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PostSubject: Does The Trail Of Dead Bankers Lead Somewhere?   Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:18 pm

Does The Trail Of Dead Bankers Lead Somewhere?
By Michael Snyder, on February 18th, 2014

 
 

 
What are we to make of this sudden rash of banker suicides? Does this trail of dead bankers lead somewhere? Or could it be just a coincidence that so many bankers have died in such close proximity? I will be perfectly honest and admit that I do not know what is going on. But there are some common themes that seem to link at least some of these deaths together. First of all, most of these men were in good health and in their prime working years. Secondly, most of these "suicides" seem to have come out of nowhere and were a total surprise to their families. Thirdly, three of the dead bankers worked for JP Morgan. Fourthly, several of these individuals were either involved in foreign exchange trading or the trading of derivatives in some way. So when "a foreign exchange trader" jumped to his death from the top of JP Morgan's Hong Kong headquarters this morning, that definitely raised my eyebrows. These dead bankers are starting to pile up, and something definitely stinks about this whole thing.
What would cause a young man that is making really good money to jump off of a 30 story building? The following is how the South China Morning Post described the dramatic suicide of 33-year-old Li Jie...
 
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An investment banker at JP Morgan jumped to his death from the roof of the bank's headquarters in Central yesterday.
Witnesses said the man went to the roof of the 30-storey Chater House in the heart of Hong Kong's central business district and, despite attempts to talk him down, jumped to his death.
 
If this was just an isolated incident, nobody would really take notice.
But this is now the 7th suspicious banker death that we have witnessed in just the past few weeks...
 
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- On January 26, former Deutsche Bank executive Broeksmit was found dead at his South Kensington home after police responded to reports of a man found hanging at a house. According to reports, Broeksmit had “close ties to co-chief executive Anshu Jain.”
- Gabriel Magee, a 39-year-old senior manager at JP Morgan’s European headquarters, jumped 500ft from the top of the bank’s headquarters in central London on January 27, landing on an adjacent 9 story roof.
- Mike Dueker, the chief economist at Russell Investments, fell down a 50 foot embankment in what police are describing as a suicide. He was reported missing on January 29 by friends, who said he had been “having problems at work.”
- Richard Talley, 57, founder of American Title Services in Centennial, Colorado, was also found dead earlier this month after apparently shooting himself with a nail gun.
- 37-year-old JP Morgan executive director Ryan Henry Crane died last week.
- Tim Dickenson, a U.K.-based communications director at Swiss Re AG, also died last month, although the circumstances surrounding his death are still unknown.
 
So did all of those men actually kill themselves?
 
Well, there is reason to believe that at least some of those deaths may not have been suicides after all.
 
For example, before throwing himself off of JP Morgan's headquarters in London, Gabriel Magee had actually made plans for later that evening...
 
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There was no indication Magee was going to kill himself at all. In fact, Magee’s girlfriend had received an email from him the night before saying he was finishing up work and would be home soon.
 
And 57-year-old Richard Talley was found "with eight nail gun wounds to his torso and head" in his own garage.
 
How in the world was he able to accomplish that?
 
Like I said, something really stinks about all of this.
 
Meanwhile, things continue to deteriorate financially around the globe. Just consider some of the things that have happened in the last 48 hours...
 
-According to the Bangkok Post, people are "stampeding to yank their deposits out of banks" in Thailand right now.
 
 
-Venezuela is coming apart at the seams. Just check out the photos in this article.
-The unemployment rate in South Africa is above 24 percent.
 
-Ukraine is on the verge of total collapse...
 
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Three weeks of uneasy truce between the Ukrainian government and Western-oriented protesters ended Tuesday with an outburst of violence in which at least three people were killed, prompting a warning from authorities of a crackdown to restore order. Protesters outside the Ukrainian parliament hurled broken bricks and Molotov cocktails at police, who responded with stun grenades and rubber bullets.
 
-This week we learned that the level of bad loans in Spain has risen to a new all-time high of 13.6 percent.
 
-China is starting to quietly sell off U.S. debt. Already, Chinese U.S. Treasury holdings are down to their lowest level in almost a year.
 
-During the 4th quarter of 2013, U.S. consumer debt rose at the fastest pace since 2007.
-U.S. homebuilder confidence just experienced the largest one month decline ever recorded.
 
-George Soros has doubled his bet that the S&P 500 is going to crash. His total bet is now up to about $1,300,000,000.
For many more signs of financial trouble all over the planet, please see my previous article entitled "20 Signs That The Global Economic Crisis Is Starting To Catch Fire".
Could some of these deaths have something to do with this emerging financial crisis?
That is a very good question.
 
Once again, I will be the first one to admit that I simply do not know why so many bankers are dying.
 
But one thing is for certain - dead bankers don't talk.
 
Everyone knows that there is a massive amount of corruption in our banking system. If the truth about all of this corruption was to ever actually come out and justice was actually served, we would see a huge wave of very important people go to prison.
 
In addition, it is an open secret that Wall Street has been transformed into the largest casino in the history of the world over the past several decades. Our big banks have become more reckless than ever, and trillions of dollars are riding on the decisions that are being made every day. In such an environment, it is expected that you will be loyal to the firm that you work for and that you will keep your mouth shut about the secrets that you know.
In the final analysis, there is really not that much difference between how mobsters operate and how Wall Street operates.
 
If you cross the line, you may end up paying a very great price.
 
