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 Where Are We At? Part II

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PostSubject: Where Are We At? Part II   Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:53 pm

It was my original intent to cover a number of issues and questions, but as I started to dig, I realized that to do justice it would make the post overly long and take weeks to prepare, so here is the second installment.

Since my first post, I have received a number of questions and comments. Some good, some not so much. I wanted to take some time and try to answer a few of them.

Let me say at the outset, I do not have, nor do I expect to have days or rates, anyone saying otherwise is likely a liar. I will say that things look very good, and we are actually in a place where it really could happen any time. What will the rate be? No one knows, but based upon the facts and discussions I have followed the best bet is around par with the dollar. I have read good arguments for around ten cents on the dollar to and for the $3.00 to $3.50 range and would consider those possibilities, but the $11.00 range figure some are tossing around is IMO is neither realistic nor supported by facts.

OK, now that that is out of the way, let’s look at some of the other issues surrounding or brought into this investment. It get’s a little murky here because various groups have tried to tie different pet theories together such as the cabal, the unconstitutional fed, corporate USA vs. the republic, NESARA, dragons, cats, rats ….. you get the picture. The one thing they all seem to have in common is absolutely no credible evidence. I do not say this lightly, most of the evidence I have seen is circumstantial at best and flat out wrong, perhaps even a lie at worst.

Let’s get to some specifics. It’s hard to know where to start, but just for the heck of it I think I’ll step on some NESARA toes first. Actually a lot of this seems to be rooted in and tied to NESARA in some way so there is a bit of method to my madness.

There actually was a bill titled the National Economic Security and Recovery Act. It was introduced in the House of Representatives around 2001 but never made it out of committee. Of course the party line by the NESARA devotees is that it was actually passed in secret as the National Economic Security and Reformation Act. It was then supposedly suppressed by President Bush and the Supreme Court. There are at least several problems with the theory beyond the lack of any evidence. First, Clinton, not Bush was President in 2001. Second, the Supreme Court does not have any sort of Constitutional power to suppress a duly processed bill. Last. But not least, neither does the President. Had Bush been President he could have vetoed the bill, but he was not. IF it had been passed, and signed by President Clinton, there would be evidence of that in the Congressional Record. There is no evidence that it ever made it beyond committee.

I want to back up a minute and look at the genesis of the NESARA bill. It was born out of a proposal developed by Dr. Harvey Barnard in the 80’s after studying currency for nearly 30 years. In 1996, he printed up 1000 copies of his proposal and delivered them to congress and others. It sat quietly until 1999 when he released it on the internet. It was picked up at that time by someone going by the name of Dove of Oneness. It was then that the story of a bill secretly passed in March, 2000, as the National Economic Security and Reformation Act. They also asserted that the new law was to be announced in 2001, but a gag order was issued by the Supreme Court, under penalty of death and that the September 11, 2001 attacks and the Iraq War were meant as distractions from NESARA. Over time, they attached the Wanta fund theory, global reset, PP, and aliens to their version of NESRA. Of note, there are allegations that Shaini Goodwin (reputed to be “Dove of Oneness”), used her version of NESARA in a scam that encouraged people to send her money to purchase shares of “Prosperity Packages.” Information at this point has proved hard to verify, but I did find a news article indicating that at least one complaint was filed against her. I have not been able to find out much more; except it appears she was tied to the Omega fraud although she denied active participation. She passed away in 2010. No, it’s not solid proof, but the fact she was investigated and that her version of NESARA was vehemently denied by Dr. Goodwin and on the website he established in 2001, certainly makes me question her veracity. BTW I have read his version of the proposed bill in the Congressional Record, around ’96 or ’97.

There is a lot more, but you get the idea. I have to conclude that NESARA is at best a factor of confusion introduced by well meaning albeit mislead conspiracy theorists, and at worst a deliberate attempt to defraud.


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