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Is the UK taking the ISIS threat more seriously than the US?
Threat related to developments in Iraq and Syria and PM says he will table measures restricting travel to those places.
Cameron said that he would detail his plans in parliament on Monday to confiscate passports [Reuters]
The UK has raised the country's terror threat level from substantial to severe, its second highest level, as Prime Minister David Cameron announced plans to introduce new laws restricting travel for British citizens to Syria and Iraq.
The home secretary, Theresa May, said on Friday that the decision to raise the threat level was related to developments in Iraq and Syria, but that there was no intelligence information to suggest an attack was imminent.
Some of the plots are likely to involve fighters who have travelled from the UK and Europe to take part in fighting in the Middle East, she said.
May said the decision by the Joint Terrorism Analysis Centre was made on the basis of intelligence and is independent of government.
Cameron said on Friday: "I will be making a statement in the House of Commons on Monday. This will include further steps to stop people travelling, with new legislation that will make it easier to take people's passports away."
Second-highest level
"Severe" is the second-highest of five levels.
British police have appealed to the public to help identify aspiring terrorists after the killing of US journalist James Foley focused attention on extremism in the UK.
The involvement of a person of British nationality in Foley's beheading underscored the need to identify those who might travel abroad to fight or are at risk of being influenced by controversial ideologies.
Authorities say around 70 arrests have been made in the first half of the year for a variety of offences, including fundraising, preparing for aggresive acts and travelling abroad for training as a fighter.
The police say such arrests are being made at a rate five times greater than 2013.
The Islamic State group, formerly known as ISIL, grew out of the US-led war in Iraq, and entered the civil war in Syria last year. It attempted to take command of Nusra and denounced al-Qaeda's overall leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, as "straying from the path".
It has recently taken over vast areas of neighbouring Iraq and its leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, earlier this year declared himself the caliph of territory captured on both sides of the border.
Reports suggest that a number of the fighters in the group hail from Western countries, with a majority coming from Britain. However, Al Jazeera cannot independently verify these reports.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/08/britain-raises-terror-level-severe-2014829153021786699.html
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Re: Is the UK taking the ISIS threat more seriously than the US?
Well certainly more seriously than Obama is ....
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Kevind53 wrote:Well certainly more seriously than Obama is ....
I agree.. at least he came back from vacation and started to work on this issue.. ours did a press conference and back to the court lol sometimes I wonder what Reagan would do in this situation
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He's off again doing fundraisers ....
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Kevind53 wrote:Well certainly more seriously than Obama is ....
Is that So ? Several high up officials were on todays news talk shows including CNN this morning emphasizing the strong efforts by the Iraqi army helping the Kurds and recapturing another town is due to the tremendous pressure the Obama administration is putting on the new political leaders in Iraq to DO THEIR PART if they want continued Air strikes and support from the US.
Obama is calculating in his approach and entering the Syrian theater is an enormous task and risk. But sure Republicans want any conflict to jump into ASAP.
Furthermore sanctions against Russia have put pressure on Putin. Food & other necessities are up 30-40 % in Russia and surely Obama will push Nato for a strong united front in Brussels.
AND THE FACT IS THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY ATTACK ON OUR HOMELAND DURING HIS WATCH.
But sure ......a handful of over 50 white guys who hate this gentleman with a passion know better !!
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In his own word, we don't have a strategy yet ... I have spent enough time in the military and in emergency services to know for a fact that you have a plan or plans for every contingency. I can guarantee that the Pentagon has had plans at the ready within 24 hours of this whole thing breaking loose, and they have updated them constantly. IF he wanted to do something he has multiple options at his fingertips.
For the record I do not hate him, in fact I pray for him every day, even though he has so far done nothing to earn my respect. I will however honor the office. He is perhaps the greatest orator we have seen in a long time, but he is not a great leader.
For the record I do not hate him, in fact I pray for him every day, even though he has so far done nothing to earn my respect. I will however honor the office. He is perhaps the greatest orator we have seen in a long time, but he is not a great leader.
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Well I can see "trusting" the military brass who want to show our might ASAP , same as McCain - they love conflicts and wars
Obama like Kennedy was is leery of the military brass jumping into everything .
There's lots of us who are grateful for that .
Obama like Kennedy was is leery of the military brass jumping into everything .
There's lots of us who are grateful for that .
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Oh that's right, Kennedy, the man who teamed with the CIA to give us the Bay of Pigs .... good move.
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Saw a train load of desert tan vehicles today. I believe they have a plan.
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folks have no fear hussien obama is here
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Well I hope not his plan.....It is a shame we are no longer "WE THE PEOPLE".
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billy g what plan he stated on tv he has no plan yet
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Yes,you are right. I was thinking lower politicos and maybe the military putting together a few items for the big IF. When I saw the train load of military vehicles there is no telling why or where they where headed. And even if he did have a plan I do not think he would share it with US.
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true but its a big if since he was forced to act . he did not really want to do it. the major problem is finding the isis since they are scattered all over its not easy to track them down. but one real thing i read is very scary is the isis last week took over a syrian air base and 9 commericial jets are missing you can figure out the rest if this is true
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Geez, Great. Would love that to be wrong, but history does repeat it's self. He does tend to do only what he wants. To do nothing is a plan. Not mine.
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very sad especially when you do not know who your enemy is
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Logistically, they would most like use stores they have prepositioned someplace like Saudi Arabia ( I think we still have prepostioned stores there). Otherwise, if we were to take action it would take a while. Most equipment would have to be transported by the Military Sealift Command. I believe they have prepostioning squadron at Diego Garcia, so maybe a week or so with on loading and off loading ... Troops can come by air, even a rapid response force, but the heavier equipment would take a while. A C-5A or B for example, can only carry 2 tanks, and a C-17 one, and no other planes are capable of handling the larger pieces of equipment.
Not sure if a division brings it's own equipment when they go to one say the desert training center.
Not sure if a division brings it's own equipment when they go to one say the desert training center.
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kevin while that isprobably correct we stillhave to get obummer to get the balls and do it. how many more innocent people have to die at the hands of these animals
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I will be surprised to see anything of the sort happen. When asked flat out at at press briefing today is the beheading of the second journalist was an act of war, the White House replied "We don't want to be put a label on it."
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That is why he reminds me of a Mounds Bar.
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You know it's bad when the Washington Times writes an article on how Obama consistently underestimates the enemy:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/2/obama-underestimated-islamic-state-misread-motives/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/2/obama-underestimated-islamic-state-misread-motives/
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