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Post by Kevind53 Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:47 pm

First, let me say to Okie, I have no animosity toward you or any of the other gurus. I really don't. It is my sincere hope that this time the pronouncements from on high might finally be correct and this ride is indeed coming to the end.
 
However given the past history, an open minded person would understand, even share my skepticism. We have been here before, over and over and over again. I am skeptical, but I was not always. You see, I was a super moderator on the old OOM site. I am still one on the Dinar Daily site. I vigorously defended you back then, even when I did not completely agree with you. You were the man, and you had the sources. Then you called it, not once, but several times, you then disappeared for days, and left us trying to hold things together and control the damage done. Many were banned then, but I am glad to report my ban button is dusty and rusty these days.
 
If this had happened once, we would have been OK with it, but time and again dates and rates were pronounced from on high, and nothing happened. Finally, for the sake our our own mental health something had to be done. Today DD is an open forum. Members are free to bring in any news articles, gurus, or other items pertaining to our investments for discussions, and we have a lot of them. Some light and humorous, some deep and serious, some technical, and most somewhere in between.
 
I said all of that to say this, we do not hide in the bushes waiting for you or any other guru to make a post. Actually, for a long time, we did not even allow any guru posts or discussion. We the moderators had had enough and needed time to recover. But now we do, and when they are brought over we discuss them. If there are things said we disagree with we say so, and generally speaking we say why. That seems to be something not allowed elsewhere, even when done politely, and asks for correction if possible. Once in a while one has slipped through, and get's posted, but none have ever been replied to.
 
Now I will grant that some comments are less than polite, we are all human and we all get frustrated, especially those of us who have been around for a while and seen others grievously hurt by the false reporting. Some have been induced to buy more than they could afford on the promises of gurus that this was going down any second now. I realize that they did not act wisely, but still a part of the blame must rest on those who make the pronouncements, no matter how they cover themselves with phrases such as "treat as rumor." You are someone who folks look up to for information and as such, you have a responsibility to make your pronouncements cautiously. I work as an insurance professional, and with financial professionals, and I can tell you statements such as you have made in the past would result in fines, suspension of licenses and possibly jail time. Such irresponsible and unverifiable statements are simply not acceptable. Not here, not anywhere.
 
It is my hope that this will lead all to not take anyone's not mine, not Okie's, Jester's or whoever you care to follow, statements blindly check them out, verify them, and if you can't verify them, take them with a very large grain of salt. It's not about being positive, or negative. It's about being real. When I question something it's not negativity, I am by nature a very positive person, but it is because something does not add up in my engineer's mind.
 
I do my homework, sometimes more and longer than I should, but I study, I have read the information on Basil III, I have studied the history of central banks, I have read the Iraqi constitution, I have read the UN resolutions, the UN charter, the IMF charter etc .... even the NESARA claims. So do yours as well ... read the info, all of it, even if you disagree with it, suck off the meat and spit out the bones. "Nuff Said" Hope you got it right this time Okie ....

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Post by Nightshade Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:26 am

Well done. Nuff said,

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Post by Purpleskyz Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:42 am

Reply to Okie That Will Probably Never Show on Recaps 2834342768  Well said and spot on Kevin!


Very proud of this site today!! And proud to be a part of this place and LOVE the folks here!


High time that the dinar rumors were dealt with as they should be.

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Post by aksafeone Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:09 am

Great job,  I also fully concur.
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Post by alleyrose Sat Aug 17, 2013 1:54 am


Here Here!! Go DD!!
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Post by gampy Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:12 am


Very well said, I agree,  and nope it won't make it to recaps.


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Post by Vic Vaga Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:09 am


I'm a newbie to this site, but not to the whole dynamic's of the dinar world. I am very glad to be at a site that allows members to view/comment without having that kool-aid smile effect.


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Post by Ponee Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:47 am

Vic Vaga wrote:I'm a newbie to this site, but not to the whole dynamic's of the dinar world. I am very glad to be at a site that allows members to view/comment without having that kool-aid smile effect.
Welcome Vic - we are glad to have you here.  We are of like heart and mind here.  Looking forward to your participation and comments -- please feel free to bring your own things to the boards!  We like diversity.

