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PostSubject: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:12 am

Yes, from the Kaperoni website for this post:

Sorry folks -

No RV for dinar, its going to be a LOP. Exchange rate new to old of 1:1000.
Currencies to be traded in parallel for one year beginning in September.

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www.kurdishglobe.net/display-article.html?id=3CBF63FA930E6C8FF6BBF1EDC3B7D027

Saturday, 25 February 2012, 07:58 GMT

New banknotes to be introduced in September

The Kurdish Globe

Views differ on financial and socioeconomic impacts

Despite fears of a negative economic impact, the Central Bank of Iraq will
remove three zeros from Iraqi dinar notes and print new banknotes in 2013.

The Central Bank of Iraq has agreed with the Economic Committee of the Iraqi
Parliament to introduce the new banknotes in September 2012, which will be used
in parallel with the current banknotes for a year. The CBI will completely
withdraw the old banknotes by September 2013.

Abdul-Hussein Abtan, Economic Committee Member of Parliament in Baghdad stated
in a press conference that there is an initial agreement between Parliament and
the central bank to start the process of removing three zeros in September, and
it will take a year to complete. The new banknotes will be printed in Arabic,
English and Kurdish.

The CBI will introduce three new banknotes: 50 dinars, 100 dinars and 200
dinars. For smaller transactions, the CBI will also issue 1-dinar and 2-dinar
coins which Iraq currently does not use.

MP Abtan says "The grant agreement is to ensure that during the one year
process, the old banknotes are traded in the market and replaced by the new
one."

The CBI expects this move to positively impact the country's economy; however,
some parties say the negative consequences will be more serious.

The Security Commission says deleting the zeros will have a negative impact on
financial trade in the stock market. Other opponents of the move argue it would
pave the way for money laundering and want the government to reconsider its
decision.

Supporters of the idea believe the introduction of the new banknotes will help
reduce inflation, strengthen the Iraqi dinar in the international market,
facilitate trade with international banks and other financial institutions, as
well as reduce the social gap between classes.

"The process of removing zeros from the currency will contribute to
dealing better with inflation, facilitate economic cooperation with
international banks and reduce the differences in [standards of] living in
society," Abtan explained. Mahma Khalil, another Member of the Iraqi
Parliament and official spokesperson of the Economic Committee says an
agreement has been reached about the mechanisms of introducing the new
banknotes after a series of meetings and discussions with the CBI Governor Dr.
Sinan Al Shibibi.

"According to the agreements, the new bill will be printed by a European
company and introduced to the market gradually and in a well-planned schedule
to ensure it will not result in shocks and would not have a negative impact on
the market," explained MP Khalil. He added the exchange rate between the
new banknotes and the old ones would be 1:1,000.

The objective behind this move is to appreciate the value of the Iraqi dinar
against the U.S. dollar, which would in turn increase the balance of the Iraqi
dinar and there would be sufficient reserves of that currency," explained
MP Khalil. "Additionally, the economy of Iraq would grow and oil sales
would also increase." Khalil added that Iraq has a reserve of $60 billion
in the CBI.

The CBI previously stated it would consult with Parliament and representatives
to see whether there would be a need for a law to be passed for this shift. The
Economic Committee announced on 19 February it was introducing new legislation
for the purpose and would also address the inflation issue in the country.

The introduction of new banknotes and withdrawing the current ones from the
market is generally expected to reduce and control the number of dinars in circulation
and would also help facilitate payment systems and control the banking
transactions in the country.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:20 am

Split from was any one else kicked post.

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:23 am

How did I know that was going to happen? Just what everyone wants to hear, isn't it?scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:43 am

Please don't believe this crap . this is the opinion of a reporter that more than likely has their own interpretation of what they are trying to say. and further more has nothing to do with out side of Iraq.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:58 am

ok ... if they say "The CBI expects this move to positively impact the country's economy".... so if they just dropp the 000s and it becomes a new note is the same as the old note it would have NO impact on the economy .right ? they are not going to go through all this rigamamorle to end up in the same place they're at now . make sense? ... we WILL make out ok . just hold fast
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:02 am

Dis info at it's finest- Comet, you are right on the money!Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:23 am

It,s funny how everyone is at total opposite ends total misinformation. chillout

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:30 am

Personally, I don't know anymore. I hear LOP and then I hear NO LOP...LOP....NO LOP...etc. etc. etc...It is really hurting my head to think about all this at this point.

I really hope we make lots of money from this investment like we ALL always thought...
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:44 am

Did someone call me a LOPSTER? HA!


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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:15 pm

LOP...No LOP...LOP...No LOP...it reminds me of an old skit.....



http://youtu.be/sShMA85pv8M lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:04 pm

KAPERONI IF YOU BELIEVE THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOP. BE HONEST CLOSE DOWN YOUR SIGHT AND RETURN ALL THE MONEY TO GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAID YOU TO SEND THEM A TEXT WHEN THIS RV'S. IF YOU DONT THEN YOU ARE DISHONEST.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:23 pm

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Did someone call me a LOPSTER? HA!


