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Post by silkysand Sun Jan 08, 2012 9:30 pm

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As the Middle East roils in crisis when a US aircraft carrier entered a zone near the world's most important choke point for oil shipments, the Strait of Hormuz, also an offshore region that Iran threatened to close if the United States raises sanctions against the Islamic Republic , the deployment of thousands of US troops in Israel has raised speculations of an imminent war.

On December 20, the Jerusalem Post newspaper reported Lt.-Gen. Frank Gorenc, commander of the US's Third Air Force based in Germany, as saying that there will be a deployment of several thousand American soldiers in Israel.

An Egypt-based military expert, major general Jamal Mathloum, said that "there is a military strategic cooperation between the US and Israel since the 1980s and there is definitely mutual understanding," adding that the US troops deployment might not necessarily mean a direct signal of war, but could be read as Israel and US readiness in case of a conflict arising in the region.

"There is already a US radar station in southern Israel, and might as well contain from 500 to 700 American soldier operating there," Mathloum said.
But for Abdulaziz Sager, chairman and founder of the Gulf Research Center in Dubai, the deployment of US troops in Israel is "definitely to send a clear signal to Iran."

Sager said that there is a US-Israel defense agreement that makes defending the Jewish state an obligation to the United States. In addition to that, US
President Barack Obama said in his last AIPAC meeting that the United States does not rule out any option against Iran if it had to.

According to debka.com, an Israeli website that provides political and security analysis, about 9,000 US soldiers have already arrived in Israel.

But Mathloum said this figure remains insignificant of compared to the more than 100,000 American soldiers dispersed in 1,000 US bases worldwide.

Lt.-Gen. Gorenc's announcement came as he was visiting Israel to finalize plans for the upcoming drill, which is considered to be unprecedented in its size.

There will also be an establishment of US command posts in Israel and IDF command posts at EUCOM headquarters in Germany - with the ultimate goal of establishing joint task forces in the event of a large-scale conflict in the Middle East, the newspaper reported.

But according to Elia Henna, a Lebanon-based expert in military issues, the deployment of 9,000 US troops in Israel goes back to the US withdrawal from Iraq and to further the US presence in the region and not to leave the "Arab field" open to further Iranian influence.

Asked on why the United States did not increase its troops numbers in its military bases in the Arab Gulf, Henna said that both countries [Israel and United States.] Have far more compatible militaries and are bound with military agreements and that the United States has more freedom in Israel.

"Israel does not mind even if one million US soldiers to be deployed in the Jewish state," he added. Despite US-Israel furthering their combative cooperation in light of the crisis looming around Iran, the Islamic Republic remains unyielding.

On Sunday, head of Iran's Atomic Energy Organization Fereydoun, Abbasi Davani, reportedly said that Iran's underground uranium enrichment facility will go on stream soon.

Davani said that the Fordow nuclear enrichment plant will be operational in the near future and that around 20 percent, 3.5 percent and four percent enriched uranium can be produced at the site.

"There is no third party to verify about the site [Fordow] and truth about the announcement," said Sager, adding "they can say all they want to say but there is no confirmation or verification."

Asked about the nature of the attack against Iran if there will be one, Sager said there will be a surgical and not a complete one since Iran cannot afford to, but it will be leaving the Gulf Arab or the surrounding region of Iran in dire environmental consequence.

Sanctions and internal domestic change can potentially bring about a change in Iran's polices, he said.
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Post by DevaronDLH Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:22 pm

Israel has been itching for a war against Iran for many years... If they keep up the lies and the propaganda they will get their wish, but maybe it won;t be as straight forward or anywhere as easy as they think it will be.
If you read behind the scenes the story has a completely different take on it, for example Iran may be one of the 6 nations that are not part of the Rothchilds empire and intention to rule the world with their phony money.
Soon I expect the media to tell us another lie, that Iran has nuclear weapons, biologic weapons and various other deadly statements.... and the pity is, most of the people will believe it, just like they believed Geo Bush and the WMD's and the bay of Tonkin when we were told we were attacked, but now it is discovered we were Never attacked... The Pearl Harbor lie, and lies that stretch back as far as humans have walked on this Earth... Aren't you folks tired of the lies and the murders and the pillage and carnage... When will it stop.. and when will we stop it?
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Post by Wtex Sun Jan 08, 2012 10:32 pm

The Pearl Harbor lie??


Are U serious?