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Post by Ponee Sat Aug 17, 2013 12:44 pm

Thank you Kevin for such a wonderfully expressed post. I just hope that others get to see it. The time has come for people to realize they do not have to be slaves to the GURUS. They need to know that there are many intelligent people such as yourself and many others that do their due diligence and have more intel without the hype and the pump than any guru.

As always, I am honored and proud to have you as a Team Member on Dinar Daily.

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Post by californiag Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:40 pm

Hi Kevin... I have not been on the site in a long while, as I have been waiting at the station, waiting for the RV train to pull in... every night!  lol  I recently have decided to start doing my own research and amazingly, my research has brought me back to the places that I am finding, I need to be.  I applaud your post and I really appreciate how graciously you have made your statement, for many who are thinking the same thing but maybe could not have said it as eloquently as you did... so thank you!

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Post by Ponee Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:04 pm

californiag wrote:Hi Kevin... I have not been on the site in a long while, as I have been waiting at the station, waiting for the RV train to pull in... every night!  lol  I recently have decided to start doing my own research and amazingly, my research has brought me back to the places that I am finding, I need to be.  I applaud your post and I really appreciate how graciously you have made your statement, for many who are thinking the same thing but maybe could not have said it as eloquently as you did... so thank you!

Californiag - we are happy to welcome you back to the site.  As you can tell, we have been through many changes but the one thing that hasn't changed are the great members here. We find that those who have been in this awhile and have gone through hundreds of " In country RV's" and "we are just waiting for the button to be pushed" and "we will see it tomorrow" have begun to migrate to less hype sites such as DD.   Kevin and several others do a great job with discussing the facts and the articles.  We  have newbies and we have veterans.  I am sure you will fit right in.  Looking forward to hearing from you and again, welcome back.


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Post by rick152 Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:44 pm

Very eloquent Kevin, you did what a very good job summing up what most of us here at DD feel. Thank you.

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Post by Ssmith Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:36 am

[..OKIEOILMAN] I HAVE BECAME VERY CONSERVATIVE WHAT I POST AS "DINAR DAILY" SEEM'S TO PUT A SPIN OR SMART ALEK REMARK REGARDING MY POSTS. I HAVE ARRIVED ON A PERFECT PLACE FOR THE RAG THEY PUBLISH---I PUT IT IN THE BOTTOM OF MY BIRD CAGE WHERE IT CAN CATCH THEIR REMARK'S
 

Ya know Okie, I've refrained from commenting because I didn't think I could be as gracious towards you as others (by the way, great post Kevin).  I really did want to have a Christian attitude and take the highroad, but after reading the above excerpt from your post that just isn't gonna work. 
 
 
 
So here it goes......  Okie, you are the biggest fraud in dinarland.  How you are able to sleep at night after all the damage you have done is beyond me.  Do you ever stop to think how many gullible people have purchased dinar after one of your train is pulling into the station or jet is landing proclamations?  I realize people have to take responsibility for their actions, but the fact is there are many people, including some elderly, that take your word as gospel and have bought IQD when they shouldn't.  I was in your chat room when the son of a chat room regular got on and expressed  concern about how much money his mother (on a fixed income) had spent and how she had isolated herself from all her friends and lived in that chat room.  He was ripped to shreds and told to mind his own business.  Your chat room took up a collection for you after the loss of your son.  One woman had to wait until receipt of her SS check before she could sent anything in.  Then there was a newbie who had committed the grave offense of typing in caps.  I felt so bad for her, as her response left no doubt that she had been reduced to tears.  That's quite a cult you have going on there.  Those heavy handed mods could teach the Gestapo a thing or two.  That is your chat room.  It has your name on it.
 