Is that actual footage of a lobster eating a cat lmao
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:24 pm

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KAPERONI IF YOU BELIEVE THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOP. BE HONEST CLOSE DOWN YOUR SIGHT AND RETURN ALL THE MONEY TO GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAID YOU TO SEND THEM A TEXT WHEN THIS RV'S. IF YOU DONT THEN YOU ARE DISHONEST.

I guess that would be fair.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:01 pm

Can you say, 'PEPPERONI'?

Not exactly beef...

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:30 pm

Pepperoni is still made with beef- I don't think I would call it beef-a-roni, either-lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:52 pm

outback7 wrote:
KAPERONI IF YOU BELIEVE THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOP. BE HONEST CLOSE DOWN YOUR SIGHT AND RETURN ALL THE MONEY TO GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAID YOU TO SEND THEM A TEXT WHEN THIS RV'S. IF YOU DONT THEN YOU ARE DISHONEST.

Kaperoni did NOT make that statement at the beginning of the post, that was added. The article appears on his site as do many others and as far as I know, he has always believed it will NOT LOP.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:07 pm

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Kaperoni did NOT make that statement at the beginning of the post, that was added. The article appears on his site as do many others and as far as I know, he has always believed it will NOT LOP.

You are correct... Kaperoni and Bear both say they have proof that it won't Redenominate, but have been asked many times to share their proof to put the argument to rest once and for all and more importantly to set everyone's mind at ease, yet they refuse to show it...

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:15 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:18 pm

poo and more poo

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:45 pm


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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:47 pm

lol! lol! OMG!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:54 pm

i cannot believe Kaperoni keeps making silly and incorrect statements , he has always been WRONG , how do i know ,because nearly all the other gurus have told me nearly every day( for several months) that this is going to pop any minute, and they have always been RIGHT ,oh wait , even they have been wrong ,every day . who is right and who is wrong we will have to wait and see ,but as yet NO ONE has been RIGHT
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:04 pm

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prosetian wrote:
Kaperoni did NOT make that statement at the beginning of the post, that was added. The article appears on his site as do many others and as far as I know, he has always believed it will NOT LOP.

You are correct... Kaperoni and Bear both say they have proof that it won't Redenominate, but have been asked many times to share their proof to put the argument to rest once and for all and more importantly to set everyone's mind at ease, yet they refuse to show it...

CJ

Maybe someone is holding a gun to their head everytime someone asks that question....so they cannot respond lmao
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:12 pm

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i cannot believe Kaperoni keeps making silly and incorrect statements , he has always been WRONG , how do i know ,because nearly all the other gurus have told me nearly every day( for several months) that this is going to pop any minute, and they have always been RIGHT ,oh wait , even they have been wrong ,every day . who is right and who is wrong we will have to wait and see ,but as yet NO ONE has been RIGHT

"who is right and who is wrong we will have to wait and see ,"...


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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:13 pm

lol! lol! lol!
Kevin,WHERE do you get this stuff!

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:20 pm

i wrote a post last that stated i don not trust them and they might turn around and screw us i hope not. they need to get out of chap 7y we hold the keys for that i do not trust obama but i pray he tells iraq no decent rv no getting out. also do you remember just before its supposed to happen many neg things are going to come out i hope this is one
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:05 pm

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outback7 wrote:
KAPERONI IF YOU BELIEVE THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOP. BE HONEST CLOSE DOWN YOUR SIGHT AND RETURN ALL THE MONEY TO GOOD PEOPLE WHO HAVE PAID YOU TO SEND THEM A TEXT WHEN THIS RV'S. IF YOU DONT THEN YOU ARE DISHONEST.

Kaperoni did NOT make that statement at the beginning of the post, that was added. The article appears on his site as do many others and as far as I know, he has always believed it will NOT LOP.

You are right I have read that post again......Kap did not say it. I went on to his page and read his take on the lop, and he does not believe in a lop and proves it. My last post was a knee jerk reaction which I am sorry for.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:57 pm

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prosetian wrote:
Kaperoni did NOT make that statement at the beginning of the post, that was added. The article appears on his site as do many others and as far as I know, he has always believed it will NOT LOP.

You are correct... Kaperoni and Bear both say they have proof that it won't Redenominate, but have been asked many times to share their proof to put the argument to rest once and for all and more importantly to set everyone's mind at ease, yet they refuse to show it...

CJ

Maybe someone is holding a gun to their head everytime someone asks that question....so they cannot respond

Maybe one of those 3 letter agencies that some people seem to think would care one tiny bit about what is said on any of these sites, has told them not to comment. I heard that a black suv did drive by their houses once and ya never know for sure.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:51 pm

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i wrote a post last that stated i don not trust them and they might turn around and screw us i hope not. they need to get out of chap 7y we hold the keys for that i do not trust obama but i pray he tells iraq no decent rv no getting out. also do you remember just before its supposed to happen many neg things are going to come out i hope this is one

I hope so too Jayzze.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:10 pm

I also say that it will not lop, but have been crucified in the forum for mentioning it,so it will be what it be-Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:22 pm

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I also say that it will not lop, but have been crucified in the forum for mentioning it,so it will be what it be-Laughing

