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 UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag

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PostSubject: UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag   Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:33 pm

SPRINGFIELD, Ore. (AP) — Edward Zivica, a 70-year-old who served in the Navy in the 1960s, faces a hard choice come Veterans Day next week: He can obey the rules and remain in his apartment complex, or he can follow his tradition of hanging the American flag outside his place.

The managers at his subsidized housing project in Springfield, Ore., have given him notice he'll be evicted if he again violates the rules against putting anything on the exterior walls.

That notice came after the flag went up on Oct. 27 for Navy Day, one of several that Zivica marks by hanging it outside the community room near the main entrance. He'd gotten a letter from the management in June telling him to quit.

Zivica was in the Navy's Submarine Service from 1960 to 1967, the Eugene Register-Guard (http://bit.ly/sNKhiN) reported.

The flag, he said, was one the Army sent when his dad, a World War II veteran, died. Zivica says a brother also served, in Korea, as a Marine.

He told the paper he doesn't have many options for housing, so he would knuckle under and sign a compliance notice, which he called "a confession" and "an apology."

But he also said he finds it hard not to hang the flag on Veterans Day.

"It's one of the biggest days of the year for us," he said. "... I guess we'll see what happens."

The downtown apartment complex is managed by St. Vincent de Paul of Lane County, which opened it in 2009 with Zivica as one of the first tenants. CEO Terry McDonald said the action wasn't aimed at the American flag as such but rather at preventing a precedent that could lead to more-controversial flags or banners.

"If you're going to live in a situation where there's lots of other tenants, you need to follow the rules that are set up," McDonald told KVAL-TV, which first reported the story (http://bit.ly/vLRh9f).

After residents requested one, management has put up a flagpole. Zivica calls it "flimsy and cheesy-looking," plastic with no lanyard to hoist the flag or lower it to half-staff. The small flag, he said, has faded to orange after less than a year.
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PostSubject: Re: UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag   Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:56 pm

The USSA is here! Whatever happened to patriotism? Maybe we just might offend the Muslims or other ethnic groups, ya think???
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PostSubject: Re: UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag   Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:58 pm

The owners are communists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag   Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:59 pm

Jeez- That would b tough s#!* wouldn't it!
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PostSubject: Re: UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag   Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:23 pm

They giveth and they taketh away - illuminati

They build it up and they break it down - illuminati

All to keep you thoroughly confused and off balance and pissed off in your superficial life in one way or another in order to create dissension among the people to keep them divided in their views, so they do not become united in any way causing them to keep arguing, bickering and fighting, so you are not able to use your collective very valuable considerable energy charge to team up and fight against and overthrow the tyranny being perpetrated against you that is keeping you slaves, because they get you to discharge your very valuable considerable energy charge in the wrong direction outside of yourself, so you do not have that energy charge to use against those ones causing you the very problems in your empty life in the first place.

That is why they allow you to protest all you want, so you will expend all of your very valuable considerable energy charge being mad and angry complaining in order to steal your charge and distracting your attention far away from the actual source that is continually and intentionally causing the very problem you face in the first place. You don't understand what is happening in your artificial life and that keeps you a slave to tyranny always complaining never knowing what to do, because you have been misled for so long that you don't even know what is real and what is not.


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PostSubject: Re: UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag   Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:32 pm


UPDATE: Management Relents: Springfield Oregon Veteran Can Hang Flag
1:11 PM, Nov. 4, 2011 |
PATRIOTISM WINS!

Written by The Associated Press

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SPRINGFIELD, OR — A 70-year-old Navy veteran in Springfield will be allowed to hang the American flag outside his apartment on Veterans Day.


The management of the downtown apartment complex had threatened to evict Edward Zivica (zih-VEE-kuh) for repeatedly hanging the flag in a commons area, in violation of rules against hanging anything on exterior walls. But it has relented.


KVAL-TV (http://bit.ly/uRo0ij ) and the Register-Guard (http://bit.ly/vZrRge ) reported that the nonprofit St. Vincent de Paul of Lane County announced a deal today: Zivica gets to stay and can display the flag on designated days the two sides have agreed on.


The organization said in a statement it had gotten "a lot of attention" over the dispute.
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PostSubject: Re: UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag   Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:42 pm

get er done!
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PostSubject: Re: UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag   Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:46 pm

KAI -UPDATE: Management Relents: Springfield Oregon Veteran Can Hang Flag
1:11 PM, Nov. 4, 2011 | PATRIOTISM WINS!

UPDATE: One small step for man, one giant leap for the illuminati - Patriotism did not win anything - Any Patriotism was lost a very long time ago - you must face the facts or you can do nothing about it - you are simply kidding yourself. The illuminati thank you from the bottom of their blood thirsty ritualistic hearts for your blind obedience to be good and considerate polite slaves of their tyrannical system for not screaming to loud when they ask you to bend over and grab your ankles..
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PostSubject: Re: UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag   Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:50 pm

Well- Now they r getting it up the gravel road- I wonder how they're 'Lovin' it?
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PostSubject: Re: UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag   Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:54 pm

Great Update! Thx KAI:sunny:
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PostSubject: Re: UNREAl-Oregon veteran faces eviction if he hangs US flag   Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:55 pm

affraid
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The owners are communists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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