 
 
There are good people here that allow other points of view to be shared.  Why do you find that to be so threatening?  We're all adults here and treat each other with respect.  Yes, there is some joking around.  So what?  Lose the ego and learn to laugh at yourself.  Everyone else is.
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Post by aksafeone Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:53 am

What's the matter Okie, did someone steal your thunder?  Does the poor stranded up in the air with no rv to make a landing pilot feel sorry for himself.  No?  Well then why does what we say about you bother you so much?  I felt honored when you called me out on my birthday!  Hey, this lowly dinar holder being attacked by the mighty Okie hisself, what an honor.  If you would stop and think about the little people in this (and yes I am a little people, YOU MAY CONTINUE TO LOOK DOWN ON ME as that is your style) and remember that YOU have called the RV several times when it DID NOT really happen.  I guess I don't have to tell you what that makes you do I?  Oh, your sources were wrong?  All these years?  And you still have them?  I guess that about tells us all we need to know about you doesn't it? 
 
GO AHEAD OKIE, WEAR YOURSELF OUT, ATTACK ME - then you will leave somebody else alone.  I am glad you have nothing better to do that waist your time with out little dribble - IT PROVES YOU ARE NOT A VERY BIG PERSON AND YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SENSE OF HUMOR.
 
POPCORN, peanuts, candy coated snacks ...... Would the clowns report to the center ring?
 
If you can't laugh at that then you need to step back and take a LONG look at what is happening in your world because this dinar thing is just too funny now to take seriously.  All this time and NO RV?  If ya can't say ouch, GET A SENSE OF HUMOR - and trust me the whole world is laughing right now.
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Post by az-tex Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:53 am

GREAT POST (notice ALL caps)  ssmith... Smile

I particularly liked this part:

"Lose the ego and learn to laugh at yourself.  Everyone else is."


That hit the nail on the head... I have been laughing at Okie and the other MORONS for years...

Unfortunately as you pointed out, there are SO MANY gullible folks out there that believes Okie's  and others CRAP... I wonder how many folks have lost their homes buying on reserves, and how many have actually died (yes, died) because of these IDIOT MORON FRAUDSTERS...flame flame flame

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Post by Purpleskyz Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:56 am

BOOOYAHHH!!!

Standing and applauding you ssmith! Great post and spot on!


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Post by Ponee Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:08 am

 WONDERFUL JOB SSMITH!!  We have heard from another TRUTH TALKER! 

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Post by aksafeone Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:11 am

ssmith:  I salute you!!!  You have captured this thing perfectly.  GREAT JOB. 

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Post by Ponee Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:12 am

[..OKIEOILMAN] I HAVE BECAME VERY CONSERVATIVE WHAT I POST AS "DINAR DAILY" SEEM'S TO PUT A SPIN OR SMART ALEK REMARK REGARDING MY POSTS. I HAVE ARRIVED ON A PERFECT PLACE FOR THE RAG THEY PUBLISH---I PUT IT IN THE BOTTOM OF MY BIRD CAGE WHERE IT CAN CATCH THEIR REMARK'S


It is nice to know that Dinar Daily is used in the recycling process.  I support going green and I like birds.  We are happy to assist with the cause...
 
As for being a "rag" ...that term is used for publications that tend to LIE and SENSATIONALIZE a lot.... not publications that speak the truth.  So, who's the RAG Publication here?
 


 


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Post by aksafeone Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:23 am

Hear, Hear, I agree with you Ponee!!!   Someone we know has told MANY FIBS and doesn't remember that some of us were defenders of his fibs for many years and took the flack from the chat side. 
 