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Post by Azure Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:41 pm

DevaronDLH wrote:Israel has been itching for a war against Iran for many years... If they keep up the lies and the propaganda they will get their wish, but maybe it won;t be as straight forward or anywhere as easy as they think it will be.
If you read behind the scenes the story has a completely different take on it, for example Iran may be one of the 6 nations that are not part of the Rothchilds empire and intention to rule the world with their phony money.
Soon I expect the media to tell us another lie, that Iran has nuclear weapons, biologic weapons and various other deadly statements.... and the pity is, most of the people will believe it, just like they believed Geo Bush and the WMD's and the bay of Tonkin when we were told we were attacked, but now it is discovered we were Never attacked... The Pearl Harbor lie, and lies that stretch back as far as humans have walked on this Earth... Aren't you folks tired of the lies and the murders and the pillage and carnage... When will it stop.. and when will we stop it?

yes Iran does not have a central bank neither does N Korea, they got one in Libya now so you can see why we are going there.
but your wrong on the pearl harbor thing my father in law was there that day.
a friend of mine said that he read that if we go to war there will be no RV, do not know where he found that.
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Post by Kevind53 Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:43 pm

Wtex wrote:The Pearl Harbor lie??


Are U serious?

Umm you want to tell that to my uncles who were there?

Actually the deployment is a part of an anti-missile defense exercise that has been planned for a while. We also did a similar exercise in 2009. Oh by the way, the radar site mentioned? It's a special X-band anti missile system tied into the Israeli defense network and aimed at Iran ... it is expected to give them an extra 2 to3 minutes to respond in case someone over there decides to push the button.

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Post by Alchemist Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:40 am

I'll stand with you Devaron.

Victims of multigenerational lies and psyop:
Jews
Christians
Muslims
(depopulation and power/wealth transfers)

DevaronDLH wrote:Israel has been itching for a war against Iran for many years... If they keep up the lies and the propaganda they will get their wish, but maybe it won;t be as straight forward or anywhere as easy as they think it will be.
If you read behind the scenes the story has a completely different take on it, for example Iran may be one of the 6 nations that are not part of the Rothchilds empire and intention to rule the world with their phony money.
Soon I expect the media to tell us another lie, that Iran has nuclear weapons, biologic weapons and various other deadly statements.... and the pity is, most of the people will believe it, just like they believed Geo Bush and the WMD's and the bay of Tonkin when we were told we were attacked, but now it is discovered we were Never attacked... The Pearl Harbor lie, and lies that stretch back as far as humans have walked on this Earth... Aren't you folks tired of the lies and the murders and the pillage and carnage... When will it stop.. and when will we stop it?

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Post by Steve Raymond Mon Jan 09, 2012 2:25 am

God will not hold guiltless any who would cause harm to His people, to His land.

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Post by Alchemist Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:09 am

Steve Raymond wrote:God will not hold guiltless any who would cause harm to His people, to His land.

Which ones are not God's people? Which land is not God's land?

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Post by Alchemist Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:12 am

Sounds like God's wrath soon to be unleashed on the spoilers of this earth:
Banking cartel
Corporatocracy
Maniacal rulers in public and the shadows in the temples, synogoues and churches and halls of justice...

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Post by GoodGosh Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:41 am

Alchemist wrote:

Which ones are not God's people? Which land is not God's land?

Touche' Deployment of thousands of US troops in Israel, a start of war against Iran? 1499845164
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Post by DevaronDLH Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:09 am

Which ones are not God's people? Which land is not God's land?
How do God's people make opinions that say I am God's child but you are not? Or, I live in God's land, but you do not?
Excuse me, this is exactly the kind of nonsense that creates hate and eventually leads to wars.
God only created one species of human and we are, in fact, all members of that one family. My blue eyes and your brown eyes do not make us different, only individual.
I have learned from science that snowflakes are all individual but they are still snowflakes.
Reading the Bible you must have discovered that God created ALL... when did one part become greater or lessor then all of the other parts? Also, I hope we noticed that their is only ONE Earth planet.
One species of human, one land for them all to live on... sounds like God had it right from the beginning.


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Post by madaussie Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:12 am

is the conspiracy theory a disease and can it be cured by modern medicine or are those afflicted doomed for life?
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Post by DevaronDLH Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:20 am

I know it is difficult for most of us to accept that we have been lied to about so many important things, especially when and where our family members have been killed... I mean no offense against any of our national warriors and hero's but the truth is more ugly then most of us want to know, and may be willing to accept...
I off the following video clip and report for you to review... if you think it is a fake I will honor your thoughts and opinion:

SOURCES AND TRANSCRIPT: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=3588

As the US and Iranian governments escalate tensions in the already
volatile Straits of Hormuz, and China and Russia begin openly
questioning Washington's interference in their internal politics, the
world remains on a knife-edge of military tension. Far from being a
dispassionate observer of these developments, however, the media has in
fact been central to increasing those tensions and preparing the public
to expect a military confrontation. But as the online media rises to
displace the traditional forms by which the public forms its
understanding of the world, many are now beginning to see first hand how
the media lies the public into war.

