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Post by SEBtopdog Thu May 02, 2013 6:27 pm



Guys: I just saw this today on www.Breitbart.com I am still stunned.

Pentagon May Court Martial Soldiers
Who Share Christian Faith




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by Ken Klukowski
1 May 2013
The Pentagon has released a statement confirming that soldiers could be
prosecuted for promoting their faith: "Religious proselytization is not
permitted within the Department of Defense...Court martials and non-judicial
punishments are decided on a case-by-case basis...”.



The statement, released to Fox
News, follows a Breitbart News report on
Obama administration Pentagon appointees meeting with anti-Christian extremist
Mikey Weinstein to develop court-martial procedures to punish Christians in the
military who express or share their faith.

(From our earlier report: Weinstein is the head of the Military Religious
Freedom Foundation, and says Christians--including chaplains--sharing the gospel
of Jesus Christ in the military are guilty of “treason,” and of committing an
act of “spiritual rape” as serious a crime as “sexual assault.” He also asserted
that Christians sharing their faith in the military are “enemies of the
Constitution.”)

Being convicted in a court martial means that a soldier has committed a crime
under federal military law. Punishment for a court martial can include
imprisonment and being dishonorably discharged from the military.

So President Barack Obama’s civilian appointees who lead the Pentagon are
confirming that the military will make it a crime--possibly resulting in
imprisonment--for those in uniform to share their faith. This would include
chaplains—military officers who are ordained clergymen of their faith (mostly
Christian pastors or priests, or Jewish rabbis)--whose duty since the founding
of the U.S. military under George Washington is to teach their faith and
minister to the spiritual needs of troops who come to them for counsel,
instruction, or comfort.

This regulation would severely limit expressions of faith in the military,
even on a one-to-one basis between close friends. It could also effectively
abolish the position of chaplain in the military, as it would not allow
chaplains (or any service members, for that matter), to say anything about their
faith that others say led them to think they were being encouraged to make faith
part of their life. It’s difficult to imagine how a member of the clergy could
give spiritual counseling without saying anything that might be perceived in
that fashion.

In response to the Pentagon’s plans, retired Lt.
Gen. Jerry Boykin, who is now executive vice president of the Family
Research Council (FRC), said on Fox & Friends Wednesday morning:


It’s a matter of what do they mean by "proselytizing." ...I think
they’ve got their defintions a little confused. If you’re talking about coercion
that’s one thing, but if you’re talking about the free exercise of our faith as
individual soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines, especially for the chaplains,
they I think the worst thing we can do is stop the ability for a soldier to be
able to exercise his faith.”
FRC has launched a petition here which has
already collected over 60,000 signatures, calling on Secretary Hagel is stop
working with Weinstein and his anti-Christian organization to develop military
policy regarding religious faith.

**UPDATE**

The FRC petition has now exceeded more than 40,000 signatures at the time of
this update.

Breitbart News legal columnist Ken Klukowski is senior fellow for
religious liberty with the Family Research Council and on faculty at Liberty
University School of Law. This article from www.Breitbart.com

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Post by Kevind53 Thu May 02, 2013 8:13 pm

I do not think that this is in the form of any sort of reg yet. This is the expressed opinion of a person hired as a consultant by the pentagon. Troubling enough, but IF such a reg is passed, I can guarantee a constitutional challenge in the courts.

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Post by SEBtopdog Thu May 02, 2013 8:24 pm

I pray you are right, Kevin. But this Mike Weinstein is just another example of the type of people who represent this administration. His views are not that radical by comparison. Our rights are being attacked on so many flanks it's hard for the average citizen to know what to try to defend. It's another example of the canary in the coal mine, IMO.

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Post by Kevind53 Thu May 02, 2013 10:24 pm

Pentagon ‘Clarifies’ Proselytizing Comments After Legal Firm Begins Investigation


by Bethany Monk

The Department of Defense (DoD) issued a statement today
‘clarifying’ its earlier statements about possible prosecution for
military personnel who share their religious beliefs with other military
personnel. This comes the day after a law firm began its investigation
into the matter.

Fox News reported Tuesday that DoD Spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Nate
Christensen issued a statement on behalf of the Pentagon saying that
“religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of
Defense” and that “court martials and non-judicial punishments are
decided on a case-by-case basis.”

Last week, the Pentagon had a private meeting with Mikey Weinstein,
president of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF). Weinstein
has said that all service members who proselytize are committing
“treason.”

Christensen issued a statement today saying that “Service members can
share their faith (evangelize), but not force unwanted, intrusive
attempts to convert others of any faith or no faith to one’s beliefs
(proselytization).”

The words in parentheses are in the original statement.

ADF is “troubled” by both the new comments as well as the original
statement. The law firm filed a Freedom of Information Act request
Tuesday to investigate the DoD’s position on military personnel sharing
their faith.

“We appreciate the Pentagon’s clarification, but little or no
evidence exists of coercive proselytization in the military, so we are
troubled over what motivated the original comments,” said ADF Legal
Counsel Joseph La Rue. “Members of our military should not be denied the
very freedoms they fight to defend. Freedom of religion and speech are
paramount among those freedoms. We wish to ensure that the Pentagon does
not deny members of the armed services the basic freedoms that the
Constitution guarantees all Americans. For that reason, ADF is serious
about investigating this gross error.”
http://www.citizenlink.com/2013/05/02/pentagon-clarifies-proselytizing-comments-after-legal-firm-begins-investigation/

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Post by SEBtopdog Thu May 02, 2013 10:55 pm

Thank you, Kevin. I'm going to be watching developments closely.

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Post by Guest Thu May 02, 2013 11:26 pm

greetings and salutations,
wow now it is in your face!! starts with the soldiers, more to come or something like it. they are testing the waters brothers and sisters to see how much freedom can be taken and how fast!!

come out from under the 14th brothers and sisters your a citizen, they own your vassal as in vessel as in your meat suit you call a body, ,or that all CAPS NAME on the berth bond or what you call a birth certificate. That piece of paper is owned by the CROWN. you are the Good Faith for the national debt, funny thing, that is not your debt AT ALL. I invite you all to divineprovince.org to get a better understanding so that you can STAND UNDER knowledge of who and what you are and do not pay taxes, levys, fines, fees, or anything the CROWN is asking of you.
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