF YOU WANT TO BE FUNDED YOU HAVE TO DO BY FRIDAY.   
 
Think about this a moment. We have an executive order signed by the President of the United States – this order applies to every single U.S. citizen not a select group.  We have countries around the world whose citizens are also participating.  We have soldiers who have sacrificed so much for this country and abroad. And these yopes are the only ones who have the BIG SCOOP! THEY are GOD’s GIFT to us ALL, they have the “TOP SECRET NATIONAL SECURITY SUPER DUPER X A GAZZILLION SUPER SUPPER SUPER SECRET that only they know about.   Never smoked weed in my life but these folks must have some good stuff because what a hallucination.  
 
What are they getting out of this?  Why are they being so altruistic?  They are most certainly not doing it for free.  
 
Legal thought:  The letter below almost looks like an “Offering” to me.  And I am going to go out on a limb here and say it comes dangerously close to be a “Security Offering”  So where is the Risk Assessment, the list of principals the financials, all the stuff you need a Private Reg D offering. Because this is “Close”. And I am going to make an illustration here and borrow something from Tony.  What happens if this is ever investigated?  You think those folks who give their currency, their hopes and dreams to a perfect stranger will ever get it back if lets say the FBI or someone from Treasury is in the bank when this goes down?  We have all see what has happened to Sterling.  Again I am going to remind you of my last statement about that – the only ones who will see any serious money will be the Receiver and his law firm.   Pennies on the dollar will be what anyone else receives.  It is how it works.  
 
So think about it – you want to “roll the dice?”  Again?
Put it in context:
 
LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, THEY ARE ASKING EACH PERSON TO GIVE THEM ALL INFORMATION YOU KEEP PRIVATE. YOUR DRIVER’S LICENSEE, YOUR PASSPORT, YOUR PERSONAL EMAIL, YOUR MAILING ADDRESS, PHONE NUMBERS.  AND TO PROVIDE YOUR THUMB PRINT/FINGER PRINT.  THEN THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH YOU HAVE, WHERE YOU PURCHASED, ANY RECEIPTS, ANY PROOF OF AUTHENTICITY.   ALSO PROVIDE THE NAMES OF EVERYONE YOU HAVE GIFTED, PURCHASED FOR FAMILY OTHER RELATIVES LOVED ONES FRIENDS AND COPIES OF DOCUMENTS GIVING THE SAME ALL WITH PERSONAL YOURS OR THEIRS PERSONAL INFORMATION. AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF THEY WANT YOU TO SIGN A NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT SO YOU CANNOT TELL ANYONE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE WITH PENALTIES FOR DISCLOSING. AND FINALLY THEY WANT YOU TO SIGN A POWER OF ATTORNEY OVER TO SOMEONE YOU HAVE NEVER MET PROBABLY NEVER WILL FROM THE INTERNET AND GOD KNOWS WE CAN TRUST EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET WHICH DICTATES YOU GIVING YOUR CURRENCY TO A PERFECT STRANGER TO WALK INTO A BANK IN A STATE WHERE YOU ARE NOT FROM CONDUCT BUSINESS ALLEGEDLY ON YOUR BEHALF ALL OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR PEE-PICKING LITTLE HEARTS
 
WHAT IN SNOOPY’S NAME COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG WITH THAT SCENARIO?
 
YOU SEE THE IRONY – DON’T DO IT!
 
TNT – you need to pass this to your friends.  Do not give out personal information to anyone on the internet. Most certainly do not give your currency to anyone.   Remember be “As wise as a serpent and as harmless as a dove”  You have plenty of information to conduct the “Funding” to borrow their words yourself.   This is not rocket science.  Hang in there and as always I remain
 
With kindest regards,
 
Mother, Esq.
 
Text of scheme below:
 
THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC RV!!!
 
IF YOU WISH TO TRADE IN YOUR DINAR OR DONG TO THIS.
 
DEADLINE TO GET FORMS IN FRIDAY JULY 24TH!!!
 
 
YOU NEED TO MAKES THIS A PRIORITY if you wish to be funded!
 