Learn more about the media manipulations behind the beginning of war in this week's GRTV backgrounder

Faking It: How the Media Manipulates the World into War Video
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Post by Alchemist Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:43 am

madaussie wrote:is the conspiracy theory a disease and can it be cured by modern medicine or are those afflicted doomed for life?

I don't know, but with all the war drumming in the middle east, a U.S. defense budget twice that of all other countries combined, one tenth of which would feed the whole earth for a year, and the zealots killing in the name of gods, we all may be doomed for life.......

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Post by Steve Raymond Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:46 pm

DevaronDLH wrote:Israel has been itching for a war against Iran for many years... If they keep up the lies and the propaganda they will get their wish, but maybe it won;t be as straight forward or anywhere as easy as they think it will be.
If you read behind the scenes the story has a completely different take on it, for example Iran may be one of the 6 nations that are not part of the Rothchilds empire and intention to rule the world with their phony money.
Soon I expect the media to tell us another lie, that Iran has nuclear weapons, biologic weapons and various other deadly statements.... and the pity is, most of the people will believe it, just like they believed Geo Bush and the WMD's and the bay of Tonkin when we were told we were attacked, but now it is discovered we were Never attacked... The Pearl Harbor lie, and lies that stretch back as far as humans have walked on this Earth... Aren't you folks tired of the lies and the murders and the pillage and carnage... When will it stop.. and when will we stop it?

It will all stop when muslims quit attacking the Jews. In short, not until Christ returns to rule and reign in the millenial kingdom.

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Post by landcareunlimited Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:37 pm

Can a Mod step in and move this over to OOM2 please? This has NOTHING to do with the Dinar.

Also, DevaronDLH...send me a PM so we can exchange addresses. I would love to have a face to face "discussion" with you about your anti-American sentiments.
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Post by rdrobel Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:58 pm

DevaronDLH- Short and Sweet you need to make one visit to the middle east and quit reading Obama and Ron Paul and see for yourself who is the oppressed. What about Pearl Harbor being a lie??? Bay of Tonkin??? Are you anti-American or misinformed. I'm done. The Jews were Gods Chosen People. OMG I am outta here. 1) I lost relatives and friends of my family older generations of course, and there is no lie about Pearl. 2) I was in Vietnam as an officer, commissioned after graduation from Military School, what do you want to know about the corruption THAT IS THE TRUTH. As a member of the First Air Cav, I chased the NVA and Charlie into Cambodia and Laos. Yes that part is the truth. Fighting Global communism is a necessary evil. Unless you want to be called comrade the rest of your life. There is a lot of twisted history out there, being disseminated by the Progressives like chemtrails. Poison!!!
Our kids are learning it. But ask a vet and he will shed some true light on it for you. A grunt not an Air Force enlisted man, who pushed papers or worked on aircraft, but somebody that was shot at on a daily basis. Maybe you'll decide how necessary war is in some cases. As a country, running from confrontation as an isolationist, will get you dead. Letting complete idiots like the Iranian Theocracy have nukes which they certainly are developing not only in Iran but in Venezuela as well, makes them a little close for comfort for ME!! Ostriches may feel different. Do some more reading from someone who knows and not a zealot, give it an OPEN MIND!!! If I offend here, I apologize in advance, but your ideas scare the crap out of me. Like some Politicians I know.
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Post by rdrobel Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:59 pm

OOM2 is a great place for this. and I'm sorry I read it it ruined the night. I wanted info on dinar.
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Post by landcareunlimited Tue Jan 17, 2012 12:10 am

rdrobel-I will bookend your post in a symbolic gesture of getting your back...literally and figuratively.

As the son of a USAF fighter pilot that was shot down and suffers terribly to this day from injuries bravely sustained in battle, I was spared the honor and burden of serving his country, I will just say THANK YOU for YOUR service and resist expressing my true feelings for loud-mouthed anthiest keyboard tough guys of his ilk.

Again, the offer for a face to face "discussion" still stands DevaronDLH. I see you are in Sedona...I am in Phoenix. We are less than two hours away from each other. I will gladly meet you anywhere in Sedona for a pleasant "discussion/re-education".
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Post by Alchemist Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:00 am

I am locking this. But do feel free to come to 2. I have a great vid of a Jew speaking out against Israel!

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