Noooooo!!!! No one cruicified you! I dont want you to think you were targeted. CJ raidernick and me were just saying that we cant go off of the 'intel' thats repeated from the gurus as fact vs what is being said in the news. Like when people say the kuwait 'rv' took 10 days to show up. So far thats just guru stuff and never been proven and that should be somethin verifiable. So anyone that repeats stuff like that, we tend to just ask for any proof or remind them of the facts that we CAN prove. Its nothing personal so please dont think that. Love ya!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:27 pm

Ok- I stand corrected- But to be honest-I do not think that it will lop-If it does, I believe that we are in trouble- JMHO-Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:34 pm

Someone posted on another board that awhile back, the CBI said they would use the 3 zero notes for business banking or something like that. In other words, they would be used by the bank, but not by the people.

If the previous CBI articles were true, then there won't be a LOP.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:37 pm

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Someone posted on another board that awhile back, the CBI said they would use the 3 zero notes for business banking or something like that. In other words, they would be used by the bank, but not by the people.

If the previous CBI articles were true, then there won't be a LOP.

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:37 pm

I heard that,too,and to be honest with you, I do not see a lop coming our way- That would be economic suicide for Iraq, and the U.S.-Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:40 pm

Punisher- Usually you are up to date on that type of thing- I'm surprised that you hadn't seen that- It was stated about 4 months ago- Maybe you just forgot-
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:46 pm

The biggest question in the LOP debate is who is lying. The "news" could as likely be misled, or lying to us as the gurus. There is no more of a guarantee that the press' sources are any more accurate than the one's providing info to the "gurus." All we can do is read all of the information and make our best guesses based upon what we read and our intuition. You may like it, or not, but that's the way it is.

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:49 pm

I never thought of it, or looked at it that way- Thankyou for that,Kevind53-{what was I thinking}?:shock:
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:03 pm

Dinarling is really a lopster


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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:17 pm

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Punisher- Usually you are up to date on that type of thing- I'm surprised that you hadn't seen that- It was stated about 4 months ago- Maybe you just forgot-

I must have missed it...because this is the first time I am seeing this.
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:30 pm

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The biggest question in the LOP debate is who is lying. The "news" could as likely be misled, or lying to us as the gurus. There is no more of a guarantee that the press' sources are any more accurate than the one's providing info to the "gurus." All we can do is read all of the information and make our best guesses based upon what we read and our intuition. You may like it, or not, but that's the way it is.

Kevin, I would agree with you 100% if I hadn't heard Dr. Shabibi talk about the the government passing the removal of the 000's to get the money supply down and to ease in banking transactions with my own ears. I've posted the video on here several times, but no one cares to listen to it... I know people refuse to accept truth when it isn't the truth they want!
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:38 pm

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Someone posted on another board that awhile back, the CBI said they would use the 3 zero notes for business banking or something like that. In other words, they would be used by the bank, but not by the people.

If the previous CBI articles were true, then there won't be a LOP.

Can you please dig up a link to that article and PM it to me? I've never seen that one. I would love to read it and add it to the collection. I've been reading and saving any article I could find from the CBI from the last year and a half and they all say Re-denomination and nothing about keeping the K note for private usage... Thanks in advance OkieFan

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:54 pm

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OkieFan wrote:
Someone posted on another board that awhile back, the CBI said they would use the 3 zero notes for business banking or something like that. In other words, they would be used by the bank, but not by the people.

If the previous CBI articles were true, then there won't be a LOP.

Can you please dig up a link to that article and PM it to me? I've never seen that one. I would love to read it and add it to the collection. I've been reading and saving any article I could find from the CBI from the last year and a half and they all say Re-denomination and nothing about keeping the K note for private usage... Thanks in advance OkieFan

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The only articles I remember being remotely close to something like that are the ones that were discussing a new 100,000 note or something like that. It was a while back....
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:00 pm

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The only articles I remember being remotely close to something like that are the ones that were discussing a new 100,000 note or something like that. It was a while back....

TRB, Is that the couple of articles that talked about a new 50,000 Dinar note?

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:04 pm

CJ actually I have listened too it, one of the things I noticed when he was speaking was that he seemed to be really struggling with finding the right words. I came away not at all sure that he actually said what he meant to there ... as I recall he was really wrestling for the right words there.

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:15 pm

My Hispanic workers struggle with the right English words all the time, heck I struggle with the right Spanish words half the time too. Also European English is different than here. I just took it as someone speaking at an event in their second or third language and making sure the said exactly what they wanted to say...

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:21 pm

I have considered that as well ... just another thing we won't know for sure until we are looking with hindsight.

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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:22 pm

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therealbutterfly wrote:
The only articles I remember being remotely close to something like that are the ones that were discussing a new 100,000 note or something like that. It was a while back....

TRB, Is that the couple of articles that talked about a new 50,000 Dinar note?

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yeah thats the one
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PostSubject: Re: Kaperoni....   Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:34 pm

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I have considered that as well ... just another thing we won't know for sure until we are looking with hindsight.

Very true Kevin... Hopefully we will see very soon... Thanks for being so open minded...

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