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/does-the-trail-of-dead-bankers-lead-somewhere

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PostSubject: Re: Does The Trail Of Dead Bankers Lead Somewhere?   Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:58 am

PONEE - I agree with so much of what you have stated as  your thoughts  and your  questions -- 


It may becoming a "common" occurrence but it is NOT normal -and as in one of the  articles I posted the writer mentioned "rare" twice - I do not agree with that  based on what little research I have done -

I did a lengthy research on suicides a few years ago because I was becoming uncomfortable with the number of people I knew (personally)  and   those  I knew but were not necessarily friends  with - There were even   a number building of clients whose  father or  husband  had committed suicide -


I have had 3 just in the past  year and it is rather disturbing to say the least.

I am only speculating  but I do feel some of those deaths warrant more investigation - But who is in charge of that and who could  be paid to alter / fix the  findings and close the case?


I do lean somewhat to some heavy skepticism  in regards to the  Bankers as well as the government  and law enforcement - After all they are subject to human weaknesses  and certainly can afford to buy power and persuasion

The one incident that really baffles me is the nail gun -- 8 times -- i can not agree that was self inflicted - I just cannot see that a person would want to torture themselves  in that way  and it seems 1 at the right place would do the job


 I can think of 2 reasons why  the men would engage the idea.  I do remember that in my research  that  men most often do want to really do the job   and men are usually most serious about their intentions and most often use guns  whereas women will use pills and  more often want to be rescued -  

These high ranking financial positions come with a lot of responsibility, lots of money and lots of risk. The stress is bound to be enormous daily -- They are either under pressure to perform   or to be quiet -- They have either done some shady deals themselves of know  of others  who have

They are fearful of being shamed  and could never cope with prison or else someone else  is protecting themselves  from leaked information -  It all reminds me of  the movies on TV about the Mafia -- The Family -- Being in the Family came with high risk just as much as  being their enemy / competition


We may never know all the facts & truth of these tragedies  or the same in regards to The Colorado Fires - Shady Hook - The Boston Marathon - and so on and  so on --

I am very concerned and curious just like you . May they rest in peace. UNEEK

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PostSubject: Re: Does The Trail Of Dead Bankers Lead Somewhere?   Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:16 am

My personal opinion is that in this life, you will almost always find what you are looking for. It is a characteristic of the human mind and experience. If you look at a large group of any sort, with the mindset that there is some sort of conspiracy they are involved in, or victims of, you will find evidence of said conspiracy.

We just saw a young man involved with the dinar die from apparent suicide. Tragic, but I guarantee you that he is not the first, or the last to do so. Someone had connected him with SWFG, but SWFG died after a long health struggle. Cancer if I remember right, nor is he the first to die of natural causes.

Now about the bankers, as uneek observed they are in high stress, high risk jobs, often enough to cause an increased risk of suicide. Some no doubt have over extended themselves financially and killed themselves out of despair, or perhaps pride. That seems to be the case for the young man in China. Some may have clinical depression, or family issues, or anyone of a myriad of other reasons. And, yea, the guy with the nail gun puzzles me as well, but that does not mean there is a conspiracy. Maybe he owed some bookie a lot of money, those guys can be pretty mean as well as  creative.

If you want to know what there have been more suicides lately, I think you just have to look as far as society. We have been in a rough place for a while now. The market crashed in '08 and many of my/our generation lost a substantial portion of their retirement savings, more lost their jobs, and in many cases their homes and other belongings. A large percentage, (quite a bit larger than the official figures), still have no job or are eking it out at some lower paying job to try and survive.

Add to that the humanistic approach that so many have adopted, and you compound the problem. Take God out of the situation, and you remove hope. Now tell them that there are no moral absolutes, and now it becomes OK to off yourself if that is what you feel is right. After all it's all about you right? I wish I had more time to develop this, but I don't, so I'll just say that yes there is a vast network of corruption, but it is not a sinister plot of man. It is an epidemic of moral and spiritual corruption and bankruptcy promulgated by the liberal elite and initiated by the enemy of our souls.

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PostSubject: Re: Does The Trail Of Dead Bankers Lead Somewhere?   Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:38 am

Thank you Kevin - you express your thoughts very well and I appreciate your time and energy to share those with us.



I can agree with all the different perspectives you bring to this - and yet we just do not have the facts on every case to really  "know".  


Just a last little note - I did read sometime ago about China  Hong Kong (I believe) that because of the working conditions in factories there - long hours  and not even allowed to leave their stations that many many  employees commit suicide. I believe they were jumping from the windows and it was so often that measures were being taken to prevent it by  having huge netting put  up -


Suicide takes about 30,000 American lives a year - it even happens among the military  - -  so sad  but  a part of our society  just as is the corruption and violence --


Every way we turn - everywhere we turn -  almost on every corner --  someone is fighting to live -- on another corner someone is dying to fight -- and  yet another corner someone is giving up the fight all together and choosing to take their own life -



May we all find strength  for the daily struggles we each face and reach out to help those that we can - Have a blessed day UNEEK

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PostSubject: Re: Does The Trail Of Dead Bankers Lead Somewhere?   Thu Feb 20, 2014 3:12 pm

Remember back in the late 70s or early 80s flight control personal were going off their rockers because of the stress,even during this time there was a-lot of farmers taking their lives because of banks and loan agencies calling in on loans, and then in the late 80s and early 90s the postal people going off the deep end. Stress, some people can not handle, and with not being in their right state of mind don't think about the loved ones they leave behind to deal with the lose. Is this the same sign we may have coming to use from the 30s when investors doing them-self's in during the great crash?
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