If you have friends and family who wish to participate IN THIS IQD/DINAR AND VND/DONG OPPORTUNITY, you may share the following link with them, so that they can fill out the paperwork and send it in.  
 
They will be placed on a list for the next round.  If a slot becomes available for the current round, they will be notified.  The link to begin the paperwork process is:
 
 
THIS LINK IS THE INITIAL HOH INTAKE ON-LINE FORM
 
 
                                           
 
IT REQUESTS YOUR NAME 
 
YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS 
 
THE AMOUNT OF DINAR YOU WISH TO TRADE 
 
THE AMOUNT OF VND/DONG YOU WISH TO TRADE
 
 
YOU WILL THEN BE CONTACTED WITH THE LINK OF THE REQUIRED FORMS TO BE FILLED OUT AND FED-EX ADDRESS to mail them to.
 
 
THESE ARE the 4 FORMS/document REQUIRED FOR THIS “PRIVATE" TRADE:
 
 
1. CIS (3 pages, 3rd page is colored photo of drivers license or passport). 
 
This is your currency information sheet identifying who you are. It requires your current  colored passport photo or drivers license; your name; address, email address; phone number; and how much currency you have to trade.
 
Requires blue ink thumb print and signature in blue ink. 
 
 
2. LPOA (1 page - Limited Power of Attorney) 
 
This page identifies the group/person who has the legal authority to take your currency to the bank to be traded in for $ under your name - to be deposited into your personal bank savings or checking account. 
 
All bank accounts are to be Wells Fargo. These account can be set up online or over the telephone.  
 
This document requires signature in blue ink and to be notarized (at bank, credit union, some Fed Ex store may have a notary - call first to find a place where you can get this done, etc.)
 
 
3. Provenance documents. 
 
(Make a list of all of your receipts or gift letter starting with the date of your first purchase.) 
 
 
This list should include the following information:
 
1. Date of purchase
 
2. Purchase order number
 
3. Who you purchased the currency from or who gifted it to you
 
(individul, trading exchange, provide a copy of a gift letter, E-Bay receipt, Amazon.com purchase order, bank purchase order receipt, currency trader, etc.
 
- identify the total amount of funds purchased on each receipt, with each order or gift letter
 
- If you don’t have a receipt an affidavit will do (gift letter or letter explaining where the currency came from 
 
purchase order #, bank purchase order receipt, currency trader name, date of purchase, etc. 
 
Next put all of the Provenance Documents (identifying proof of ownership in order to be uploaded at the link that will be provided OR to be mailed into the groups WELLS FARGO BANK PAYMASTER)
 
 
4. NDA (5 pages) NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT
 
personal identifying information is to go on page 4 of 5  "If to participant” 
 
and sign page 5 in BLUE INK
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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:07 am

The ole eyes are a rollin on this one ... not only do they get your currency ... they get your ID for all practical purposes.

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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:16 pm



The whole thing sends up RED FLAGS  for me !

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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:21 pm

This was posted by someone last year on Dinar Daily -



 Dave Schmidt silent and pushing away from Pif "Mark Meersman private exchanges"

Read the full post click link
http://www.dinardaily.net/t34717-dave-schmidt-silent-and-pushing-away-from-pif-mark-meersman-private-exchanges

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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:31 pm

Well, I see they have taken the form down .... it is no longer available when you click on it.

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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:13 pm

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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:37 pm

Ponee wrote:
Well, I see they have taken the form down .... it is no longer available when you click on it.


His videos now are private as well.

http://www.dinardaily.net/t44340-who-is-pif-topshelf
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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:51 am

Where is Mark now? 



Or, better yet.....Where is the currency you handed over to him?
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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:52 am

Ssmith wrote:
Where is Mark now? 



Or, better yet.....Where is the currency you handed over to him?
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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Fri Apr 28, 2017 9:55 am

It also looks like Disgraced Former State Senator Dave "the Douchebag" Schmidt is up to his beady little eyeballs in this....  what appears to be an identity & currency theft scam.
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PostSubject: Re: PIF sets up GROUP CASH OUT then TAKES IT ALL BACK - What Happened?   Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:15 am

Who ever handed him a currency is a idiot! nonono
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