OF COURSE THE CHAT SIDE, OKIE AND HIS WINGMEN CAN DO NO WRONG.  BALDERDASH.  It is way past time that site that are so "POSITIVE and unconstitutionally restrictive of freedom of speech" be taken down and hard.  If only one opinion is allowed then you have socialism.  And I thought Okie fought for OUR freedom.  He has a weird way of proving it doesn't he?  AND YES I DO APPRECIATE WHAT OUR SERVICE PEOPLE HAVE AND ARE DOING FOR US,  but I DO NOT appreciate being told my opinion stinks or will not be allowed on a site (like OOM and Recaps) because what that is is BASICALLY A VIOLATION OF MY CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND IN CERTAIN CASES IT MAY BE A VIOLATION OF SOMEONES CIVIL RIGHT ALSO.   Guess that about sums up that kind of site.
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[..OKIEOILMAN] I HAVE BECAME VERY CONSERVATIVE WHAT I POST AS "DINAR DAILY" SEEM'S TO PUT A SPIN OR SMART ALEK REMARK REGARDING MY POSTS. I HAVE ARRIVED ON A PERFECT PLACE FOR THE RAG THEY PUBLISH---I PUT IT IN THE BOTTOM OF MY BIRD CAGE WHERE IT CAN CATCH THEIR REMARK'S
 
I am also glad that we helped to facilitate in the process of okie becoming more "conservative"  in his posting.  We must hold more impact in dinarland than we knew. (Seekers of Truth unite).  Maybe one less newbie is saved from the emotional roller coaster. 

Now, if we could assist in his total "ceasing" of posting,  I would go to bed tonight, knowing that today was filled with an amazing accomplishment.
 
By the way, didn't he tell us that he WAS DONE posting?   And yet............


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Post by TLF Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:43 pm

this is to well written.. Okie is not that smart... no planes landing no ships at sea written by one of his hooligans I predict ...........[..OKIEOILMAN] I HAVE BECAME VERY CONSERVATIVE WHAT I POST AS "DINAR DAILY" SEEM'S TO PUT A SPIN OR SMART ALEK REMARK REGARDING MY POSTS. I HAVE ARRIVED ON A PERFECT PLACE FOR THE RAG THEY PUBLISH---I PUT IT IN THE BOTTOM OF MY BIRD CAGE WHERE IT CAN CATCH THEIR REMARK'S
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Post by aksafeone Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:18 pm


Sticks and stones my break our bones but WORDS will never hurt us.  If it pleases Okie and his followers to waste their time on us - SO BE IT. 



They will continue to produce their usual gibberish and balderdash until this RV's and then they will loudly proclaim that THEY we right all the time.  OK.  So what did that prove?  That they like us outlasted the hold up artists!!  Fine, NOW PAY US.  WE have better things to do.  NUFF SAID, oh, ah I apologize for using that term - CLOSE DOWN THE CONVERSATION!!

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Post by doodoo Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:25 pm

OKIE's identity revealed....Furnished to me by a very reliable source in N S A..


His real name is Punjab Osama bin bullchips!

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Post by Horizon Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:43 pm

Great post Kevin!  Really good comments enjoyed the thread!  SSmith, Akasafeone, Ponee, Doodoo...etc....Good job!!!!
Welcome to the new members that joined in.  I hope you enjoy the site! 
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TLF wrote:this is to well written.. Okie is not that smart... no planes landing no ships at sea written by one of his hooligans I predict ...........[..OKIEOILMAN] I HAVE BECAME VERY CONSERVATIVE WHAT I POST AS "DINAR DAILY" SEEM'S TO PUT A SPIN OR SMART ALEK REMARK REGARDING MY POSTS. I HAVE ARRIVED ON A PERFECT PLACE FOR THE RAG THEY PUBLISH---I PUT IT IN THE BOTTOM OF MY BIRD CAGE WHERE IT CAN CATCH THEIR REMARK'S
Too well written? LOL

No, this is Okie through and through. It has poor grammar, spelling and punctuation all over it, and it's only a couple of sentences. Especially of note is his rampant misuse of apostrophes. That's a dead giveaway right there alone. He's trying to be "serious"  and "conservative", hence no hyperbolic RV prediction statements and airplane or train metaphors.

"I HAVE BECAME" = I have BECOME
"SEEM'S" = SEEMS
"SMART ALEK" = ALEC (or ALECK)
"REMARK'S" = REMARKS

I'll admit it's not as shamefully illiterate as usual, but it's still Okie.
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